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Fossil Fuels are a Hell of a Lot More Sustainable Than Wind and Solar

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Frood

Quote from: Bricktop
Quote from: seoulbroAlthough I can't agree with his conclusions, Director Jeff Gibbs did an outstanding job of skewering solar energy in 1921's Planet of the Humans.

I saw that docco. (I think it was released in 2021. Michael wasn't alive in 1921. :001_tongue: ).



It absolutely smeared renewables.



My favourite part was the massive solar farm built near an American town. When asked how many homes it would provide energy for, the town functionary said with a straight face "Around 40. Maybe."



He also went to the unveiling of a new electric car that would change the world. When the obvious question about the source of its electricity would come from, the salesman's answer was "out of your normal power outlet, of course".



Electric cars are a dead end unless and until they can travel 1000km and can recharge in around 5 minutes...preferable less.



That does not appear likely.

Electric cars need PV built into the body/paint works before they make sense.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbroWind and solar are old technologies and will never be anything more than expensive virtue signalling.



The Future Of Power Generation



The current consensus on energy and climate is both unserious and incoherent. Burning fossil fuels is said to be responsible for global warming due to carbon dioxide emissions. Although nuclear power is a carbon-free energy solution, much of the public seems to be more afraid of a reactor accident than extinction by the greenhouse effect.



Solar and energy conservation have been media darlings since the energy crisis of the 1970s. President Barack Obama spent $100 billion on "green energy" in just one stimulus package. Yet there is little to show for it. World energy use is projected to grow rapidly. Solar accounts for only one percent of energy production.



Although I can't agree with his conclusions, Director Jeff Gibbs did an outstanding job of skewering solar energy in 1921's Planet of the Humans. (Michael Moore is executive producer.) Ethanol, hydrogen-powered cars, solar cells, and other supposedly renewable solutions are exposed as frauds that are dependent on fossil fuel once you scratch the surface.



Brazil's forests are being converted to sugar cane and burned as part of the ethanol scam that Goldman Sachs promotes. The manufacturing process requires a great deal of electric power. There is an amusing scene in the film where a manager explains that Iowa is the perfect location for an ethanol plant because it is near coal deposits.



The closure of a coal-powered plant in Las Vegas is hailed as a victory for solar energy. But in fact, it was replaced with two natural gas-powered facilities.



"Some [solar] panels last only ten years," a solar panel salesman told Gibbs. "I don't know that it's the solution."



Solar cells are not made of sand but mined quartz and coal, which must be melted together in a high-temperature furnace. The furnace itself is likely coal-powered. Dust buildup can dramatically cut a panel's efficiency.



The fact that solar panels can produce electricity only when the sun shines means that a backup solution is required to produce energy at night and when it's cloudy. Energy professionals call this the "intermittency" problem. Unless you are willing to tolerate outages, solar energy will never allow you to turn a fossil fuel plant off.



Even a solar energy festival had to switch to the electric power grid as soon as rain started to fall, as Gibbs shows in another amusing sequence. Cycling power up and down only increases a generator's carbon footprint. So, what's the point of installing solar cells? Well, you can get a tax credit.



While it is often assumed that adding a megawatt of renewable power means that we will need a megawatt less of coal power, a peer-reviewed international comparison study by Richard York of the University of Oregon found that there was very little substitution of this type. For example, adding solar power to an electric grid reduces the need for fossil fuel by about one-tenth of the amount added.



No country emphasizes solar and renewables more than Germany. Yet only 1.5 percent of Germany's energy is from solar and only 3.1 percent from wind, according to Gibbs.



When politicians talk about "green jobs," what they mean is that solar and renewables are more labor-intensive than other energy sources. This is not an advantage! Lower energy prices are a far better way to generate jobs.



After Gibbs has exposed one eco-scam after another, the viewer begins to wonder if any environmental initiative is actually about improving the environment. Unlike Gibbs, I don't think that the alternative to the solar energy fraud is human extinction. So, I am going to talk about nuclear power.



Nuclear power produces 20 percent of U.S. electricity, even though politics has stalled the industry's growth since the Three Mile Island accident in 1979.



The 1986 Chernobyl meltdown in the Soviet Union killed 51 people. Without a containment structure, all the radioactivity in the core was leaked out. Although the HBO Chernobyl drama is filled with scare talk about how it could all have been much worse, this represents a worst-case meltdown scenario.



The U.S Department of Energy recently awarded a $1.27 billion contract to X-energy to build the first of a next-generation reactor scheduled to begin operation in 2027.



X-energy's Xe-100 will be a small modular reactor powered by tristructural isotropic, or triso, particles. These particles are 0.5 mm in diameter. There are three layers of casing to protect the enriched uranium kernel from the high temperature of a reactor core. A layer of silicon carbide is sandwiched between two layers of pyrolytic carbon.



The elaborate system of rods and water cooling found in light-water reactors is dispensed with. Molten salt circulates in the core as a coolant. The use of salt allows a reactor to function at atmospheric pressure. An LWR is under 100 times atmospheric pressure. As there is no danger of a triso reactor melting down, a containment structure is not necessary.



Triso fuel is being manufactured at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee and by BWX Technologies in Lynchburg, Virginia.



China is operating a 200 MWe demonstration triso reactor at Shidao Bay in Shangdong Province. This is a modular high-temperature gas-cooled reactor (MHTGR).



This is not the first time the Department of Energy has attempted to revive the U.S. nuclear industry by introducing an advanced reactor design. Westinghouse contracted to build two AP1000 pressurized-water reactors in Georgia in 2008. These reactors were subject to a series of delays and cost overruns. The 2011 Fukushima accident undercut support for the project. Work stalled in 2017 when Westinghouse filed for bankruptcy.



Both reactors are nonetheless scheduled to open in 2022. While these 1,100-MWe reactors implement economies of scale, the watchwords this time around are modularity and standardization.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/10/the_future_of_power_generation.html
I don't want to freeze in the dark while the elites who force subsidies for wind and solar have diesel generators for back up.

Bricktop

Quote from: ThielWatch this Bricktop.


Interesting. But not quite as relevant to Australia. The vast interior space is effectively dead land. The ecosystem, such as it is, is sparse and miniscule.



The fact that a solar farm will somehow generate heat won't be an issue.



The cynic in me, on the other hand, whispers in my ear that the main reason it is not considered feasible is that there will be no return on investment. The massive cost of installation and maintenance can never be recovered without a huge increase in price to the end consumer.



Despite the ample sunlight that is available during the day, it will cease at night. It is only therefore financially viable for 50% of the time.



This is the fatal flaw of solar farms.

Anonymous

In Canada, it doesn't seem to matter how much solar construction costs, the politicians will make us pay..



It doesn't matter how much more our bills will be either..



It doesn't even matter if it produces enough electricity to keep houses warm and the lights on.

Bricktop

Then stop voting for them.

cc

Quote from: FashionistaIn Canada, it doesn't seem to matter how much solar construction solar costs, the politicians will make us pay..



It doesn't matter how much more our bills will be either..



It doesn't even matter if it produces enough electricity to keep houses warm and the lights on.
Quote from: BricktopThen stop voting for them.
Problem is that all parties are quite similar in that area. The propaganda has been so intense that it has created believers among voters across the political spectrum



I believe it happened what they stopped trying to sell it and started treating it as "established fact" as a starting point and moved further forward from there .. an often  successful  strategy to sell a scam



EG: Our "conservative", sigh,  leader is not significantly different from our liberal ones  in that area .. feeling he would lose votes if he didn't follow accepted  belief



Only IF the scam is busted will things improve
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: BricktopThen stop voting for them.
What you are really saying is don't vote. All federal parties support that bullshit.

Odinson

Funny thing about the rising gas-prices.



When you consider peoples purchasing power, gasoline costs over 10 euros per liter in Ukraine.





It costs 1,88 euros to us because we have more purchasing power than Ukrainians.

Anonymous

Quote from: OdinsonFunny thing about the rising gas-prices.



When you consider peoples purchasing power, gasoline costs over 10 euros per liter in Ukraine.





It costs 1,88 euros to us because we have more purchasing power than Ukrainians.
I'd imagine angering Moscow will not lower gasoline prices in Ukraine.

Anonymous

Nuclear and natural gas are concentrated energy sources, much cleaner and much closer to sustainable than either wind or solar.



EU classifies nuclear power and natural gas as 'green'



The European Union, self-styled global leaders on climate change, acknowledged Wednesday that United Nations' global greenhouse gas emission reduction targets cannot be achieved without what it now officially describes as "green" energy sources such as nuclear power and natural gas.



The EU's 27 member states are deeply divided about classifying nuclear power and natural gas as "green" — which would give an ethical green light to global investors putting money into those technologies, as opposed to unreliable wind and solar power.



That could be economically advantageous for Canada, given that we have safe, reliable nuclear technology and we are the world's fourth-largest producer and sixth-largest exporter of natural gas.



The EU commission is right and to understand why we need to look no further than Ontario's elimination of coal to produce 25% of the province's electricity by replacing it with nuclear power and natural gas.



Carried out from 2003-14, this was one of North America's most successful, effective and rapid reductions of greenhouse gases because nuclear power doesn't produce them and natural gas burns at half the carbon intensity of coal.



Neither wind nor solar power were capable of replacing coal because (a) unlike fossil fuels, they couldn't provide baseload power to the electricity grid on demand and (b) they didn't produce enough energy to replace coal.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-eu-classifies-nuclear-power-and-natural-gas-as-green

Thiel

Conservative leadership candidates should, even before the contest takes a breath, announce that they will condemn, repudiate and promise to revoke the ludicrous and painful carbon tax, and make it clear that the Conservative party is not on side with any efforts to ruin the oil and gas industry by pursuing the folly and farce of net-zero.
gay, conservative and proud

cc

Biden Energy Secretary Calls Solar Panels & Wind Turbines The "Greatest Peace Plan"



Oh boy.



I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: ccBiden Energy Secretary Calls Solar Panels & Wind Turbines The "Greatest Peace Plan"



Oh boy.



She is a stunned cunt.

Anonymous

Quote from: ccBiden Energy Secretary Calls Solar Panels & Wind Turbines The "Greatest Peace Plan"



Oh boy.



She must have meant piece as in a piece of the action for crony capitalists who donate to the Dems.

cc

Biden Administration Kills Israel-To-Europe Gas Pipeline



Biden's decision — reportedly coordinated with Turkey but reached without consulting Israel, Greece or Cyprus, the main countries involved in the project — undercuts three of the strongest American allies in the Mediterranean region.



EastMed's cancellation — variously described as a "disastrous decision," a "strategic mistake" and an act of "appeasement" of Erdoğan — represents a major geopolitical victory for the Turkish strongman.



The EastMed pipeline has been in the works for more than a decade. The Israel-Greece-Cyprus project — joined by Bulgaria, Hungary, North Macedonia, Romania and Serbia — has long been seen as a way to diversify natural gas supplies to Europe.



The Turkish government has always insisted that Israeli gas can only be sold to Europe through Turkey.



"The Americans do not want the pipeline because Ankara might 'get angry.'" — Theofrastos Andreopoulos, defense analyst, defensenet.gr.



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YAWN .. Caves to tyrants while abandoning many allies yet again
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell