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Covid and lock downs in a nutshell

Started by Frood, September 06, 2020, 11:09:28 AM

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Quote from: Thiel post_id=400700 time=1612498685 user_id=1688
An open letter signed by more than 100 Canadian doctors, including some of the country's top pediatric experts, is calling on provincial governments across the country to reopen schools and to keep them open.



The letter is being sent to all premiers and ministers of education and health.

The teachers' unions don't want their members to return to work.

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QuoteThe teachers' unions don't want their members to return to work.




But they do expect to be paid
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=400743 time=1612544331 user_id=88
QuoteThe teachers' unions don't want their members to return to work.




But they do expect to be paid

They're being completely unreasonable.

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Quote from: cc post_id=400743 time=1612544331 user_id=88
QuoteThe teachers' unions don't want their members to return to work.




But they do expect to be paid

They're being completely unreasonable.

Gotta love the way those teachers unions keep the student's interests foremost  :wink:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

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Quote from: Fashionista post_id=400744 time=1612544608 user_id=3254
Quote from: cc post_id=400743 time=1612544331 user_id=88
QuoteThe teachers' unions don't want their members to return to work.




But they do expect to be paid

They're being completely unreasonable.

Gotta love the way those teachers unions keep the student's interests foremost  :wink:

There are probably some or many teachers who want to be back in the classroom, but it's their unions who insist their lives are in grave danger.

 :001_rolleyes:

Anonymous

Why haven't funeral homes had a drastic increase in business over the last 12 months. Why there hasn't even been an increase in obituaries either.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=401335 time=1612913697 user_id=56
Why haven't funeral homes had a drastic increase in business over the last 12 months. Why there hasn't even been an increase in obituaries either.

I can't answer the latter, but restrictions have nearly put funeral homes out of business.

Frood

Our faggot piece of fuckwit shit PM Kim Jong Dan Andrews just issued a snap 5 day return to lockdown...



I hope this motherfucker has a brain aneurysm then gets run over by a semi truck and his remains jettisoned into hell in a bag of soiled nappies.



https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiENmCqYQ3JGQH6PMF85kemlYqFwgEKg4IACoGCAow3vI9MPeaCDDEvrgG?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen">https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEN ... id=AU%3Aen">https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiENmCqYQ3JGQH6PMF85kemlYqFwgEKg4IACoGCAow3vI9MPeaCDDEvrgG?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=401705 time=1613106680 user_id=1676
Our faggot piece of fuckwit shit PM Kim Jong Dan Andrews just issued a snap 5 day return to lockdown...



I hope this motherfucker has a brain aneurysm then gets run over by a semi truck and his remains jettisoned into hell in a bag of soiled nappies.



https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiENmCqYQ3JGQH6PMF85kemlYqFwgEKg4IACoGCAow3vI9MPeaCDDEvrgG?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen">https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEN ... id=AU%3Aen">https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiENmCqYQ3JGQH6PMF85kemlYqFwgEKg4IACoGCAow3vI9MPeaCDDEvrgG?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

Herman posted something about him in RR.

Anonymous

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Quote from: Herman post_id=401801 time=1613178212 user_id=1689
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When one death is too many became the rally cry. Except for the deaths from things like cancer, mvi's, suicide, drug overdose etc., those are just normal course of business deaths.

Anonymous

Even some leftists are fed up with teachers unions intrasigence on in school learning.



'Really f***ed up': Progressive writer blasts Democrats for playing politics, cowering to unions, and ignoring science in refusal to reopen schools



'I will never understand how the left in this country has decided that advocating for putting kids first is somehow right-wing'



Parents across the country have been clamoring for state governments to reopen schools, yet in blue states those calls are largely being ignored, while red states are far more likely to have reopened schools.



The Democratic intransigence on opening schools has not escaped Americans' attention — both on the political right and left.



One Bay Area writer — and admitted left-wing progressive — is taking her fellow leftists and the Democrats they support to task for playing politics with kids' lives by cowering to teachers' unions and ignoring science in their refusal to get schools open again.



Dr. Rebecca Bodenheimer, an Oakland-based writer, posted what she called her "rant" about the politics involved in the fight over reopening schools this weekend — and she went directly after the "Democratic apathy" and the party's ties to teachers' unions.



Noting that experts in public health, including the CDC, have said it is safe to reopen schools and that reopening should be a priority, Bodenheimer lamented that "anyone can sit by and think this is an acceptable state of affairs for a developed country" and said it makes her "blood boil to see how little this country cares about kids."



And then she went after the specific culprits in all of this: Democratic leadership and teachers' unions.



"The politicization of this issue is what's really f***ed up," she wrote.



"Schools are largely open in red states and closed in blue ones," Bodenheimer continued, pointing to "Burbio's K-12 School Opening Tracker."



Bodenheimer has found herself flummoxed by the situation.



"It's very difficult for me to understand the simplistic thinking that says: Trump said open schools, so we must keep them closed at all costs," she said. "I have never felt so alienated from the people I usually align myself with politically. I will never understand how the left in this country has decided that advocating for putting kids first is somehow right-wing."



She's not the only one her in tribe noticing the left's failure, she said. Liberal California parents like her are about ready to take out their frustration on Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom:



I'm hearing from progressive parents all the time who are so infuriated about the Democratic apathy around school reopening — from politicians like Gavin Newsom, who are willing to allow their stances to be dictated by teachers' unions — that they're considering supporting the recall effort, maybe even switching parties.

But she reserved her harshest criticism for the unions that have ignored the science surrounding the coronavirus and schools:



[H]ere's the thing: parents are not willing to sacrifice their kids' wellbeing for the sake of ideology or being a good leftist. And they shouldn't. It's our most important job to do what's best for our kids. And if that means calling out teachers' unions, so be it. I won't stay silent while unions ignore the science and the entire public health community, and all the research telling us schools aren't drivers of transmission, that spread is much lower in schools than in the surrounding community. Last March we didn't know any better. But now we know — and we've known for months. Europe opened up in the fall. Florida, Texas, all the red states opened up. Rhode Island was one of the few blue states that was committed to putting kids first. Can you remember even one major outbreak that was tied to school transmission (not a handful of cases, but an outbreak)? I can't. And teachers aren't at greater risk either.



Many of the parents I'm working with on this issue see themselves as progressive and have until now supported organized labor and unions (I myself went to the picket line for Oakland teachers 2 years ago), but it's so clear to us that teachers' unions are dead wrong on this issue and that their interests are diametrically opposed to what's best for our kids. Your own kid might be doing ok in remote learning, but by and large, kids aren't doing well. Mine sure isn't. Just remember: the principles of child development haven't just vanished because we're in a pandemic. It's still not good to have our kids in front of the screen for hours upon hours every day. Kids still need to learn alongside other kids and still need to play with other kids. What I'm saying is, there's no amount of improvement of distance learning you can do that will make it be a good platform for learning.

Unions and their allies, according to Bodenheimer, need to abandon their "absurd justifications" for not reopening — "like denying there's any learning loss associated with distance learning or suggesting parents can be adequate substitutes for teachers" — and get back to work.



The teachers' unions' "tone-deaf and ridiculous" claims are undermining the proclaimed worth of teachers, she noted.



"If parents or anyone else could fill in so easily, why should we pay teachers more?" she asked. "Why should we value them as professionals?"

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Anonymous

While Canadian public health officials would like to claim that lockdowns are almost exclusively to thank for these massive improvements, a survey of the evidence suggests that is not the case.



This is because jurisdictions that said no to lockdowns, like Florida and South Dakota, have seen similar declines.



All across the United States, cities run by both Republican and Democratic mayors are responsibly reopening.



Some of them reopened weeks ago, and yet their states continue to see rapid declines.



These are facts that Canadians should reflect on.



If we're going to talk about making evidence-based decisions and following the science, it's pretty clear that the evidence is telling us that all regions of Canada should now be responsibly reopening, including our big cities.



While it's important to discuss what "might" happen with COVID



19 — both the good and the bad — we also have many months of evidence to learn from what did happen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

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hmmm