We achieved our goal with the lockdowns

[Anonymous]

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[Vancouver]

People are going to ignore government rules anyway..



People are social creatures and young people don't care what rules the government makes about what they do in their own homes..



Oh, and Alberta is testing far more people than BC....your real rate of infection is far higher than what your government says it is.

That's debatable.



Once we open up it will be a celebration of life in the most glorious way.

[Anonymous]

You destroyed your economy, you cancelled surgeries causing deaths and you added massive amounts of debt. History will decide if these lock down were effective or a disaster. But, let's not pretend they don't serious consequences.

Sacrifice for the greater good. They did not die in vein. In time we will see.

The curve is flat enough for fuck sakes. We never overwhelmed our hospitals like what was predicted. That was the reason for these idiotic lock downs.



It's a virus with no vaccine. A second wave is coming and we still haven't built up herd immunity among healthy people. All we are doing with continued lock downs is causing unnecessary hardship. Not to mention killing people by cancelling surgeries.

[Vancouver]

It's a virus with no vaccine. A second wave is coming and we still haven't built up herd immunity among healthy people. All we are doing with continued lock downs is causing unnecessary hardship. Not to mention killing people by cancelling surgeries.

The virus is just a lie. We are safe. Soon I will be going to the bar with friends and have an iced cold root beer, do some fist pumps, and laugh at people who are still wearing face mask.

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[Anonymous]

The coronavirus isn't a lie, but we are being lied to about lock downs.... they cause death.



Ontario's Financial Accountability Office (FAO) released a report estimating that the province has so far canceled or delayed as many as 52,700 hospital procedures and that the number increases by 12,200 every week.



How high does the number climb if you include projections for all deaths caused by the postponement of the treatment of all serious ailments in every province? How high does it get if you go even further and include the number of suicides and heart attacks related to the economic and social pressures of the lockdown?



If the number of deaths that occur as a result of the lockdowns comes anywhere close to matching the number of direct COVID-19 deaths, doesn't that tell us that the lockdowns themselves are a serious harm to public health?



But that FAO report appears to have answered that question. They found that, as of April 23, there were 9,345 empty acute-care beds and 2,191 empty critical care beds across Ontario, which is Canada's second hardest hit province.



We were originally told that the point of the lockdown was to guarantee we don't overwhelm the health care system. We haven't.



So what's the hold up on safely re-opening the Canadian economy? The secondary harms are getting worse by the day.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-the-secondary-harms-caused-by-the-lockdown-get-worse-every-day">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... -every-day">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-the-secondary-harms-caused-by-the-lockdown-get-worse-every-day



Will we die of hunger?': how Covid-19 lockdowns imperil street children

For millions of young people, coronavirus restrictions have made access to food, water and shelter even more precarious

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/apr/15/will-we-die-of-hunger-how-covid-19-lockdowns-imperil-street-children">https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... t-children">https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/apr/15/will-we-die-of-hunger-how-covid-19-lockdowns-imperil-street-children



With farmers forced into isolation, people are facing hunger in the Philippines, Thailand, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Myanmar, said Shalmali Gutal, who runs a non-governmental organization in Asia that works with the Canadian Catholic Organization for Development and Peace.



The UN agency predicts that up to 265 million people face "acute food insecurity" as COVID-19 lock downs ramp up in poor countries south of the equator.

https://grandinmedia.ca/aid-groups-warn-covid-lockdown-fueling-famine/">https://grandinmedia.ca/aid-groups-warn ... ng-famine/">https://grandinmedia.ca/aid-groups-warn-covid-lockdown-fueling-famine/

[Anonymous]

It's a virus with no vaccine. A second wave is coming and we still haven't built up herd immunity among healthy people. All we are doing with continued lock downs is causing unnecessary hardship. Not to mention killing people by cancelling surgeries.

The virus is just a lie. We are safe. Soon I will be going to the bar with friends and have an iced cold root beer, do some fist pumps, and laugh at people who are still wearing face mask.

That isn't a response to my post. It's a deflection.



How many millions of people around the world will die from starvation, cancelled surgeries, untreated illnesses, and suicide because healthy, but paranoid 'men' like you are afraid to get a week of dry cough. Poverty kills far more people than viruses do.

[Anonymous]

Millions of dead kids due to these insane lock downs. I suppose Teenie Weenie thinks that's all a lie or he just doesn't give a fuck.

Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths

'Indiscriminate lockdowns' are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality



According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic.



The modelling, by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Unicef, found that child mortality rates could rise by as much as 45 per cent due to coronavirus-related disruptions, while maternal deaths could increase by almost 39 per cent.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... edicts-12/">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/

[Anonymous]

Millions of dead kids due to these insane lock downs. I suppose Teenie Weenie thinks that's all a lie or he just doesn't give a fuck.

Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths

'Indiscriminate lockdowns' are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality



According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic.



The modelling, by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Unicef, found that child mortality rates could rise by as much as 45 per cent due to coronavirus-related disruptions, while maternal deaths could increase by almost 39 per cent.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... edicts-12/">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/

He has about a 99.7 per cent chance of making a full recovery if he caught the coronavirus. Cancelling cancer treatments or cardiac surgery means death.

[Oak]

Millions of dead kids due to these insane lock downs. I suppose Teenie Weenie thinks that's all a lie or he just doesn't give a fuck.

Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths

'Indiscriminate lockdowns' are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality



According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic.



The modelling, by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Unicef, found that child mortality rates could rise by as much as 45 per cent due to coronavirus-related disruptions, while maternal deaths could increase by almost 39 per cent.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... edicts-12/">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/unicef-warns-lockdown-could-kill-covid-19-model-predicts-12/

Since when do you believe "lefty globalist" sources?

[Anonymous]

Even globalists can tell the truth once in a while.

[Anonymous]

Research shows that joblessness, poverty, and isolation kill large numbers of people in every country in the world.

https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/124/3/1265/1905153?redirectedFrom=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-ab ... m=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/124/3/1265/1905153?redirectedFrom=fulltext

[Gaon]

Research shows that joblessness, poverty, and isolation kill large numbers of people in every country in the world.

https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/124/3/1265/1905153?redirectedFrom=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-ab ... m=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/124/3/1265/1905153?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Of course. Did countries think they could destroy people's, and turn hospitals into coughing factories without consequences.

[Anonymous]

You don't need to be a scientist to know that when you make people poor, death rates rise. You don't need to be a doctor to know when surgeries and treatments are postponed, people die. You don't need to be an economist to know that when you stop exporting agricultural products to developing countries millions of people die. All of that so we can protect healthy people from getting a 10 day dry cough.

[Anonymous]

As the economic and health costs of these idiotic lock downs continue to rise, a growing chorus of health experts are saying enough is enough.

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been "shifting the goalposts" in justifying the lockdowns over COVID-19, while portraying as "selfish" any hopes to reopen an increasingly damaged economy, a coalition of health experts and business executives say.



The Macdonald-Laurier Institute released the letter, dated May 14 and co-signed by several  business and health leaders, which said "the Liberal government has presented social distancing measures as a stark choice — either selflessly shut down the economy to save lives or selfishly worry about the economy and condemn thousands to a vicious illness."



But that approach oversimplifies the decision facing governments, and "is being pursued at an almost incalculably large cost to the well-being of Canadians," according to the letter, which was co-signed by 24 health professionals and business executives.



"It's becoming clearer and clearer that the fear we experienced at the beginning, when we knew so little about the virus, is exaggerated," said Brian Lee Crowley, managing director of MLI. "We can rein that back now."



But the letter stresses that economic considerations should not merely be dismissed as callous, particularly in the face of evidence suggesting that the economic shock has taken a heavy toll on people's mental and physical health, not to mention a rise in domestic abuse and other forms of violence.



Further complicating the issue, the letter says, thresholds for a return to normal continue to shift. Ottawa has declined to endorse the re-opening of the economy even as hospitals remain well below capacity — the metric that was initially used to justify the restrictions.



"The rationale for the lockdown seems to have morphed subtly from managing the outbreak by 'flattening the curve' to preventing the illness from infecting Canadians at all, pushing the timeline for a return to some economic activity into the summer and a return to 'normal' a year or more into the distance," the letter said.



Dr. Neil Rau, an infectious diseases specialist and medical microbiologist in Oakville, Ont., said there is a "growing chorus" of medical professionals beginning to question strict lockdowns that have carried on for months.



"More people are taking the view that the risk-benefit calculation here, where you avert the risk of transmission in return for suppressing the economy, that it's not a worthwhile sacrifice," said Rau, who was not a signatory to the letter

https://nationalpost.com/news/business-and-health-leaders-accuse-trudeau-of-shifting-the-goalposts-for-reopening-economy">https://nationalpost.com/news/business- ... ng-economy">https://nationalpost.com/news/business-and-health-leaders-accuse-trudeau-of-shifting-the-goalposts-for-reopening-economy

[Anonymous]

As the economic and health costs of these idiotic lock downs continue to rise, a growing chorus of health experts are saying enough is enough.

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been "shifting the goalposts" in justifying the lockdowns over COVID-19, while portraying as "selfish" any hopes to reopen an increasingly damaged economy, a coalition of health experts and business executives say.



The Macdonald-Laurier Institute released the letter, dated May 14 and co-signed by several  business and health leaders, which said "the Liberal government has presented social distancing measures as a stark choice — either selflessly shut down the economy to save lives or selfishly worry about the economy and condemn thousands to a vicious illness."



But that approach oversimplifies the decision facing governments, and "is being pursued at an almost incalculably large cost to the well-being of Canadians," according to the letter, which was co-signed by 24 health professionals and business executives.



"It's becoming clearer and clearer that the fear we experienced at the beginning, when we knew so little about the virus, is exaggerated," said Brian Lee Crowley, managing director of MLI. "We can rein that back now."



But the letter stresses that economic considerations should not merely be dismissed as callous, particularly in the face of evidence suggesting that the economic shock has taken a heavy toll on people's mental and physical health, not to mention a rise in domestic abuse and other forms of violence.



Further complicating the issue, the letter says, thresholds for a return to normal continue to shift. Ottawa has declined to endorse the re-opening of the economy even as hospitals remain well below capacity — the metric that was initially used to justify the restrictions.



"The rationale for the lockdown seems to have morphed subtly from managing the outbreak by 'flattening the curve' to preventing the illness from infecting Canadians at all, pushing the timeline for a return to some economic activity into the summer and a return to 'normal' a year or more into the distance," the letter said.



Dr. Neil Rau, an infectious diseases specialist and medical microbiologist in Oakville, Ont., said there is a "growing chorus" of medical professionals beginning to question strict lockdowns that have carried on for months.



"More people are taking the view that the risk-benefit calculation here, where you avert the risk of transmission in return for suppressing the economy, that it's not a worthwhile sacrifice," said Rau, who was not a signatory to the letter

https://nationalpost.com/news/business-and-health-leaders-accuse-trudeau-of-shifting-the-goalposts-for-reopening-economy">https://nationalpost.com/news/business- ... ng-economy">https://nationalpost.com/news/business-and-health-leaders-accuse-trudeau-of-shifting-the-goalposts-for-reopening-economy

The reason for lock downs in Canada was to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed..



Since that never happened, there really isn't any reason to continue with all the unnecessary pain lock downs cause.