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Frood

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Quote from: Odinson post_id=375284 time=1597184848 user_id=136
It might be true.. It might not..



Russia is one of those countries that can develop something from scratch.





They might be more advanced in this sort of thing.


Any vaccine originating in Russia will be nothing more than watered down potato vodka and it will need to be administered rectally.



Jesus Christ people, ....Seriously?


Americans have a bizarre contempt for Russia.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

I watched a few prog talking heads on the BBC playing down how well plasma works. It has been used before and people need it. Authorize it here too.

Frood

German doctors taking their government to task:





https://fromrome.info/2020/08/24/1000-german-doctors-say-covid-19-is-100-a-scam/">https://fromrome.info/2020/08/24/1000-g ... 00-a-scam/">https://fromrome.info/2020/08/24/1000-german-doctors-say-covid-19-is-100-a-scam/
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=377446 time=1598333558 user_id=1676
German doctors taking their government to task:





https://fromrome.info/2020/08/24/1000-german-doctors-say-covid-19-is-100-a-scam/">https://fromrome.info/2020/08/24/1000-g ... 00-a-scam/">https://fromrome.info/2020/08/24/1000-german-doctors-say-covid-19-is-100-a-scam/

I think it's obvious the experts are not really experts on COVID..



We can see that from the contradictory advice they have given our elected leaders.

Anonymous

I don't know what to think of this.



Drop in Brazilian COVID-19 cases prompts herd immunity questions

Scientists question whether herd immunity could be reached at rates lower than 20%

https://www.foxnews.com/health/brazil-amazon-manaus-drop-in-coronavirus-cases-herd-immunity-questions">https://www.foxnews.com/health/brazil-a ... -questions">https://www.foxnews.com/health/brazil-amazon-manaus-drop-in-coronavirus-cases-herd-immunity-questions



n unexpectedly positive turn for Brazilian cities once plagued with the coronavirus pandemic is raising fresh questions about herd immunity.



A new report in The Washington Post described how the impoverished city of Manaus saw hospitalizations plummet even though it had never imposed a lockdown or taken the other drastic containment measures imposed in Asia and Europe. It's also testing far more residents than it once did.



Initially, medical experts believed that between 60% and 70% of the population needed to develop antibodies to reach collective immunity, but Manaus never got past 20%. And the Amazonian city of 2 million suffered three times as many deaths as normal in the spring.



They report that while stringent restrictions are effective, once the virus infects a critical mass, a resurgence in cases is unlikely.



While the concept of herd immunity has long been used to explain the purpose of mass vaccination campaigns, now the answer seems to be more complex.



Scientists have been studying the possibility that individual variations in vulnerability reduce the ratio of infection at which herd immunity may be achieved. Some, scrutinizing data from European cities, theorize that herd immunity could be reached at rates lower than 20%.



Many other cities around the globe that were once devastated by coronavirus have begun to reopen without second waves, with some speculating that collective immunity has been reached.



Harvard epidemiologists have hypothesized that parts of London and New York have already achieved "substantial immunity." The same is said by health officials in highly-dense areas like India's Mumbai, though the first recorded COVID-19 re-infection was just confirmed in Hong Kong.

cc

I fail to undertand the term.



In fact I find it offensive to common sense...  as so long as one person exists with virus (and there is not easy  access to vaccine), people unprotected will get hit



just a silly buzz word that means little in the real world
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

https://www.theepochtimes.com/university-of-alabama-records-over-500-ccp-virus-cases-in-less-than-a-week_3474956.html">Here's Concerning news - University of Alabama Records Over 500 CCP Virus Cases in Less Than a Week



The University of Alabama has reported 531 COVID-19 cases at its Tuscaloosa campus since classes resumed last week as the city's mayor announced bar closures to stem the spread of the potentially deadly bug.



The school published a new Chinese Communist Party (CCP) virus dashboard Monday, which showed that across the entire University of Alabama System (UAS)—including campuses in Birmingham and Huntsville—there were a total of 566 confirmed cases of the virus between students, faculty, and staff since Aug. 19.



"Over the past week, due to student behavior, we have seen a spike in the number of students who have sought re-testing because they became symptomatic or were exposed to a COVID-positive individual" said Dr. Selwyn Vickers, co-chair of the UAS Health and Safety Task Force, in a statement (pdf).



"That trend prompted the decision to take further steps to reduce the chance that the COVID- 19 virus will escalate dramatically," he added.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

I got this from Global News.



In an update Friday, Canada's chief public health officer, Dr. Theresa Tam, pointed to the pandemic as being a factor in an increase of drug-related overdoses and deaths.



"There are indications that the street drug supply is growing more unpredictable and toxic in some parts of the country, as previous supply chains have been disrupted by travel restrictions and border measures during COVID-19," said Tam during a press conference Friday.



"Public health measures designed to reduce the impact of COVID-19 may increase isolation, stress and anxiety and puts a strain on the supports for persons who use drugs."



Tam then pointed to a sharp increase of overdose deaths in British Columbia, which she said saw a 136 per cent increase over the number of over deaths recorded in July of last year.

cc

That's true ... then, it has been on the rapid increase here for some time now .. and potential drugies are extremely vulnerable to any change



Add Fentanyl from China and it becomes deadly
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Frood

Study linking COVID to heart damage debunked:



https://www.rt.com/op-ed/499357-science-covid-19-heart-damage/">https://www.rt.com/op-ed/499357-science ... rt-damage/">https://www.rt.com/op-ed/499357-science-covid-19-heart-damage/
Blahhhhhh...

cc

It ain't all Roses & Lollipops



Russian news I'll take with a grain, or rather a truckload of salt
^^



https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/what-we-know-about-how-covid-19-affects-the-heart-even-after-the-virus-is-gone-1.5089112">What we know about how COVID-19 affects the heart, even after the virus is gone



TORONTO -- A Canadian doctor is urging that COVID-19 patients be monitored and tracked long after the novel coronavirus leaves their bodies, as evidence mounts that the virus can cause long-lasting heart damage.



A study published in late July found that, of 100 adults in Germany who had recently recovered from COVID-19, 60 showed signs of ongoing heart inflammation. MRI scans picked up other cardiac issues in another 18 recovered patients.



The patients who were studied ranged in age from 45 to 53. Although one-third of the patients were hospitalized, none were deemed to have had severe COVID-19 symptoms.



"What we might be seeing here is a widespread prevalence of heart disease in patients with COVID-19," Dr. Gavin Oudit, a professor of medicine at the University of Alberta and an expert on heart failure, said Wednesday on CTV's Your Morning.





It isn't just the heart that can show lasting effects after COVID-19 infection, though.



This, Oudit said, is because of how coronaviruses such as SARS-CoV-2 attach themselves to a protein known as angiotensin-converting enzyme 2, or ACE2, which Oudit describes as a "very important enzyme in the body that has unfortunately been hijacked by [SARS-CoV-2] and is now being used as its receptor."



Although ACE2 is strongly associated with the heart, it is present in many organs.



"It's in the lungs; it's in the gut; it's in the cardiovascular system; it's in the kidneys; it's in the central nervous system – which is why COVID-19 patients do so poorly when they get very sick. It really is a multisystemic disease,"
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/schools-private-pandemic-pods-could-be-held-liable-for-covid-19-outbreaks-legal-experts-say-1.5087564">Schools, private 'pandemic pods' could be held liable for COVID-19 outbreaks, legal experts say



TORONTO -- As parents and students grapple with the risk of COVID-19, legal experts warn that schools and those operating private at-home 'pandemic pods' could be held liable in the event of an outbreak.



Experts say it's a complex issue compounded by the fact that neither the federal nor provincial governments have given school boards immunity from legal action in the event that a student contracts COVID-19 on school property.



Toronto-based personal injury lawyer Jasmine Daya says that if a child contracts the virus at school and spreads it to vulnerable family members who then experience loss of income or complications from the disease, the school or school board may be held liable.



However, she notes that a claim would likely only be successful if it could be proven that the school acted negligently.

[ Win or lose, that sounds like a lot of court action and cost to me]





...... Some schools and private education institutions have also considered requiring parents to sign a waiver indemnifying the school from liability. But experts say there is no guarantee it would stop a parent from pursuing a claim citing negligence or a related offence on the part of the school.



"Just like when we send our children to extra-curricular activities, you have to sign away the right to sue if there is negligence, it doesn't always mean that waiver is enforceable," said Daya.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=378622 time=1599074836 user_id=88
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/schools-private-pandemic-pods-could-be-held-liable-for-covid-19-outbreaks-legal-experts-say-1.5087564">Schools, private 'pandemic pods' could be held liable for COVID-19 outbreaks, legal experts say



TORONTO -- As parents and students grapple with the risk of COVID-19, legal experts warn that schools and those operating private at-home 'pandemic pods' could be held liable in the event of an outbreak.



Experts say it's a complex issue compounded by the fact that neither the federal nor provincial governments have given school boards immunity from legal action in the event that a student contracts COVID-19 on school property.



Toronto-based personal injury lawyer Jasmine Daya says that if a child contracts the virus at school and spreads it to vulnerable family members who then experience loss of income or complications from the disease, the school or school board may be held liable.



However, she notes that a claim would likely only be successful if it could be proven that the school acted negligently.

[ Win or lose, that sounds like a lot of court action and cost to me]





...... Some schools and private education institutions have also considered requiring parents to sign a waiver indemnifying the school from liability. But experts say there is no guarantee it would stop a parent from pursuing a claim citing negligence or a related offence on the part of the school.



"Just like when we send our children to extra-curricular activities, you have to sign away the right to sue if there is negligence, it doesn't always mean that waiver is enforceable," said Daya.

I want kids back in school, but I worry about legal repercussions if some students or teachers get the virus.

cc

With this insidious and not much known about  beast, everything is a problem turning us upside-down in so many ways
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=378635 time=1599077519 user_id=88
With this insidious beast, everything is a problem turning us upside-down in so many ways

Especially when you add scumbag lawyers into the mix.