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What They Don’t Tell You About Electric Vehicles

Started by Anonymous, December 27, 2020, 02:10:27 PM

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Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=440467 time=1645403591 user_id=2015
I don't know anybody that owns an electric car. I would never own one as long as I live in Winnipeg.

We're not interested in electric vehicles.

cc

If that burning ship full of electric cars  goes down (with crew removed and watching) the environmental sea damage will be humongous



I "think" the burning will continue till complete even underwater  .. open to being contradicted on that
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=440483 time=1645405949 user_id=88
If that burning ship full of electric cars  goes down (with crew removed and watching) the environmental sea damage will be humongous



I "think" the burning will continue till complete even underwater  .. open to being contradicted on that

Yes, it will.

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=440483 time=1645405949 user_id=88
If that burning ship full of electric cars  goes down (with crew removed and watching) the environmental sea damage will be humongous



I "think" the burning will continue till complete even underwater  .. open to being contradicted on that

Prog media will barely cover it even though it is a hell of a lot worse environmentally than an offshore rig's BOP stack not being shut in on time and causing a pressurized blowout.

cc

True. They are spinning their wheels off at this moment



UPDATE 1 Hour ago



Currently is is still burning top toward bottom with flames getting lower and lower in the ship



There is talk firefighting ships are on the way, but look at the pic - What can they do to slow it down? No amount of water will put out burning batteries .. best it can do is cool the outsides of the ship a bit in a fight to keep it afloat



https://www.maritime-executive.com/media/images/article/Photos/Wreckage_Salvage/felicity-ace-20-feb-portuguese-navy.6eb5b4.jpg">
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=440492 time=1645409064 user_id=88
True. They are spinning their wheels off at this moment



UPDATE 1 Hour ago



Currently is is still burning top toward bottom with flames getting lower and lower in the ship



There is talk firefighting ships are on the way, but look at the pic - What can they do to slow it down? No amount of water will put out burning batteries .. best it can do is cool the outsides of the ship a bit in a fight to keep it afloat



https://www.maritime-executive.com/media/images/article/Photos/Wreckage_Salvage/felicity-ace-20-feb-portuguese-navy.6eb5b4.jpg">

cc, Global Calgary didn't even mention this.

cc

Ya. It's not what PC wants  .. Bad stuff about electric they just want to go away



I forgot to link above https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/car-carrier-felicity-ace-continues-to-burn">https://www.maritime-executive.com/arti ... es-to-burn">https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/car-carrier-felicity-ace-continues-to-burn
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=440503 time=1645410320 user_id=88
Ya. It's not what PC wants  .. Bad stuff about electric they just want to go away



I forgot to link above https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/car-carrier-felicity-ace-continues-to-burn">https://www.maritime-executive.com/arti ... es-to-burn">https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/car-carrier-felicity-ace-continues-to-burn

Thank you for the link cc.

Zetsu

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=440428 time=1645387916 user_id=3254
Look at this.

 :ohmy:
Quote
EV batteries could complicate recovery of burning cargo ship with thousands of cars

The ship contains thousands of Audis, Porsches, Lamborghinis, and Bentleys



A bunch of burning lithium-ion batteries could complicate the recovery of the massive, abandoned cargo ship in the Atlantic Ocean containing thousands of Porsches, Volkswagens, Bentleys, and Lamborghinis.



The batteries of an unknown number of electric vehicles have caught fire aboard the ship, captain Joao Mendes Cabecas of the port of Hortas, which is the nearest port to the ship's location, told Reuters. It's unclear at this time whether the batteries are what sparked the fire. Experts in putting out battery fires will be needed to extinguish the blaze.



"The ship is burning from one end to the other... everything is on fire about five meters above the water line," Reuters quotes Cabeças saying.



"The ship is burning from one end to the other... everything is on fire about five meters above the water line," Reuters quotes Cabeças saying.



The Felicity Ace was heading from Germany to a port in Rhode Island when it issued distress signals Wednesday morning, reporting a fire in one of its cargo decks. All 22 crew members were successfully evacuated and did not need medical attention, according to a statement by the Portuguese Navy.



The owner of the vessel is now developing a plan to recover the abandoned ship. Towing boats are en route from Gibraltar and the Netherlands and are expected to arrive at the ship's location next week.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940790/cargo-ship-fire-vw-porsche-lamborghini-ev-battery">https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/2294 ... ev-battery">https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940790/cargo-ship-fire-vw-porsche-lamborghini-ev-battery


It makes me wonder is this caused by VW's new EVs.
Permanently off his rocker

Anonymous

Quote from: Zetsu post_id=440513 time=1645412753 user_id=61
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=440428 time=1645387916 user_id=3254
Look at this.

 :ohmy:
Quote
EV batteries could complicate recovery of burning cargo ship with thousands of cars

The ship contains thousands of Audis, Porsches, Lamborghinis, and Bentleys



A bunch of burning lithium-ion batteries could complicate the recovery of the massive, abandoned cargo ship in the Atlantic Ocean containing thousands of Porsches, Volkswagens, Bentleys, and Lamborghinis.



The batteries of an unknown number of electric vehicles have caught fire aboard the ship, captain Joao Mendes Cabecas of the port of Hortas, which is the nearest port to the ship's location, told Reuters. It's unclear at this time whether the batteries are what sparked the fire. Experts in putting out battery fires will be needed to extinguish the blaze.



"The ship is burning from one end to the other... everything is on fire about five meters above the water line," Reuters quotes Cabeças saying.



"The ship is burning from one end to the other... everything is on fire about five meters above the water line," Reuters quotes Cabeças saying.



The Felicity Ace was heading from Germany to a port in Rhode Island when it issued distress signals Wednesday morning, reporting a fire in one of its cargo decks. All 22 crew members were successfully evacuated and did not need medical attention, according to a statement by the Portuguese Navy.



The owner of the vessel is now developing a plan to recover the abandoned ship. Towing boats are en route from Gibraltar and the Netherlands and are expected to arrive at the ship's location next week.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940790/cargo-ship-fire-vw-porsche-lamborghini-ev-battery">https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/2294 ... ev-battery">https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940790/cargo-ship-fire-vw-porsche-lamborghini-ev-battery


It makes me wonder is this caused by VW's new EVs.

It's all EVs. All I got to say about that is ac_toofunny  ac_lmfao  :roll:

Frood

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=440433 time=1645389473 user_id=3254
Quote from: cc post_id=440432 time=1645389308 user_id=88
Yes, have posted some myself on fire & unable to put out  .. as have others



Further:



"The fire spread further down," he said, explaining that teams could only tackle the fire from outside by cooling down the ship's structure as it was too dangerous to go on board.



They also cannot use water because adding weight to the ship could make it more unstable, and traditional water extinguishers do not stop lithium-ion batteries from burning, Cabeças said.

Electric vehicle fires seem very difficult to extringuish.


A forklift I saw in a warehouse shorted out and went up in flames. Took 45 minutes to stop the burn.
Blahhhhhh...

Bricktop

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=440433 time=1645389473 user_id=3254


Electric vehicle fires seem very difficult to extringuish.


Can't use water, for obvious reasons. Have to use a dry powder extinguisher.

Frood

In the instance I pointed out, about a dozen of them.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=440521 time=1645416285 user_id=1560
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=440433 time=1645389473 user_id=3254


Electric vehicle fires seem very difficult to extringuish.


Can't use water, for obvious reasons. Have to use a dry powder extinguisher.

And even with that it seems to take longer to extinguish battery fires.

Zetsu

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=440514 time=1645412931 user_id=56
Quote from: Zetsu post_id=440513 time=1645412753 user_id=61
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=440428 time=1645387916 user_id=3254
Look at this.

 :ohmy:
Quote
EV batteries could complicate recovery of burning cargo ship with thousands of cars

The ship contains thousands of Audis, Porsches, Lamborghinis, and Bentleys



A bunch of burning lithium-ion batteries could complicate the recovery of the massive, abandoned cargo ship in the Atlantic Ocean containing thousands of Porsches, Volkswagens, Bentleys, and Lamborghinis.



The batteries of an unknown number of electric vehicles have caught fire aboard the ship, captain Joao Mendes Cabecas of the port of Hortas, which is the nearest port to the ship's location, told Reuters. It's unclear at this time whether the batteries are what sparked the fire. Experts in putting out battery fires will be needed to extinguish the blaze.



"The ship is burning from one end to the other... everything is on fire about five meters above the water line," Reuters quotes Cabeças saying.



"The ship is burning from one end to the other... everything is on fire about five meters above the water line," Reuters quotes Cabeças saying.



The Felicity Ace was heading from Germany to a port in Rhode Island when it issued distress signals Wednesday morning, reporting a fire in one of its cargo decks. All 22 crew members were successfully evacuated and did not need medical attention, according to a statement by the Portuguese Navy.



The owner of the vessel is now developing a plan to recover the abandoned ship. Towing boats are en route from Gibraltar and the Netherlands and are expected to arrive at the ship's location next week.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940790/cargo-ship-fire-vw-porsche-lamborghini-ev-battery">https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/2294 ... ev-battery">https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940790/cargo-ship-fire-vw-porsche-lamborghini-ev-battery


It makes me wonder is this caused by VW's new EVs.

It's all EVs. All I got to say about that is ac_toofunny  ac_lmfao  :roll:


Lol I have to agree when even a $100,000 Tesla can engulf in flames.
Permanently off his rocker