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The long term cost of lock downs

Started by Anonymous, June 13, 2020, 02:51:31 PM

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From Graham Hicks of Sun News Media



On a global scale, the economic, social, and medical implications of the COVID pandemic are just beginning to take shape. The size of the mountain emerging out of the shadows is staggering.



At home, our Alberta public health authorities have done a fine job, minimizing the virus outbreak through group action.



But now we face the cost of the pandemic. Jobs are gone, many not to be recovered. Businesses are gone, life savings have been lost. Job opportunities will be a fraction of the past.



No mere mortal understands the financial wizardry of governments seeming to have endless credit. But, somehow, somewhere, the hundreds of billions borrowed to fight COVID have to be paid back.



The reality is simple. Debt servicing will skyrocket up to between 10 and 20 per cent of government spending, pushing education and health as the prime spenders of Canadian tax dollars.



Spending will be up; tax revenue will be down.



Higher taxation – European style for those still working – will be a reality. All of Trudeau's horses, all his financial tricks, cannot put this Humpty Dumpty back together again.



Western Canada faces the longterm slowdown of our natural resource income. Oil and gas prices remain in a six- year funk. Climate activists oppose fossil fuels, blind to their ever-improving environmental competitiveness.



Where is leadership in all this? Certainly not from our prime minister. Justin Trudeau seems devoid of substance. A leader supposedly of the whole country, yet seemingly indifferent to the fate of Canada's oil and gas industry during this pandemic. A leader who does not understand economics, and, worse still, does not care that he does not understand. A "leader" who seems more concerned wooing Chinese-influenced despots and dictators in a quest to secure a seat on the United Nations' Security Council.

Anonymous

It's looking more and more like the citizens of Canada are finally waking up to the fact that this lockdown right from the start was the most horribly disastrous decision ever made by our ineptocracy. It has caused far more financial damage, far more traumatic damage and likely far more deaths than COVID-19 ever could have.

Anonymous

Cancelled surgeries/treatments, alcoholism, mental illness, suicides, family breakdowns, bankruptcies, mass unemployment, mounting piles of public and private debt......a tremendous cost to pay when all of it was thrown out the window as soon as video surfaced of a police officer in Minneapolis killing someone.

Anonymous

The old lady and I are at a point in our lives we could survive a long lock down without too much financial damage. But, most people aint as well off as we are. My boy has some strong opinions on lock downs, and they aint positive.

Gaon

Lock downs are a disproportionate response to COVID-19.
The Russian Rock It

Anonymous

Quote from: Gaon post_id=366025 time=1592083349 user_id=3170
Lock downs are a disproportionate response to COVID-19.

Quarantines for healthy people is a bit extreme.

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=366005 time=1592074291 user_id=114
From Graham Hicks of Sun News Media



On a global scale, the economic, social, and medical implications of the COVID pandemic are just beginning to take shape. The size of the mountain emerging out of the shadows is staggering.



At home, our Alberta public health authorities have done a fine job, minimizing the virus outbreak through group action.



But now we face the cost of the pandemic. Jobs are gone, many not to be recovered. Businesses are gone, life savings have been lost. Job opportunities will be a fraction of the past.



No mere mortal understands the financial wizardry of governments seeming to have endless credit. But, somehow, somewhere, the hundreds of billions borrowed to fight COVID have to be paid back.



The reality is simple. Debt servicing will skyrocket up to between 10 and 20 per cent of government spending, pushing education and health as the prime spenders of Canadian tax dollars.



Spending will be up; tax revenue will be down.



Higher taxation – European style for those still working – will be a reality. All of Trudeau's horses, all his financial tricks, cannot put this Humpty Dumpty back together again.



Western Canada faces the longterm slowdown of our natural resource income. Oil and gas prices remain in a six- year funk. Climate activists oppose fossil fuels, blind to their ever-improving environmental competitiveness.



Where is leadership in all this? Certainly not from our prime minister. Justin Trudeau seems devoid of substance. A leader supposedly of the whole country, yet seemingly indifferent to the fate of Canada's oil and gas industry during this pandemic. A leader who does not understand economics, and, worse still, does not care that he does not understand. A "leader" who seems more concerned wooing Chinese-influenced despots and dictators in a quest to secure a seat on the United Nations' Security Council.

Canada is FUBAR. Immigrants can have it.

Berry Sweet

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=366056 time=1592091788 user_id=2015
Canada is FUBAR. Immigrants can have it.


I agree.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=366056 time=1592091788 user_id=2015
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=366005 time=1592074291 user_id=114
From Graham Hicks of Sun News Media



On a global scale, the economic, social, and medical implications of the COVID pandemic are just beginning to take shape. The size of the mountain emerging out of the shadows is staggering.



At home, our Alberta public health authorities have done a fine job, minimizing the virus outbreak through group action.



But now we face the cost of the pandemic. Jobs are gone, many not to be recovered. Businesses are gone, life savings have been lost. Job opportunities will be a fraction of the past.



No mere mortal understands the financial wizardry of governments seeming to have endless credit. But, somehow, somewhere, the hundreds of billions borrowed to fight COVID have to be paid back.



The reality is simple. Debt servicing will skyrocket up to between 10 and 20 per cent of government spending, pushing education and health as the prime spenders of Canadian tax dollars.



Spending will be up; tax revenue will be down.



Higher taxation – European style for those still working – will be a reality. All of Trudeau's horses, all his financial tricks, cannot put this Humpty Dumpty back together again.



Western Canada faces the longterm slowdown of our natural resource income. Oil and gas prices remain in a six- year funk. Climate activists oppose fossil fuels, blind to their ever-improving environmental competitiveness.



Where is leadership in all this? Certainly not from our prime minister. Justin Trudeau seems devoid of substance. A leader supposedly of the whole country, yet seemingly indifferent to the fate of Canada's oil and gas industry during this pandemic. A leader who does not understand economics, and, worse still, does not care that he does not understand. A "leader" who seems more concerned wooing Chinese-influenced despots and dictators in a quest to secure a seat on the United Nations' Security Council.

Canada is FUBAR. Immigrants can have it.

I'm not that pessimistic.

Anonymous

There has been a spike in COVID cases in Texas. Are they going to reimpose restrictions kiebers?

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I'm keeping daily chart on Florida because it started opening some time ago in stages  ... noticed serious climb in new cases last several days .. so far no death increase, but that always lags new cases .. wouldn't show for a few more days (if it is going to happen)



Also keep Sweden daily .. It's strange ... the total keeps increasing rapidly but posted "new cases" is a small fraction of what  posted "total cases" shows  .. not sure what they are trying to prove



I also track Georgia - new cases numbers are climbing fairly quickly last cpl of weeks .. deaths low so far



Will let y'all know if things change in a big way as time goes on
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=366326 time=1592226856 user_id=2015
There has been a spike in COVID cases in Texas. Are they going to reimpose restrictions kiebers?

What has old kiebers have to say about it. We just opened bars, restaurants and bottle returns. I have no desire to go back to having them closed.

Anonymous

Where kiebers lives in Texas has the highest number of COVID-19 cases.

Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=366349 time=1592251337 user_id=3254
Where kiebers lives in Texas has the highest number of COVID-19 cases.

It is the biggest city in the state.

Berry Sweet