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Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=428327 time=1637905966 user_id=56
Kyle Rittenhouse didn't illegally bring a gun across state lines and other myths surrounding the trial debunked



Myth: Kyle Rittenhouse illegally brought a gun across state lines

Perhaps the most persistent myth surrounding the case is the idea that Rittenhouse, then 17, brought an AR-15 across state lines. Rittenhouse lived about 20 minutes outside of Kenosha, in Antioch, Illinois. His Illinois residence helped spur rumors that the teenager traveled to Wisconsin with his rifle illegally in tow.



But during his trial, Rittenhouse testified in court that he drove himself from his home in Illinois to Kenosha on August 24, 2020, the day before he fatally shot two men. The gun was already being stored at a friend's house in Kenosha, according to police records and court testimony.



Myth: Kyle Rittenhouse possessed the weapon illegally

Rittenhouse and his friend, Dominick Black, testified that Black, who was 18 at the time, used Rittenhouse's money to purchase the weapon at a Wisconsin hardware store in May 2020. The two reportedly agreed that Black would keep the gun until Rittenhouse turned 18 in January 2021, according to court testimony.



Black is now being prosecuted for participating in the illegal straw purchase of the weapon on behalf of Rittenhouse. But Rittenhouse's possession of the firearm at the time was technically legal.



Earlier this week, Judge Bruce Schroeder threw out a count of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18 after Rittenhouse's defense argued the rifle was not short-barreled, capitalizing on an exception to the Wisconsin statute involving the barrel length of a gun.



Myth: Kyle Rittenhouse's mother drove him to the protests in Kenosha

A popular rumor that spread following the August 2020 shootings was the idea that Rittenhouse's mother, Wendy Rittenhouse, drove her teenaged son to the protests.



In a November CNN interview, Democratic Rep. Karen Bass of California propagated the falsehood, alleging that Wendy accompanied her son over state lines so he could help law enforcement amid the unrest. But as Rittenhouse testified, the teenager drove himself to Kenosha ahead of the protests.



Rittenhouse did testify that his mother drove him to a local police station to surrender following the shootings.



Myth: Rittenhouse went downtown on August 25 to answer a 'call to arms' put out by a Kenosha militia group

A "Kenosha Guard" militia group on Facebook did issue a "call to arms" ahead of the violence on August 25. But the tech company later confirmed that Rittenhouse had not been a follower of the flagged page.



Rittenhouse testified that he and Black went downtown because they were invited to guard the Car Source, a Kenosha car dealership, during the unrest and were under the impression they were going to be paid.



The Khindri brothers who own the dealership denied this under oath, but multiple other witnesses testified against them, backing Rittenhouse's version.



Myth: Kyle Rittenhouse is a self-identified white nationalist

The civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who is representing the Blake family, falsely described Rittenhouse on Friday as a "self-declared white nationalist." But Rittenhouse has never publicly identified as a member of any extremist group.



After he pleaded not guilty to the initial charges in January 2021, prosecutors said Rittenhouse went to a bar in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, where he posed for photos with members said to be of the Proud Boys while flashing a "white power" hand signal.



His legal team said Rittenhouse did not know who the men were or what group they were affiliated with and was unfamiliar with the hand symbol's meaning.



The judge noted that the prosecution did not find any evidence of his affiliation with a white supremacist group in phone records or social media history, and as Michelle Mark previously reported, ruled the trip to the bar was not relevant to the 2020 shooting.


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cc

It was only a fair minded judge who kept the prosecution somewhat honest ... no .. rather pointed out where prosecution  was dishonest and kept it a fair trial. Even then some evidence illegally sprung at the last minute was not fairly treated



In the end, it was the jury that saw through the propaganda and  saved the day from malicious woke lies
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=428360 time=1637944844 user_id=88
It was only a fair minded judge who kept the prosecution somewhat honest ... no .. rather pointed out where prosecution  was dishonest and kept it a fair trial. Even then some evidence illegally sprung at the last minute was not fairly treated



In the end, it was the jury that saw through the propaganda and  saved the day from malicious woke lies

High profile trials in the USA like this one and Derek Chauvin are under a lot of pressure to deliver a verdict the mass media wants or should I say demands.

cc

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Quote from: cc post_id=428360 time=1637944844 user_id=88
It was only a fair minded judge who kept the prosecution somewhat honest ... no .. rather pointed out where prosecution  was dishonest and kept it a fair trial. Even then some evidence illegally sprung at the last minute was not fairly treated



In the end, it was the jury that saw through the propaganda and  saved the day from malicious woke lies

High profile trials in the USA like this one and Derek Chauvin are under a lot of pressure to deliver a verdict the mass media wants or should I say demands.

Yes, and demand it did



Thankfully, the prosecutor overplayed his hand to the extent the jury spotted it and rendered verdicts based only upon law .. while knowing what was "expected" .  They are to be commended

We saw untainted fearless pure justice /  law in action
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Odinson


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I don't think I've ever seen a prosecution (and I've seen a few) so ineptly pursued, so incompetently performed and so blatantly ignoring judges rules regarding admissibility.



Even a police cadet is taught the basic rules of admissibility on issues such as prior behaviour and previous convictions.That idiot was clearly and blatantly attempting to circumvent those rules by raising questions about the defendants prior conduct.



No wonder the judge kicked his ass.

cc

True stuff



This prosecution was driven by agenda and acting out of desperation as it knew its case was very weak so far as the law is concerned. That's no excuse, but it is the reality of how it acted .. desperately



While no excuse, it was under tremendous pressure (and I'm guessin threat) to get the verdict demanded by so many  .. including many in high places
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Odinson


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Anonymous

It's bad enough they lie to the public, but bullying jurors should result in criminal charges against the network.



Kenosha police release bodycam footage of NBC producer caught following Rittenhouse jury — and it looks bad for the network

Law enforcement in Kenosha, Wisconsin, have released body camera footage from an incident involving an NBC producer accused of following the jury out of the courthouse during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. And, in short, it doesn't make the network look good.



What are the details?

The footage picks up during a traffic stop on Nov. 17, after police pulled over alleged freelance producer James Morrison for running a red light near the sealed jury bus.



In the video, posted to Youtube by Law & Crime, a police officer who introduces himself as Officer Jones asks Morrisson, "Were you following a vehicle?"



Morrisson, who described himself as a producer for NBC, responded nervously by saying, "I was trying to see — I was being called by New York, going maybe these are the people you need to follow, but I don't know ... I was trying to ... just do what they told me to do."



The producer went on to confirm that it was a booking producer in New York — and not an affiliate of Chicago or Milwaukee — that had given him instructions to follow the jurors during their break from deliberations.



"How did they know about this vehicle?" Jones asked.



Morrison replied, "I don't know," and then tried to reassure officers by saying, "I mean it was discreet, I wasn't like gonna talk to anybody or anything, just trying to find a location, that's all."



What else?

Officer Jones then requested that Morrisson call his contact in New York so that she could be questioned. He agreed and dialed Irene Byon, who described herself as a booking producer for NBC News.



"We're trying to figure out what's going on here, why you have a reporter or a producer following vehicles out here," Jones then said.



"We were just trying to ... respectfully just trying to ... see if it's possible to find any leads about the case, and so we were ... we were just keeping our distance, just to see where people involved in the trial are positioned," Byon answered, fumbling over her words.



She added, "By no means were we trying to get in contact with any of the jury members or whoever is in the car, we just were trying to see where key players in the trial may be at."



Anything else?

The Kenosha Police Department confirmed the incident on Twitter the following morning, noting that Morrisson was suspected of attempting to photograph jurors, but was stopped by police and issued "several traffic related citations."



News of the incident resulted in Kenosha County Circuit Judge Bruce Schroeder banning NBC News from the courthouse for the remainder of the trial.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/body-cam-footage-nbc-rittenhouse-jury?utm_source=theblaze-dailyAM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__AM%202021-12-02&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20AM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/body-cam- ... Daily%20AM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/body-cam-footage-nbc-rittenhouse-jury?utm_source=theblaze-dailyAM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__AM%202021-12-02&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20AM

cc

I had heard about this during the trial. Thanks for the further detail ... and yes, clearly they should be charged
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=429138 time=1638548625 user_id=114
It's bad enough they lie to the public, but bullying jurors should result in criminal charges against the network.



Kenosha police release bodycam footage of NBC producer caught following Rittenhouse jury — and it looks bad for the network

Law enforcement in Kenosha, Wisconsin, have released body camera footage from an incident involving an NBC producer accused of following the jury out of the courthouse during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. And, in short, it doesn't make the network look good.



What are the details?

The footage picks up during a traffic stop on Nov. 17, after police pulled over alleged freelance producer James Morrison for running a red light near the sealed jury bus.



In the video, posted to Youtube by Law & Crime, a police officer who introduces himself as Officer Jones asks Morrisson, "Were you following a vehicle?"



Morrisson, who described himself as a producer for NBC, responded nervously by saying, "I was trying to see — I was being called by New York, going maybe these are the people you need to follow, but I don't know ... I was trying to ... just do what they told me to do."



The producer went on to confirm that it was a booking producer in New York — and not an affiliate of Chicago or Milwaukee — that had given him instructions to follow the jurors during their break from deliberations.



"How did they know about this vehicle?" Jones asked.



Morrison replied, "I don't know," and then tried to reassure officers by saying, "I mean it was discreet, I wasn't like gonna talk to anybody or anything, just trying to find a location, that's all."



What else?

Officer Jones then requested that Morrisson call his contact in New York so that she could be questioned. He agreed and dialed Irene Byon, who described herself as a booking producer for NBC News.



"We're trying to figure out what's going on here, why you have a reporter or a producer following vehicles out here," Jones then said.



"We were just trying to ... respectfully just trying to ... see if it's possible to find any leads about the case, and so we were ... we were just keeping our distance, just to see where people involved in the trial are positioned," Byon answered, fumbling over her words.



She added, "By no means were we trying to get in contact with any of the jury members or whoever is in the car, we just were trying to see where key players in the trial may be at."



Anything else?

The Kenosha Police Department confirmed the incident on Twitter the following morning, noting that Morrisson was suspected of attempting to photograph jurors, but was stopped by police and issued "several traffic related citations."



News of the incident resulted in Kenosha County Circuit Judge Bruce Schroeder banning NBC News from the courthouse for the remainder of the trial.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/body-cam-footage-nbc-rittenhouse-jury?utm_source=theblaze-dailyAM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__AM%202021-12-02&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20AM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/body-cam- ... Daily%20AM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/body-cam-footage-nbc-rittenhouse-jury?utm_source=theblaze-dailyAM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__AM%202021-12-02&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20AM

They are like gangsters, nothing like real journalists.

Bricktop