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Where did it all go wrong?

Started by Bricktop, November 13, 2021, 07:16:58 PM

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Bricktop

So, it's Sunday and I'm sitting here thinking...where did it all go wrong?



It's clear the our democratically run societies are broken and fragmented. It's clear our systems are dysfunctional and incapable of governing us effectively and efficiently, given the ideological divides in our communities. Governments in western democracies do not have the capacity to unite, when they themselves are fractured along ideological fault lines...left or right.



Yet it wasn't so long ago that we lived in more harmonious times, when debates could be civil, agreements to disagree were common, and differing views were respected.



So, where did it all began to fracture?



My belief is it was the global warming/climate change issue that exposed and exploited the inherent weaknesses of our systems of governance and set us on the path of division and disunity.



From that divide, all others followed. Hatred, fury and anger replaced respect, moderation and calm.



That is not to say that alarmists were right or wrong...although I remain skeptical. It is just an opinion that it became the major fault line that compelled people to become more militant and strident, opening the door for radical elements to rise and exacerbate the disassembly of community cohesion.



It wasn't always like this.



 ac_dunno

cc

You called it right, Brick



Society has gone downhill steadily for a while now .. in all the areas you mention.



At this point, I'm very unsure that we will ever go back. " radical elements" have control now and are using it to stop efforts to return to where we were. Possibly an uprising (I'm referring to people seeing the light and voting smart) will happen .. maybe. If it doesn't we are literally doomed to a very not nice future.



It "may" be too late for a reset.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Frood

This has been going on for over a century...the long slow game.
Blahhhhhh...

cc

Agree it's not a sudden thing. Been slowly at work over decades.



What is sudden is that it's exploded from a 5 over many years to a 10 in past year alone
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Bricktop

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=427126 time=1636863859 user_id=1676
This has been going on for over a century...the long slow game.


I agree, but it was a slow burn until recent times. Some social cataclysm accelerated the decline considerably.

Frood

I remember shit happening in the 80's and 90's... but it was mostly in late high school and university texts and lecturers. Though you can read about the introduction of socialist programs and infrastructure many decades before that.... everything from the New Deal to Social Security and Medicare....national ID.... all with promises of better times if we all just trusted the governments to look after us.... now, they're pushing UBI, eviction moratoriums, student loan forgiveness, Disability pension schemes, 60% plus tax rates, et cetera.... the last decade and a half they've just been mopping up the loose ends and indoctrinating are youngest children, barring suburban food production, demonising meat and combustion engines, and intentionally imploding the once free market...



So, it was a snowball effect....but the rocks they started with at the centre are what makes everything pack the punch.



One big densely packed communist snowball from neo feudalist cocksuckers...
Blahhhhhh...

Zetsu

I believe factors like social media discourage smart people from being  politicians, no matter how good and skilled they are, there'll always be unsatisfied people.
Permanently off his rocker

Frood

Quote from: Zetsu post_id=427137 time=1636900644 user_id=61
I believe factors like social media discourage smart people from being  politicians, no matter how good and skilled they are, there'll always be unsatisfied people.


Or.... they made the mistake of posting as a youth... and it will blow up in their faces...
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=427119 time=1636849018 user_id=1560
So, it's Sunday and I'm sitting here thinking...where did it all go wrong?



It's clear the our democratically run societies are broken and fragmented. It's clear our systems are dysfunctional and incapable of governing us effectively and efficiently, given the ideological divides in our communities. Governments in western democracies do not have the capacity to unite, when they themselves are fractured along ideological fault lines...left or right.



Yet it wasn't so long ago that we lived in more harmonious times, when debates could be civil, agreements to disagree were common, and differing views were respected.



So, where did it all began to fracture?



My belief is it was the global warming/climate change issue that exposed and exploited the inherent weaknesses of our systems of governance and set us on the path of division and disunity.



From that divide, all others followed. Hatred, fury and anger replaced respect, moderation and calm.



That is not to say that alarmists were right or wrong...although I remain skeptical. It is just an opinion that it became the major fault line that compelled people to become more militant and strident, opening the door for radical elements to rise and exacerbate the disassembly of community cohesion.



It wasn't always like this.



 ac_dunno

It was definitely climate change. Every issue now becomes all or nothing.

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=427119 time=1636849018 user_id=1560
So, it's Sunday and I'm sitting here thinking...where did it all go wrong?



It's clear the our democratically run societies are broken and fragmented. It's clear our systems are dysfunctional and incapable of governing us effectively and efficiently, given the ideological divides in our communities. Governments in western democracies do not have the capacity to unite, when they themselves are fractured along ideological fault lines...left or right.



Yet it wasn't so long ago that we lived in more harmonious times, when debates could be civil, agreements to disagree were common, and differing views were respected.



So, where did it all began to fracture?



My belief is it was the global warming/climate change issue that exposed and exploited the inherent weaknesses of our systems of governance and set us on the path of division and disunity.



From that divide, all others followed. Hatred, fury and anger replaced respect, moderation and calm.



That is not to say that alarmists were right or wrong...although I remain skeptical. It is just an opinion that it became the major fault line that compelled people to become more militant and strident, opening the door for radical elements to rise and exacerbate the disassembly of community cohesion.



It wasn't always like this.



 ac_dunno

No offense Brick, but you do a lot of pissing and moaning, but I don't see you offering any alternatives. I don't know what to either.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=427157 time=1636914984 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=427119 time=1636849018 user_id=1560
So, it's Sunday and I'm sitting here thinking...where did it all go wrong?



It's clear the our democratically run societies are broken and fragmented. It's clear our systems are dysfunctional and incapable of governing us effectively and efficiently, given the ideological divides in our communities. Governments in western democracies do not have the capacity to unite, when they themselves are fractured along ideological fault lines...left or right.



Yet it wasn't so long ago that we lived in more harmonious times, when debates could be civil, agreements to disagree were common, and differing views were respected.



So, where did it all began to fracture?



My belief is it was the global warming/climate change issue that exposed and exploited the inherent weaknesses of our systems of governance and set us on the path of division and disunity.



From that divide, all others followed. Hatred, fury and anger replaced respect, moderation and calm.



That is not to say that alarmists were right or wrong...although I remain skeptical. It is just an opinion that it became the major fault line that compelled people to become more militant and strident, opening the door for radical elements to rise and exacerbate the disassembly of community cohesion.



It wasn't always like this.



 ac_dunno

No offense Brick, but you do a lot of pissing and moaning, but I don't see you offering any alternatives. I don't know what to either.

Solution you say. Cyanide the entire white population. That will eliminate Marxim once and for all.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=427172 time=1636922309 user_id=56
Quote from: Herman post_id=427157 time=1636914984 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=427119 time=1636849018 user_id=1560
So, it's Sunday and I'm sitting here thinking...where did it all go wrong?



It's clear the our democratically run societies are broken and fragmented. It's clear our systems are dysfunctional and incapable of governing us effectively and efficiently, given the ideological divides in our communities. Governments in western democracies do not have the capacity to unite, when they themselves are fractured along ideological fault lines...left or right.



Yet it wasn't so long ago that we lived in more harmonious times, when debates could be civil, agreements to disagree were common, and differing views were respected.



So, where did it all began to fracture?



My belief is it was the global warming/climate change issue that exposed and exploited the inherent weaknesses of our systems of governance and set us on the path of division and disunity.



From that divide, all others followed. Hatred, fury and anger replaced respect, moderation and calm.



That is not to say that alarmists were right or wrong...although I remain skeptical. It is just an opinion that it became the major fault line that compelled people to become more militant and strident, opening the door for radical elements to rise and exacerbate the disassembly of community cohesion.



It wasn't always like this.



 ac_dunno

No offense Brick, but you do a lot of pissing and moaning, but I don't see you offering any alternatives. I don't know what to either.

Solution you say. Cyanide the entire white population. That will eliminate Marxim once and for all.

Careful please.

Zetsu

Quote from: Herman post_id=427157 time=1636914984 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=427119 time=1636849018 user_id=1560
So, it's Sunday and I'm sitting here thinking...where did it all go wrong?



It's clear the our democratically run societies are broken and fragmented. It's clear our systems are dysfunctional and incapable of governing us effectively and efficiently, given the ideological divides in our communities. Governments in western democracies do not have the capacity to unite, when they themselves are fractured along ideological fault lines...left or right.



Yet it wasn't so long ago that we lived in more harmonious times, when debates could be civil, agreements to disagree were common, and differing views were respected.



So, where did it all began to fracture?



My belief is it was the global warming/climate change issue that exposed and exploited the inherent weaknesses of our systems of governance and set us on the path of division and disunity.



From that divide, all others followed. Hatred, fury and anger replaced respect, moderation and calm.



That is not to say that alarmists were right or wrong...although I remain skeptical. It is just an opinion that it became the major fault line that compelled people to become more militant and strident, opening the door for radical elements to rise and exacerbate the disassembly of community cohesion.



It wasn't always like this.



 ac_dunno

No offense Brick, but you do a lot of pissing and moaning, but I don't see you offering any alternatives. I don't know what to either.


But you gotta admit Bricktop has mention a lot of good rational points or constructive criticism unlike some left wing snowflakes.
Permanently off his rocker

Anonymous


Zetsu

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=427178 time=1636926066 user_id=56
Sox is awesome. He's hawt too.


No doubt for a former police officer, no whining and just get the job done is their trait.
Permanently off his rocker