The long term cost of lock downs

[Anonymous]

Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former director of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and current board member at Pfizer, said that declining COVID-19 cases should signal to policymakers that it is time to lift more pandemic-related restrictions.



Gottlieb said that "a lot of the acrimony" in the United States stems from a lack of "clear goalposts" about when some of the measures will end.



The former FDA commissioner also cited the Connecticut government's recent decision to rescind vaccine mandates for state workers as a policy that other policymakers should adopt in the near future as COVID-19 cases decline nationwide.



"The only way to get compliance from people and get accommodation [is] if we demonstrate the ability to withdraw these [mandates] in the same manner in which we put them in," Gottlieb added.

[Anonymous]

Ex NHLer Mike Fisher on the freedom convoy heading to Ottawa.

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[Anonymous]

Ex NHLer Mike Fisher on the freedom convoy heading to Ottawa.

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[Anonymous]

The incredibly high cost of lockdowns was all for nothing.



A new study out of Johns Hopkins University is claiming that worldwide pandemic lockdowns only prevented 0.2 per cent of COVID-19 deaths and were "not an effective way of reducing mortality rates during a pandemic."

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/johns-hopkins-university-study-covid-19-lockdowns?__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads">https://nationalpost.com/news/world/joh ... n_with_ads">https://nationalpost.com/news/world/johns-hopkins-university-study-covid-19-lockdowns?__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads

[Bricktop]

We already knew that.



The lockdowns were to cover for government failure to prepare and act appropriately.

[Anonymous]

We already knew that.



The lockdowns were to cover for government failure to prepare and act appropriately.

Now we have something to point to. Lockdowns failed and we repeated the mistake.

[Bricktop]

The GOVERNMENTS repeated the mistake, knowingly and willingly. Their response to this pandemic will damage the acceptance and respect of the people for their governments, perhaps indelibly.



They took away our rights and freedoms because they were inept, negligent, ill-prepared, prevaricating and procrastinating.



They lied to us to protect themselves and their bureaucracies.  They followed the easy path that treads on our basic rights in lieu of the hard road that required them to get off their bloated arses and act proportionally and sensibly.

[Anonymous]

The GOVERNMENTS repeated the mistake, knowingly and willingly. Their response to this pandemic will damage the acceptance and respect of the people for their governments, perhaps indelibly.



They took away our rights and freedoms because they were inept, negligent, ill-prepared, prevaricating and procrastinating.



They lied to us to protect themselves and their bureaucracies.  They followed the easy path that treads on our basic rights in lieu of the hard road that required them to get off their bloated arses and act proportionally and sensibly.

They could be forgiven for the first lockdown. It was their first pandemic. The second, third, and fourth lockdowns, hey what are you doing.

[Anonymous]

In Italy, the unvaxxed are now forbidden from entering post offices to withdraw their pension, and they are to be allowed access to supermarkets only to buy "goods of primary necessity."

[Anonymous]

Japan has remained closed to most foreigners during this, denying entry for work, study or visiting relatives.

[cc]

They could be forgiven for the first lockdown. It was their first pandemic. The second, third, and fourth lockdowns, hey what are you doing.

That statement on it's own is moot.  How many is not the issue.



It really comes down to "all things considered", are lockdowns needed  .. or not ... especially in light of the fact that this was the largest of all as are greatly increased hospitalizations (the actual driver of lockdowns & regs)



I don't know the answer to what is best, but the above is the facts of it all



With this round where because of sheer numbers, cases likely a factor, with hospitalizations beingthe main driver.



it could not be more obvious from examination of those hospitalized, high hospitalizations were driven by the unvaxxed and thus were the driver of lockdowns .. making criticism from them (the very cause of the great numbers of hospitalizations), extremely lame & pathetic  .... meeting  "The Very Definition of Hypocrisy"

[Bricktop]

Once again you decry a category of society as being the "the very cause" of people seeking medical treatment in hospitals.



And I repeat; how is that different from bad drivers, drug and alcohol abusers, clumsy old people (I fell in the pool last year whilst cleaning and have had two operations and a third is likely) and during winter those who've failed to have their flu shots.



If you are going to apply qualifications as to who can and cannot receive treatment based on their poor or misguided decisions, then you will be saving the health system a whole lot of money and they can close half the hospitals down.



The right of people to choose if and when a chemical is injected into theirs and their childrens bodies is inalienable.



This plague will pass, but if history is any guide, the rights taken from us by incompetent politicians out of panic and ignorance may never be restored.

[Anonymous]

The incredibly high cost of lockdowns was all for nothing.



A new study out of Johns Hopkins University is claiming that worldwide pandemic lockdowns only prevented 0.2 per cent of COVID-19 deaths and were "not an effective way of reducing mortality rates during a pandemic."

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/johns-hopkins-university-study-covid-19-lockdowns?__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads">https://nationalpost.com/news/world/joh ... n_with_ads">https://nationalpost.com/news/world/johns-hopkins-university-study-covid-19-lockdowns?__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads

I will have to read the whole study before I can point to it and say aha, here's the smoking gun.

[Anonymous]

Since this started I predicted lockdowns would do a lot of harm and protect very few. A study from Johns Hopkins confirmed that.

[cc]

Once again you decry a category of society as being the "the very cause" of people seeking medical treatment in hospitals.

"That category"  are the great majority of hospital cases when our hospitals are filling up  - Every district everywhere shows that.

There is nothing to argue about on that issue ... unless you have some data from somewhere I'm, not familiar with

If you are going to apply qualifications as to who can and cannot receive treatment ......

Not my position at all



Please step down  off the high horse & come down to earth with the rest of us mere humans