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Fossil Fuels are a Hell of a Lot More Sustainable Than Wind and Solar

Started by Anonymous, December 13, 2021, 08:22:05 PM

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Anonymous

Alberta oil never looked better. Justine still can't admit it though.



Alberta's dirty oil is suddenly an elixir of freedom

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/nelson-albertas-dirty-oil-is-suddenly-an-elixir-of-freedom

Today, with a world panic-struck over rapidly rising energy costs and subsequent skyrocketing amounts of cash needed to fill any gas tank or supply any furnace, our once infamous product finds itself appreciated anew, leaving its previously lonely supporters somewhat agog at this development.



Nowhere was this rapid reputational turnaround more evident than in a recent business yarn, courtesy of Canada's national broadcaster, in which several energy company bigwigs were interviewed about difficulties in increasing production to thereby offset lost Russian supplies, ones now assuming Alberta's taboo mantle.



Not surprisingly to readers of this newspaper, they suggested current pipeline capacity constraints made such a task beyond even Hercules' grasp. But no, it wasn't the stating of the blatantly obvious that was so interesting: rather it was that none of the usual climate-change warriors were even quoted. And, yes, to repeat for those a little shell-shocked, this was indeed the CBC.



Actually, for the more cynical among us, this sudden change of heart was always on the cards. It just needed a catalyst to spur self-interest over social conscience.



Ah, and then there's our prime minister, still clinging to his tattered old script, even as the world looks enviously at our country's abundant natural resources during this worrying time of huge economic upheaval.



At a news conference in England, he was asked if Canada would use its petroleum reserves to lessen Europe's dependence on Russian oil.



"We need to move forward on decarbonizing our economies, but we need to do that in a way that supports people through that process and we're going to continue doing that," was his reply.



Later, some foreign journalists were left wondering why Canada's prime minister never actually answered the question.

Anonymous

Natural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson says it will be another week or two before Canada will know with certainty how much extra oil it can produce and ship to help offset bans on the use of fossil fuels from Russia.



But he says longer-term conversations about Canada partnering with Europe on renewable energy are likely more realistic and more lucrative. :crazy:

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbroNatural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson says it will be another week or two before Canada will know with certainty how much extra oil it can produce and ship to help offset bans on the use of fossil fuels from Russia.



But he says longer-term conversations about Canada partnering with Europe on renewable energy are likely more realistic and more lucrative. :crazy:
Wind and solar are how Germany became dependent on Russia for energy.

Bricktop

Quote from: iron horse jockey
Quote from: seoulbroNatural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson says it will be another week or two before Canada will know with certainty how much extra oil it can produce and ship to help offset bans on the use of fossil fuels from Russia.



But he says longer-term conversations about Canada partnering with Europe on renewable energy are likely more realistic and more lucrative. :crazy:
Wind and solar are how Germany became dependent on Russia for energy.

:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



Exactly.

Anonymous

Trudeau is an idiot and in denial.

cc

Quote from: seoulbroTrudeau is an idiot and in denial.
I don't think he is in denial itself.



He is knowingly pursuing the objectives of himself and others globally fully aware of how costly and ineffective they are



He is following a global principle to finalize absolute control over many entire  Western populations  .. irrespective of costs or practicality
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc
Quote from: seoulbroTrudeau is an idiot and in denial.
I don't think he is in denial itself.



He is knowingly pursuing the objectives of himself and others globally fully aware of how costly and ineffective they are



He is following a global principle to finalize absolute control over many entire  Western populations  .. irrespective of costs or practicality
cc, are you saying our pm knows wind and solar are not a solution, but he pursues it anyway?

cc

He has to know. They are failing everywhere to get the job done



Take Merkel as the largest example, She tried and failed and learned that wind and solar were not close to doing the job and so had to sell her very soul in going to Russia for fossil fuels (which will really bite Germany for the future)



Examples exist everywhere. He has to know they cannot even come close to meeting  demand  .. and that's leaving out the killer blow intermittency factor



There has to be ulterior motive ... part of which is keeping the West poor & powerless
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: ccHe has to know. They are failing everywhere to get the job done



Take Merkel, she tried and failed and learned that wind and solar were not close to doing the job and so had to sell her very soul in going to Russia for fossil fuels (which will really bite Germany for the future)



Examples exist everywhere. He has to know they cannot even come close to meeting  demand  .. and that's leaving out the killer blow intermittency factor



There has to be ulterior motive ... part of which is keeping the West poor & obedient
Of course Trudeau knows.

Anonymous

Quote from: ccHe has to know. They are failing everywhere to get the job done



Take Merkel as the largest example, She tried and failed and learned that wind and solar were not close to doing the job and so had to sell her very soul in going to Russia for fossil fuels (which will really bite Germany for the future)



Examples exist everywhere. He has to know they cannot even come close to meeting  demand  .. and that's leaving out the killer blow intermittency factor



There has to be ulterior motive ... part of which is keeping the West poor & powerless
Part, no ALL!!

Anonymous

Quote from: ccHe has to know. They are failing everywhere to get the job done



Take Merkel as the largest example, She tried and failed and learned that wind and solar were not close to doing the job and so had to sell her very soul in going to Russia for fossil fuels (which will really bite Germany for the future)



Examples exist everywhere. He has to know they cannot even come close to meeting  demand  .. and that's leaving out the killer blow intermittency factor



There has to be ulterior motive ... part of which is keeping the West poor & powerless
Fossils are abundant, cheap and reliable. Wind and solar sparse, expensive and unreliable. Fossils lift people out of poverty, and wind and solar move people into poverty.

Rancidmilko

There's something that has been discussed here and there but the impacts it'll have on the world will be huge, nuclear fusion



The advances have been gigantic in the last years and pretty soon they'll have the whole thing feasible.



And when that happens, just imagine how many power plants will become obsolete.



That and the push for green energy and electric cars. Russia makes most of their money with fossil fuels.



Anyway, there's so many things at stake and so many variables in this whole thing, it's absurd, almost impossible to know what's really going on



I still think all of these people are in this together. All these elites in government and the billionaires.
There\'s always a bigger fish.

Anonymous

Quote from: RancidmilkoThere's something that has been discussed here and there but the impacts it'll have on the world will be huge, nuclear fusion



The advances have been gigantic in the last years and pretty soon they'll have the whole thing feasible.



And when that happens, just imagine how many power plants will become obsolete.



That and the push for green energy and electric cars. Russia makes most of their money with fossil fuels.



Anyway, there's so many things at stake and so many variables in this whole thing, it's absurd, almost impossible to know what's really going on



I still think all of these people are in this together. All these elites in government and the billionaires.
You are frickin right they are all in this together. I am all for nuclear advancements and technological advancements in coal, and natural gas. Hydro is good too. Wind and solar are frickin useless and we keep throwing good tax money after bad.

cc

Quote from: Herman.........  I am all for nuclear advancements and technological advancements in coal, and natural gas. Hydro is good too. Wind and solar are frickin useless and we keep throwing good tax money after bad.
The only 2 that have no viable future, they invest in  :oeudC:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc
Quote from: Herman.........  I am all for nuclear advancements and technological advancements in coal, and natural gas. Hydro is good too. Wind and solar are frickin useless and we keep throwing good tax money after bad.
The only 2 that have no viable future, they invest in  :oeudC:
That's how it goes.