COVID-19 >>"True and Helpful" Covid Information Thread

[Anonymous]

I guess it is up to old Herman to get this thread back on track.



This omicron wave could be very different from previous waves.



Why Omicron case counts are no longer a 'true reflection' of the impact of COVID-19

Public health officials are now speaking openly about abandoning daily case counts and focusing instead on 'hospitalizations'

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Just before the new year, Nova Scotia's top doctor Robert Strang said that under Omicron, they would be paying closer attention to the "severity" of the wave rather than its raw numbers.



In Ontario, the province's Chief Medical Officer of Health Kieran Moore said last week he was keeping an eye on hospitalizations rather than case counts to gauge the severity of the Omicron wave.



This view was made even more explicit in KFL&A Public Health, the health region for the area surrounding Kingston, Ont. In a media briefing last week, the region's medical officer of health Dr. Piotr Oglaza said case counts would "no longer be a true reflection" of the impact of COVID-19.



"I believe that we are at the point with the wide spread in the community where it's the hospitalization or ICU admissions that are truly the key indicator of how significant the impact is," said Oglaza.



It's now been more than a month since the Omicron variant of COVID-19 was first identified in South Africa. On Tuesday, an official with the World Health Organization said they may be witnessing a " decoupling " between case rates and severe illness.





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In prior waves of COVID-19, a surge in cases was usually a reliable indicator that a corresponding surge of deaths and hospitalization would be coming within days.



But WHO Incident Manager Abdi Mahamud said that Omicron seemed to be bucking this trend mainly because of where it strikes.



"We are seeing more and more studies pointing out that Omicron is infecting the upper part of the body," said Mahamud. The result is that Omicron largely leaves patients with cold-like symptoms such as coughing and sore throats without yielding the severe pneumonia of prior variants.



In Canada, early data is indeed showing a virus with an unprecedented power to infect without yielding the rates of severe illness seen in prior waves.



This time last year, Quebec was seeing an average of 50 COVID-19 deaths every day. In all of Quebec's prior COVID-19 waves, case counts surged no higher than about 2,500 per day. Under Omicron, they've been higher than 3,000 per day since mid-December. On Tuesday, the province set a new record high of 14,494 , but reported a comparatively low 21 deaths.



In Ontario, the rate of new daily cases has been reaching unprecedented highs since before Christmas. Despite this, it has yielded roughly 100 more people in ICU as compared to conditions before the Omicron surge. As of Jan. 4, there were 263 adults in ICU due to COVID-19 as compared to 167 on Dec. 6 .



What's more, an increasingly number of these hospitalizations represent patients who just happen to be carriers of COVID-19 — rather than people who were admitted as a result of COVID-19 complications.



In a Dec. 30 briefing, Kieran Moore said that one Ontario hospital had estimated that up to 50 per cent of its COVID-19 patients were "incidental." That is, the patient was admitted for another condition and a routine test for COVID-19 happened to come up positive.

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Yes, death / case rate is dropping .... but due to sheer numbers, hospital cases are rising



Today  we got 2,500 "known cases - Your province Fash has 3,000  .. IHJ's 1,757 .. yours only 326





Hospitals rising but not out of control as of now .. although UK is rising a lot in that area (sheer volume of cases)



Canada 50,000 today & 59 deaths

[Anonymous]

Yes, death / case rate is dropping .... but due to sheer numbers, hospital cases are rising



Today  we got 2,500 "known cases - Your province Fash has 3,000  .. IHJ's 1,757 .. yours only 326





Hospitals rising but not out of control as of now .. although UK is rising a lot in that area (sheer volume of cases)



Canada 50,000 today & 59 deaths

That is a low death rate. That is welcome news.

[Blazor]

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What are you doing?

Expressing my humor at the situation  

[Blazor]

Was old Blazor's post true and helpful COVID information? If not, why is it posted here.

Dont even start my friend. She barges in other folks threads, and disrupts as well, no different returning the favor.



In fact, just last night, I called her out on a subject of a thread, that she was not even posting about in it. Wanna know what she said.... "Im not going anywhere". So guess what..... I aint either  ac_hithere

[Anonymous]

Here are Alberta's daily cases for the previous six days..



3,013 Cases on January 3

2,059 Cases on January 2

3,323 Cases on January 1

4,570 Cases on December 31

4,641 Cases on December 30

4,172 Cases on December 29



We broke a record last Thursday..



Our active cases are now 34,000 cases......they've never been higher.

[Anonymous]

After more than three weeks into the strictest lockdown this country has ever had cases are still rising here in the Netherlands although at a slower pace..



In past waves, after two weeks of lockdowns cases dropped dramatically..



Nearby Denmark enacted many restrictions shortly after the Netherlands and yesterday they had over 23,000 cases....with a population of about 5.8 million....a little more than BC..



It seems Omicron is so different from past variants.....methods we used to flatten the curve in the past are not effective against this variant..



We will be forced to change course.

[Frood]

They're talking about the newest new variant from Marseilles, France.... the IHU.



It's like Pro Wrestling Trading Cards now... "my Andre the Giant is totally going to kick Hulk Hogan's butt! Let's review their careers! Flip cards.... ANNNND GO!" lol

[Anonymous]

They're talking about the newest new variant from Marseilles, France.... the IHU.



It's like Pro Wrestling Trading Cards now... "my Andre the Giant is totally going to kick Hulk Hogan's butt! Let's review their careers! Flip cards.... ANNNND GO!" lol

I haven't heard about that one yet, but I haven't been viewing much English language media either..



I'll look it up.

[Anonymous]

DD mentioned this new variant, so I looked it up and found this.



As the world continues to struggle with the rapid spread of the omicron variant of the coronavirus and the still-lingering delta variant, scientists in France say they have discovered a new variant that contains multiple mutations.



Experts at the IHU Mediterranee Infection in Marseille said they had discovered the new variant in December in 12 patients living near Marseille, with the first patient testing positive after traveling to the central African nation of Cameroon.



The French scientists said they had identified 46 mutations in the new variant, dubbed B.1.640.2, that could make it more resistant to vaccines and more infectious than the original virus.



The results were posted on the online health sciences outlet MedRxiv, which publishes studies that have not been peer-reviewed or published in an academic journal. B.1.640.2 has neither been detected in other countries nor been labeled a "variant of concern" by the World Health Organization.



Meanwhile, a new study out of Denmark reveals omicron is better at avoiding the human immune system, even in people vaccinated against COVID-19. In a study of 12,000 households, researchers at the University of Copenhagen discovered that omicron was between 2.7 and 3.7 times more infectious than delta among vaccinated Danes.



The study, which has not been peer-reviewed, also found that unvaccinated individuals are more likely to transmit the coronavirus than those who have been fully vaccinated and received a booster shot. Against omicron, vaccine effectiveness was reduced to about 40% against symptoms and to 80% against severe disease, and booster shots improved those numbers to 86% against symptoms and 98% against severe disease.

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[Anonymous]

Against omicron, vaccine effectiveness was reduced to about 40% against symptoms and to 80% against severe disease, and booster shots improved those numbers to 86% against symptoms and 98% against severe disease.[/i]

https://www.voanews.com/a/french-scientists-discover-new-coronavirus-variant-researchers-say-omicron-easily-avoids-immune-system/6381096.html">https://www.voanews.com/a/french-scient ... 81096.html">https://www.voanews.com/a/french-scientists-discover-new-coronavirus-variant-researchers-say-omicron-easily-avoids-immune-system/6381096.html

It's scientific, not a meme and therefore fake.

[Anonymous]

Against omicron, vaccine effectiveness was reduced to about 40% against symptoms and to 80% against severe disease, and booster shots improved those numbers to 86% against symptoms and 98% against severe disease.[/i]

https://www.voanews.com/a/french-scientists-discover-new-coronavirus-variant-researchers-say-omicron-easily-avoids-immune-system/6381096.html">https://www.voanews.com/a/french-scient ... 81096.html">https://www.voanews.com/a/french-scientists-discover-new-coronavirus-variant-researchers-say-omicron-easily-avoids-immune-system/6381096.html

It's scientific, not a meme and therefore fake.

We already adressed this in another thread. All this does is provoke more of what most of us don't want to see on the main board.

[cc]

Against omicron, vaccine effectiveness was reduced to about 40% against symptoms and to 80% against severe disease, and booster shots improved those numbers to 86% against symptoms and 98% against severe disease.[/i]

https://www.voanews.com/a/french-scientists-discover-new-coronavirus-variant-researchers-say-omicron-easily-avoids-immune-system/6381096.html">https://www.voanews.com/a/french-scient ... 81096.html">https://www.voanews.com/a/french-scientists-discover-new-coronavirus-variant-researchers-say-omicron-easily-avoids-immune-system/6381096.html

It's scientific, not a meme and therefore fake.

We already adressed this in another thread. All this does is provoke more of what most of us don't want to see on the main board.

Rejected? for the childish crap and very strong  insults that we see here of late .. Just thinking out loud, but it hurts to see an adult site taken over and become the sand-pile for extremely nasty infantile  children to play in and in fact take over the direction and flavor of



It's not a difference of opinion now - it's a drastic change of site direction / decorum to down into the sewer ...

[Frood]

I'm behaving. You should join in.

[cc]

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