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QuoteRailways' employee surveillance plan raises privacy issues



Video and voice recorders will be installed on national railways at a price tag of close to $79 million, says the department of transport.



Within two years, Parliament has mandated high-grade recorders be installed in all locomotive cabs.



Per Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."



In 2018, Parliament passed an act to exempt train crews from federal privacy laws with the installation of recorders at a cost of $76.8 million, a measure endorsed by railways.



Unions and legislators, including Conservative and Liberal appointees in the Senate, opposed it as an unprecedented step in workplace surveillance.



The regulations come into effect Sept. 2, 2022.



"This is an egregious violation of workers' rights," said Senator Frances Lankin (Ont).



"We have seen over the decades a slow encroachment on workers' privacy. This is one of the most blatant examples that takes it to a new level."



Added Senator Michael MacDonald (N.S.): "I think it is a huge breach of privacy. How many intrusions do you make into the Privacy Act to the point where it becomes meaningless, where you have no Privacy Act? We have to draw the line somewhere and I'm very strongly of the opinion that we have to draw the line on this."



Randomly-viewed recordings, according to the bill, will be permissible.



At a 2018 Senate transport committee hearing, union executives testified that recordings should only be used by federal safety investigators.



Unifor national rail director Bruce Snow described a locomotive as a "10 by 10-foot workspace" used by crew as a lunchroom and change room on long shifts.



"The camera is in their face," he said.



"All the dialogue, all the engagement between employees for 12, 14, 16 hours a day is being recorded. Nothing is sacred."



According to Blacklock's Reporter, the department has acknowledged it had no data on whether recorders would prevent rail accidents.



"It is not possible to predict the future safety measures that could be developed by reviewing locomotive voice and video recordings and it would not be appropriate to assume what kind of impact they might have," wrote staff.



"There is a lack of research."

https://torontosun.com/news/national/railways-employee-surveillance-plan-raises-privacy-issues">https://torontosun.com/news/national/ra ... acy-issues">https://torontosun.com/news/national/railways-employee-surveillance-plan-raises-privacy-issues

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=379121 time=1599262029 user_id=2015
Retirement cannot come soon enough.


QuoteRailways' employee surveillance plan raises privacy issues



Video and voice recorders will be installed on national railways at a price tag of close to $79 million, says the department of transport.



Within two years, Parliament has mandated high-grade recorders be installed in all locomotive cabs.



Per Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."



In 2018, Parliament passed an act to exempt train crews from federal privacy laws with the installation of recorders at a cost of $76.8 million, a measure endorsed by railways.



Unions and legislators, including Conservative and Liberal appointees in the Senate, opposed it as an unprecedented step in workplace surveillance.



The regulations come into effect Sept. 2, 2022.



"This is an egregious violation of workers' rights," said Senator Frances Lankin (Ont).



"We have seen over the decades a slow encroachment on workers' privacy. This is one of the most blatant examples that takes it to a new level."



Added Senator Michael MacDonald (N.S.): "I think it is a huge breach of privacy. How many intrusions do you make into the Privacy Act to the point where it becomes meaningless, where you have no Privacy Act? We have to draw the line somewhere and I'm very strongly of the opinion that we have to draw the line on this."



Randomly-viewed recordings, according to the bill, will be permissible.



At a 2018 Senate transport committee hearing, union executives testified that recordings should only be used by federal safety investigators.



Unifor national rail director Bruce Snow described a locomotive as a "10 by 10-foot workspace" used by crew as a lunchroom and change room on long shifts.



"The camera is in their face," he said.



"All the dialogue, all the engagement between employees for 12, 14, 16 hours a day is being recorded. Nothing is sacred."



According to Blacklock's Reporter, the department has acknowledged it had no data on whether recorders would prevent rail accidents.



"It is not possible to predict the future safety measures that could be developed by reviewing locomotive voice and video recordings and it would not be appropriate to assume what kind of impact they might have," wrote staff.



"There is a lack of research."

https://torontosun.com/news/national/railways-employee-surveillance-plan-raises-privacy-issues">https://torontosun.com/news/national/ra ... acy-issues">https://torontosun.com/news/national/railways-employee-surveillance-plan-raises-privacy-issues

True Dope will see you when you're sleeping. He'll know when you're awake.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=379126 time=1599262641 user_id=56
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=379121 time=1599262029 user_id=2015
Retirement cannot come soon enough.


QuoteRailways' employee surveillance plan raises privacy issues



Video and voice recorders will be installed on national railways at a price tag of close to $79 million, says the department of transport.



Within two years, Parliament has mandated high-grade recorders be installed in all locomotive cabs.



Per Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."



In 2018, Parliament passed an act to exempt train crews from federal privacy laws with the installation of recorders at a cost of $76.8 million, a measure endorsed by railways.



Unions and legislators, including Conservative and Liberal appointees in the Senate, opposed it as an unprecedented step in workplace surveillance.



The regulations come into effect Sept. 2, 2022.



"This is an egregious violation of workers' rights," said Senator Frances Lankin (Ont).



"We have seen over the decades a slow encroachment on workers' privacy. This is one of the most blatant examples that takes it to a new level."



Added Senator Michael MacDonald (N.S.): "I think it is a huge breach of privacy. How many intrusions do you make into the Privacy Act to the point where it becomes meaningless, where you have no Privacy Act? We have to draw the line somewhere and I'm very strongly of the opinion that we have to draw the line on this."



Randomly-viewed recordings, according to the bill, will be permissible.



At a 2018 Senate transport committee hearing, union executives testified that recordings should only be used by federal safety investigators.



Unifor national rail director Bruce Snow described a locomotive as a "10 by 10-foot workspace" used by crew as a lunchroom and change room on long shifts.



"The camera is in their face," he said.



"All the dialogue, all the engagement between employees for 12, 14, 16 hours a day is being recorded. Nothing is sacred."



According to Blacklock's Reporter, the department has acknowledged it had no data on whether recorders would prevent rail accidents.



"It is not possible to predict the future safety measures that could be developed by reviewing locomotive voice and video recordings and it would not be appropriate to assume what kind of impact they might have," wrote staff.



"There is a lack of research."

https://torontosun.com/news/national/railways-employee-surveillance-plan-raises-privacy-issues">https://torontosun.com/news/national/ra ... acy-issues">https://torontosun.com/news/national/railways-employee-surveillance-plan-raises-privacy-issues

True Dope will see you when you're sleeping. He'll know when you're awake.

Trudeau is no Santa Claus. Taking away our privacy is another lump of coal in the stockings of blue collar workers.

Anonymous

QuotePer Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."

This is too much.

Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379132 time=1599266808 user_id=3254
QuotePer Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."

This is too much.

We should put voice and audio/video equipment in Justine's office so we will know if he's sleeping on the job. Or if the lazy asshole is even on the job.

cc

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=379126 time=1599262641 user_id=56
True Dope will see you when you're sleeping. He'll know when you're awake.


Aw, if only that was ALL he might do while watching  :sneaky2:  :001_tongue:







And then there's  :24pb120:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=379133 time=1599267694 user_id=1689
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379132 time=1599266808 user_id=3254
QuotePer Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."

This is too much.

We should put voice and audio/video equipment in Justine's office so we will know if he's sleeping on the job. Or if the lazy asshole is even on the job.

That seems fair.

Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379138 time=1599271000 user_id=3254
Quote from: Herman post_id=379133 time=1599267694 user_id=1689
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379132 time=1599266808 user_id=3254
QuotePer Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."

This is too much.

We should put voice and audio/video equipment in Justine's office so we will know if he's sleeping on the job. Or if the lazy asshole is even on the job.

That seems fair.

It doesn't go far enough. If there's a derailment, conductors and hogheads are sent for drug screening. Every time Trudeau breaks House ethics rules, he should have to pee in a cup too.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=379140 time=1599271879 user_id=2015
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379138 time=1599271000 user_id=3254
Quote from: Herman post_id=379133 time=1599267694 user_id=1689
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379132 time=1599266808 user_id=3254
QuotePer Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."

This is too much.

We should put voice and audio/video equipment in Justine's office so we will know if he's sleeping on the job. Or if the lazy asshole is even on the job.

That seems fair.

It doesn't go far enough. If there's a derailment, conductors and hogheads are sent for drug screening. Every time Trudeau breaks House ethics rules, he should have to pee in a cup too.

Are you joking IHJ?

Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379142 time=1599272177 user_id=3254
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=379140 time=1599271879 user_id=2015
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379138 time=1599271000 user_id=3254
Quote from: Herman post_id=379133 time=1599267694 user_id=1689
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379132 time=1599266808 user_id=3254
QuotePer Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."

This is too much.

We should put voice and audio/video equipment in Justine's office so we will know if he's sleeping on the job. Or if the lazy asshole is even on the job.

That seems fair.

It doesn't go far enough. If there's a derailment, conductors and hogheads are sent for drug screening. Every time Trudeau breaks House ethics rules, he should have to pee in a cup too.

Are you joking IHJ?

I am dead serious.

Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379142 time=1599272177 user_id=3254
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=379140 time=1599271879 user_id=2015
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379138 time=1599271000 user_id=3254
Quote from: Herman post_id=379133 time=1599267694 user_id=1689
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379132 time=1599266808 user_id=3254
QuotePer Blacklock's Reporter, the department in a regulatory notice said cameras will watch whether crews are sleeping, using cellphones, reading or "using intoxicants or impairing drugs" on the job or "not verbally communicating in a clear and audible manner information they are required to verbally communicate."

This is too much.

We should put voice and audio/video equipment in Justine's office so we will know if he's sleeping on the job. Or if the lazy asshole is even on the job.

That seems fair.

It doesn't go far enough. If there's a derailment, conductors and hogheads are sent for drug screening. Every time Trudeau breaks House ethics rules, he should have to pee in a cup too.

Are you joking IHJ?

Why shouldn't rich progs live by the rules they force on blue collar workers.

Frood

All public employees should be recorded when they're on the job, toilet and meal breaks not included.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=379191 time=1599294554 user_id=1676
All public employees should be recorded when they're on the job, toilet and meal breaks not included.

I'd be uncomfortable with that..



But, it would stop one of my co workers from being on Facebook and Youtube all day.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=379191 time=1599294554 user_id=1676
All public employees should be recorded when they're on the job, toilet and meal breaks not included.

If you don't want to be monitored on the job, don't apply at either of Canada's two class 1 railways. Easy peasy.



The problem is existing employees.

Frood

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=379208 time=1599320952 user_id=3254
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=379191 time=1599294554 user_id=1676
All public employees should be recorded when they're on the job, toilet and meal breaks not included.

I'd be uncomfortable with that..



But, it would stop one of my co workers from being on Facebook and Youtube all day.


The public is your boss.
Blahhhhhh...