China Would Control a ‘Green Energy’ World

[Anonymous]

Greenpeace and The Sierra Club doesn't talk about how changing energy sources affects geopolitics.

[media]

[Anonymous]

We in North America have oil and gas, but China has rare earth metals..



Greening our industries is desirable, but deliberately becoming dependent on China is so dangerous.

[Anonymous]

We have Justin and Joe now. Face it, the whole world will be working for us. You'll like, we're nice people.

[Anonymous]

We have Justin and Joe now. Face it, the whole world will be working for us. You'll like, we're nice people.

I know that's China's goal and the stars are aligning for China.

[Frood]

There's a gun behind every blade of grass...

[kiebers]

There's a gun behind every blade of grass...

Some with 2 or more....

just sayin...  ac_biggrin

 

[sasquatch]

We in North America have oil and gas, but China has rare earth metals..



Greening our industries is desirable, but deliberately becoming dependent on China is so dangerous.

https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/science-data/science-research/earth-sciences/earth-sciences-resources/earth-sciences-federal-programs/rare-earth-elements-facts/20522">https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/science-data/sc ... acts/20522">https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/science-data/science-research/earth-sciences/earth-sciences-resources/earth-sciences-federal-programs/rare-earth-elements-facts/20522

The problem isn't whether or not a country has rare earth metals. but whether or not a country can REFINE rare earth metals.



The chinese don't give a shit and have no problem dumping radioactive sludge all over the place.

https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining">https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wr ... rth-mining">https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining



And those issues are quickly being resolved and china went from having 93% of Rare earth metal production down to just 70%.



As it stands right now, yeah they will dominate the market and big companies will just continue to send this stuff to china anywaysa, becauase they would rather have chinese people asemble them for pennies on the dollar.

[Anonymous]

We in North America have oil and gas, but China has rare earth metals..



Greening our industries is desirable, but deliberately becoming dependent on China is so dangerous.

https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/science-data/science-research/earth-sciences/earth-sciences-resources/earth-sciences-federal-programs/rare-earth-elements-facts/20522">https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/science-data/sc ... acts/20522">https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/science-data/science-research/earth-sciences/earth-sciences-resources/earth-sciences-federal-programs/rare-earth-elements-facts/20522

The problem isn't whether or not a country has rare earth metals. but whether or not a country can REFINE rare earth metals.



The chinese don't give a shit and have no problem dumping radioactive sludge all over the place.

https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining">https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wr ... rth-mining">https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining



And those issues are quickly being resolved and china went from having 93% of Rare earth metal production down to just 70%.



As it stands right now, yeah they will dominate the market and big companies will just continue to send this stuff to china anyways, becauase they would rather have chinese people asemble them for pennies on the dollar.

More than wages, if production of raw materials or the manufacture of wind and solar components are outside China they can't threaten to bring a country to it's knees like they did to Japan with rare earths and like they did to the West with medical supplies during this pandemic.

[Anonymous]

sasquatch, wage differentials between China and the West are not that wide anymore when productivity is factored in. Having said that, Wall Street is very happy to have a China stooge in the white house again.



Beijing, Wall Street Could Deepen Ties Under Potential Biden Presidency



WASHINGTON—Wall Street has thrived under President Donald Trump even as many of its donors favored his Democratic challenger Joe Biden in the 2020 election. One reason for the preference for Biden might be discomfort with Trump's China policies.



During this election cycle, Wall Street contributed more than $70 million to Biden's political campaign, much more than Trump received from hedge funds and investment banks, according to CNBC. That's also more than Barack Obama collected from Wall Street in his two presidential runs combined.



Since Democrats raised a substantial amount of money from the sector, "that means to me they're making deals," Trump told reporters on Nov. 3 at his campaign headquarters in Virginia.



For more than a decade, Chinese companies have taken advantage of U.S. capital markets while operating under lax standards. Regulators in Beijing have refused to allow audit inspections of its U.S.-listed companies on the grounds of national security and state secrecy.



In 2013, during the Obama-Biden administration, a U.S. regulator, the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board, signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with Chinese regulators. The MOU gave Chinese companies improved access to U.S. capital markets without complying with the same disclosure rules required of U.S. companies.



The concession was part of then-Vice President Biden's active involvement in strengthening the United States' commercial ties with China. Transcripts from the Obama administration's archives show that the agreement was reached after Chinese leaders held multiple meetings with Biden, according to a Just the News article published in May.



As a result of this concession, U.S. investors, through their pension funds, have been unknowingly transferring wealth from the United States to Chinese entities that don't comply with U.S. standards. Some of these companies are sanctioned by the U.S. government even as they're involved in the Chinese Communist Party's military, espionage, and human rights abuses.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/beijing-and-wall-street-could-deepen-ties-under-biden-presidency_3573144.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-11-11">https://www.theepochtimes.com/beijing-a ... 2020-11-11">https://www.theepochtimes.com/beijing-and-wall-street-could-deepen-ties-under-biden-presidency_3573144.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-11-11

[Anonymous]

Look you whiners, it's not China or any other foreign country's responsibility to look out for your economic, environmental and energy security interests. it's not China's fault you keep electing governments lead by the sorry likes of True Dope and Hidin Biden.

[cc]

I have to agree with that



The fault is with our electorates

[Anonymous]

I know going green and new green opportunities are misleading.

[Anonymous]

I have to agree with that



The fault is with our electorates

Don't you hate when the China apologist is right.

[Anonymous]

Look you whiners, it's not China or any other foreign country's responsibility to look out for your economic, environmental and energy security interests. it's not China's fault you keep electing governments lead by the sorry likes of True Dope and Hidin Biden.

We need to wake up.

[Anonymous]

I have to agree with that



The fault is with our electorates

Don't you hate when the China apologist is right.

I'm always fucking right.