There Already is A Cure For COVID-19 And It's Not Lock Downs

[Anonymous]

Damn good to see ya man

good to see you too.... i was in the neighborhood so i figured i'd post....

Mighty kind of ya. I'd pour ya a drink, but since you dont touch alcohol anymore, it'll have to be sweet tea  

They call it iced tea here.

What we call iced tea is like a cross between cold tea with sugar and lemonade.

[deadskinmask]

Damn good to see ya man

good to see you too.... i was in the neighborhood so i figured i'd post....

Mighty kind of ya. I'd pour ya a drink, but since you dont touch alcohol anymore, it'll have to be sweet tea  

They call it iced tea here.

What we call iced tea is like a cross between cold tea with sugar and lemonade.

i think thats called an arnold palmer here.... half tea. half lemonade....

[Anonymous]

Damn good to see ya man

good to see you too.... i was in the neighborhood so i figured i'd post....

Mighty kind of ya. I'd pour ya a drink, but since you dont touch alcohol anymore, it'll have to be sweet tea  

They call it iced tea here.

What we call iced tea is like a cross between cold tea with sugar and lemonade.

i think thats called an arnold palmer here.... half tea. half lemonade....

Sort of. Iced tea here uses lemons or lemon flavour instead of lemonade.

[deadskinmask]

Sort of. Iced tea here uses lemons or lemon flavour instead of lemonade.

i have a friend that adds a scoop of powdered lemonade to his glass of tea.... personally, i think it would choke a goat.... but he seems to like it....

[Anonymous]

Sort of. Iced tea here uses lemons or lemon flavour instead of lemonade.

i have a friend that adds a scoop of powdered lemonade to his glass of tea.... personally, i think it would choke a goat.... but he seems to like it....

So, do I.....too much sugar.

[Anonymous]

'No Major Spike In Cases': NBC Nightly News Airs Segment On Georgia Reopening



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"When Georgia became one of the first states to reopen back in April many said it was too much too soon, predicting a new surge in coronavirus cases," said Diaz-Balart, introducing the segment. "Now, exactly four weeks later, Blayne Alexander reports on whether Georgia's gamble paid off."



"One month later, here's what Georgia looks like today," Alexander said, narrating a graph tracking Georgia's new coronavirus cases. "These are new cases before and after the state's reopening. Looking at a three-day average, there is no steady trend up or down. So far, no major spike in cases, as some predicted.



"These are new hospitalizations before and after," Alexander continued as the data in the graph on-screen shifted first to a breakdown of Georgia's new hospitalizations and then to new deaths. "Same with new deaths, though the number has fluctuated."



NBC medical contributor Dr. Vin Gupta called the signs "encouraging," noting that emergency rooms have not been "overwhelmed."

[Oak]

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[Gaon]

That data is completely misleading. When looking at excess death rates during the global pandemic, Sweden is middle of the pack.

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[Anonymous]

I haven't looked at the daily numbers, but I checked some numbers from Sweden and Belgium..



Belgium

11,23 million people

9388 deaths related to COVID-19



Sweden

10,23 million people

4266 deaths related to COVID-19



And much like Canada, Sweden's COVID related deaths have disproportionately happened in elder care..



As of April 15, more than half the deaths in Belgium were in elder care facilities too..



Taiwan never had a lock down either, but it has one of the lowest rates of deaths from COVID in the developed world..



But, Taiwan has fewer people in elder care facilities.

[Anonymous]

Cherry picked data from Sweden. One week spike of deaths primarily in senior's facilities doesn't make a case for anything.



The Chinese province of Taiwan and South Korea never had a full lock down. Neither place cancelled surgeries, deliberately a quarter of their population out of work and euthanized livestock.



I have maintained that quarantining healthy people is madness. Quarantines should be targeted at the vulnerable groups. I see the government of Alberta understands this now and will not return to locking down healthy people.

Premier Jason Kenney says Alberta has been among the world leaders in staunching the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic, but at a staggering financial cost the province cannot afford to repeat should there be a second wave.



Kenney says the key to prevention will be ramped up testing, border screening and a focus on the protecting the highest risk group — seniors and those with underlying conditions.



"The most important strategy as we move forward is building a wall of defence around the most vulnerable," Kenney told the house Wednesday in a speech updating his government's response to the pandemic.



He noted the province has made changes to provide personal protective equipment and financial aid to care facilities, along with new rules that prevent staff from working in more than one continuing care centre.



He said Alberta has just over three deaths per 100,000 people, compared with 10 in Germany, 30 in the United States, 39 in Sweden, 40 in France, 54 in Italy, 55 in the United Kingdom, 57 in Spain, and 81 in Belgium.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/jason-kenney-alberta-covid-19-cost-1.5588090">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton ... -1.5588090">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/jason-kenney-alberta-covid-19-cost-1.5588090

[Anonymous]

Cherry picked data from Sweden. One week spike of deaths primarily in senior's facilities doesn't make a case for anything.



The Chinese province of Taiwan and South Korea never had a full lock down. Neither place cancelled surgeries, deliberately a quarter of their population out of work and euthanized livestock.



I have maintained that quarantining healthy people is madness. Quarantines should be targeted at the vulnerable groups. I see the government of Alberta understands this now and will not return to locking down healthy people.

Premier Jason Kenney says Alberta has been among the world leaders in staunching the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic, but at a staggering financial cost the province cannot afford to repeat should there be a second wave.



Kenney says the key to prevention will be ramped up testing, border screening and a focus on the protecting the highest risk group — seniors and those with underlying conditions.



"The most important strategy as we move forward is building a wall of defence around the most vulnerable," Kenney told the house Wednesday in a speech updating his government's response to the pandemic.



He noted the province has made changes to provide personal protective equipment and financial aid to care facilities, along with new rules that prevent staff from working in more than one continuing care centre.



He said Alberta has just over three deaths per 100,000 people, compared with 10 in Germany, 30 in the United States, 39 in Sweden, 40 in France, 54 in Italy, 55 in the United Kingdom, 57 in Spain, and 81 in Belgium.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/jason-kenney-alberta-covid-19-cost-1.5588090">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton ... -1.5588090">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/jason-kenney-alberta-covid-19-cost-1.5588090

That is what we should have done instead of lock downs. But, even the epidemiologists didn't know what to do.

[Anonymous]

 But, even the epidemiologists didn't know what to do.

Fauci and Therea Tam are still flying blind.

[Anonymous]

Cherry picked data from Sweden. One week spike of deaths primarily in senior's facilities doesn't make a case for anything.



The Chinese province of Taiwan and South Korea never had a full lock down. Neither place cancelled surgeries, deliberately a quarter of their population out of work and euthanized livestock.



I have maintained that quarantining healthy people is madness. Quarantines should be targeted at the vulnerable groups. I see the government of Alberta understands this now and will not return to locking down healthy people.

Premier Jason Kenney says Alberta has been among the world leaders in staunching the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic, but at a staggering financial cost the province cannot afford to repeat should there be a second wave.



Kenney says the key to prevention will be ramped up testing, border screening and a focus on the protecting the highest risk group — seniors and those with underlying conditions.



"The most important strategy as we move forward is building a wall of defence around the most vulnerable," Kenney told the house Wednesday in a speech updating his government's response to the pandemic.



He noted the province has made changes to provide personal protective equipment and financial aid to care facilities, along with new rules that prevent staff from working in more than one continuing care centre.



He said Alberta has just over three deaths per 100,000 people, compared with 10 in Germany, 30 in the United States, 39 in Sweden, 40 in France, 54 in Italy, 55 in the United Kingdom, 57 in Spain, and 81 in Belgium.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/jason-kenney-alberta-covid-19-cost-1.5588090">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton ... -1.5588090">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/jason-kenney-alberta-covid-19-cost-1.5588090

That is what we should have done instead of lock downs. But, even the epidemiologists didn't know what to do.

Yes, I agree Herman..



Fewer people would have died and more people would be working.

[Anonymous]

This is an ed-op from Lorne Gunter which appeared in Sun News Media.



Weighing the risk of infection against the risk to our economy and to Albertans' mental well- being, Kenney said, "We cannot continue indefinitely to impair the social and economic ... health of the broader population, for potentially a year for an influenza that does not generally threaten life, apart from the most elderly, the immunocompromised and those with co-morbidities."



In other words, most Albertans won't get seriously ill from the virus. And even those who do are unlikely to die unless they are over 80 and in long-term care.



"For most Albertans," Kenney explained, "the risk of death from other pathogens, accidents and traffic fatalities is actually higher than it is for COVID."



In one of those moments in which you know Kenney is correct, but you wish he were a little more gentle, the premier explained the average age of death in Alberta from COVID is 83, while the average life expectancy is 82.



The premier proposed, correctly, that in the future — for instance, if there is a second wave — rather than close down our economy we should instead "move forward by building a wall of defence around the most vulnerable, seniors in particular."



The rest of us should take precautions, like endless handwashing and social distancing, but otherwise pretty much carry on as normal.



Large events might have to be cancelled again in a future outbreak. Gyms and rec centres may have to be locked down and sporting events, concerts, fairs, festivals and rodeos postponed.



But given that "an influenza of this nature" is not especially deadly for those under 80 and not in institutions, we can't afford another shutdown.

[Anonymous]

Targeted rather than total lock downs are as effective and without the same economic devastation.