Obama And Dems Are As Responsible For Government Shutdown

[Romero]

I didn´t mean that.

I sometimes cannot send a reply. A new page comes up from memebee and it says not found.

I dunno! I haven't seen any problems myself recently but it has happened from time to time.

[Odinson]

I didn´t mean that.

I sometimes cannot send a reply. A new page comes up from memebee and it says not found.

I dunno! I haven't seen any problems myself recently but it has happened from time to time.

I see.

[Anonymous]

I am apolitical, but the shutdown if the federal government came up at my women's bible study group..



We prayed the president and the congress would reach some sort of compromise.

[Renee]

Explain this also - It and 100s like it back up Loch's thread as to how this tit operates



Amber Alert Taken Down, But Michelle's "Let's Move" Still Up



Former Amber Alert - http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/unavailable/">http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/unavailable/



But the bitch's site is up http://www.letsmove.gov/">http://www.letsmove.gov/ ................. fkkkkkkkk -



In a White House of skewed priorities, who in their right mind could possibly think that helping to save missing children was 'less essential"?

A lot of .gov web sites are still up. Obama and the Democrats can't pick and choose which web sites, departments and services will keep running, or which workers will be furloughed. Though both parties have agreed to recall 400,000 Defense Department workers as they'll be paid retroactively once the government reopens.



Obama and the Democrats certainly didn't choose to shut down the Department of Justice's Amber Alert web site.



A lot of damage is being done. Hundreds of thousands of families are suffering and tens of thousands of children are suffering. Boehner can end this nonsense with a vote tomorrow!

Bullshit, the Dems own this mess. The House has sent them a budget that funds the government completely and the senate dems rejected out of hand BECAUSE it didn't fund Obamacare. Obama and Reid want everything they ask for before they will negotiate the debt clg. This has been their demanding unethical tantrum throwing mode of operation since Obama's first term.



"The Senate chose not to vote to authorize that money to be spent, because it did not include money for Obamacare. Senate majority leader Harry Reid says that he wants a "clean" bill from the House of Representatives, and some in the media keep repeating the word "clean" like a mantra. But what is unclean about not giving Harry Reid everything he wants?



If Senator Reid and President Obama refuse to accept the money required to run the government, because it leaves out the money they want to run Obamacare, that is their right. But that is also their responsibility.



You cannot blame other people for not giving you everything you want. And it is a fraud to blame them when you refuse to use the money they did vote for, even when it is ample to pay for everything else in the government."



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If Senator Reid and President Obama refuse to accept the money required to run the government, because it leaves out the money they want to run Obamacare, that is their right. But that is also their responsibility.





You cannot blame other people for not giving you everything you want. And it is a fraud to blame them when you refuse to use the money they did vote for, even when it is ample to pay for everything else in the government."

Exactly



Sorry Querky. Just because the MSM also beats you drum doesn't make it correct. They are a part of the team too

[Renee]

If Senator Reid and President Obama refuse to accept the money required to run the government, because it leaves out the money they want to run Obamacare, that is their right. But that is also their responsibility.





You cannot blame other people for not giving you everything you want. And it is a fraud to blame them when you refuse to use the money they did vote for, even when it is ample to pay for everything else in the government."

Exactly

A lot of people on the left will try and used the excuse that you cannot legislate by appropriation but they neglect to admit that historically the democrats in the house have done just that at least a dozen times in the past century. Tip O'Neal speaker of the democratically controlled house under Reagan presided over budgetary stalemates similar to this 12 times. Although the reasons and severity  might be different this time, it doesn't change the fact that this isn't the first time one party has tried to hold the other hostage to an ideological principle.



"The U.S. government was shut down 12 times when O'Neill was speaker and Ronald Reagan was president? We didn't remember that."



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Obama Regime Turns AMBER Alert Website Back On After Outcry...Oh My Oh My. He tried too hard on that one and rightly got bit, eh?



Nice try to make it appear his opponents are evil when it is he that is evil .... picking things that will outrage and then trying to say he was not offered any money to keep the govt going



Now the debt ceiling approached. That should be real fun as El Dictator demands everything he wants

[Odinson]

I hope that fake ass brownie topples from his crown... Thank you american females whom cunts drooling with pussy juice voted for that bastard to the lead just based on his colour!!!



You women/liberals are so afraid of racism that you even think that using a condom during sex with a black man is racism (When you ask a black man to wear a condom is racism because the stereotype is that they all have HIV or some kind of STD).

[Romero]

Bullshit, the Dems own this mess. The House has sent them a budget that funds the government completely and the senate dems rejected out of hand BECAUSE it didn't fund Obamacare. Obama and Reid want everything they ask for before they will negotiate the debt clg. This has been their demanding unethical tantrum throwing mode of operation since Obama's first term.

  You have no idea what's going on!

One of the great ironies of the impending government shutdown is that most Obamacare funding, the issue at the heart of the battle, won't be affected by the spending freeze. The funding for the Affordable Care Act is a permanent appropriation — meaning it was approved in a prior session of Congress (in 2010, when the act was passed) and doesn't have to be approved again.



http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/09/how-government-shutdown-will-affect-obamacare-launch/70021/">//http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/09/how-government-shutdown-will-affect-obamacare-launch/70021/

Have you not noticed that Obamacare is up and running even though the Republicans voted against the Continuing Resolution? Did you not know that the Republicans demanded a one year delay of Obamacare though it's already been funded?



Obamacare is the law. It was passed by the House and Senate and ruled constitutional by the right-leaning Supreme Court. Your extremist Tea Party friends are all pissy about it and throwing a tantrum.



And now the Republicans are falling apart. Why do you think so many Republicans are saying their own party is being ridiculous?

In an interview with Fox News on Sunday, Rep. Peter King (R) bucked Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and his party's standard talking points and told host Chris Wallace that Republicans "are the ones who shut down the government."



"I'm talking basically about Ted Cruz, who was saying if we [voted in the House to defund] Obamacare, he could manage to both keep the government open and defund Obamacare," King explained. "The fact is, it was done in the House and the government is now closed and Obamacare is going forward. This was a strategy that never could work. It was almost sort of a nullification, to say we're going to shut down the government if we don't defund a law that we don't like."



"If we want to defund something, we should repeal it," he continued. "And do it the same way the president got it signed: elect Republicans to both Houses of Congress, repeal it and then have a Republican president sign it. This was a strategy doomed to failure."



As for the Republicans who were blaming the Democrats and the president for shutting down the government, King said that he just wasn't buying into that argument.



"We are the ones who did shut the government down," he insisted. "You don't take the dramatic step of shutting down the government unless you have a real strategy."



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[Odinson]

I remember those Obama panties and tops on those american airheads. Voting for coloured! Never mind his ability to lead as long he is coloured. The first coloured president in USA history!



Man, you people are fucked up...

[Romero]

You're the one saying they voted for Obama because he's "coloured".



I suppose it's only a coincidence that you just so happen to hate black males.

[Odinson]

You're the one saying they voted for Obama because he's "coloured".



I suppose it's only a coincidence that you just so happen to hate black males.

Might come as a suprise to you but I would have voted for Obama 5years ago.



Now I know that he is but a sinister character. Nice maneuver from the democrats to put a coloured man in the presidential election in these politically correct time. So politically correct that it is racism to demand the use of protection.



It was such a big deal when a coloured got the seat... People forgot that he is gonna have the launch codes of the entire USA nuclear-arsenal and he will be the most powerful man on the planet.

[Romero]

You would have voted for him but voting for him was politically correct and racist?

[Odinson]

You would have voted for him but voting for him was politically correct and racist?

My vote would have been bare and simple. The oil-price started to go through the roof after Bush attacked middle-east.



No colour just regime change. And the competition was a grandpa anyways.



I´m not the most PC person as you have probably witnessed. ;)

[Renee]

Bullshit, the Dems own this mess. The House has sent them a budget that funds the government completely and the senate dems rejected out of hand BECAUSE it didn't fund Obamacare. Obama and Reid want everything they ask for before they will negotiate the debt clg. This has been their demanding unethical tantrum throwing mode of operation since Obama's first term.

  You have no idea what's going on!

One of the great ironies of the impending government shutdown is that most Obamacare funding, the issue at the heart of the battle, won't be affected by the spending freeze. The funding for the Affordable Care Act is a permanent appropriation — meaning it was approved in a prior session of Congress (in 2010, when the act was passed) and doesn't have to be approved again.



http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/09/how-government-shutdown-will-affect-obamacare-launch/70021/">//http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/09/how-government-shutdown-will-affect-obamacare-launch/70021/

Have you not noticed that Obamacare is up and running even though the Republicans voted against the Continuing Resolution? Did you not know that the Republicans demanded a one year delay of Obamacare though it's already been funded?



Obamacare is the law. It was passed by the House and Senate and ruled constitutional by the right-leaning Supreme Court. Your extremist Tea Party friends are all pissy about it and throwing a tantrum.



And now the Republicans are falling apart. Why do you think so many Republicans are saying their own party is being ridiculous?

In an interview with Fox News on Sunday, Rep. Peter King (R) bucked Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and his party's standard talking points and told host Chris Wallace that Republicans "are the ones who shut down the government."



"I'm talking basically about Ted Cruz, who was saying if we [voted in the House to defund] Obamacare, he could manage to both keep the government open and defund Obamacare," King explained. "The fact is, it was done in the House and the government is now closed and Obamacare is going forward. This was a strategy that never could work. It was almost sort of a nullification, to say we're going to shut down the government if we don't defund a law that we don't like."



"If we want to defund something, we should repeal it," he continued. "And do it the same way the president got it signed: elect Republicans to both Houses of Congress, repeal it and then have a Republican president sign it. This was a strategy doomed to failure."



As for the Republicans who were blaming the Democrats and the president for shutting down the government, King said that he just wasn't buying into that argument.



"We are the ones who did shut the government down," he insisted. "You don't take the dramatic step of shutting down the government unless you have a real strategy."



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You are such a dumbass. You have no clue how this works, do you?

 

The AHA may be a law but most of its funding comes from new taxes and cuts in Medicare and Medicaid spending. That is what is at stake here, dumbass. Defunding Obamacare forces the Dems to discuss how the AHA will be funded. Just because something is law it doesn't mean it is automatically funded. I don't know how it works in Canada and I don't care but in the US ONLY the House of Representatives has the legal right to appropriate funds for the budget. Since the funding for Obamacare is coming from new taxes that haven't even been collected yet and cuts to existing programs, implementing the money raised from those cuts and taxes are still a matter of debate. This is something your lying prog propaganda websites don't what anyone to know and you are so clueless that you think the huff and puff and politico only tell the truth. You are nothing but a useful idiot but not really all that useful because despite your clueless cut and paste idiocy you don't even have a horse in this race.

 

"Untouchable. That's the treatment being given to the $23.6 billion being spent right now to implement Obamacare."



"This $23.6 billion is part of the $105.5 billion appropriated by the last Congress to fund Obamacare. The remainder (Think of it as post-dated checks for the other $81.9 billion.) automatically becomes available between now and FY2019."



"The House has constitutional authority to package legislation however it wishes."



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Follow the link I provided; read and learn something for a change because you really have NO clue how the US government works and how it funds federal programs. All you know is what you read in your leftwing-nut propaganda spin sites. So stop arguing what doesn't concern you and of which you have no clue.