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Paid Sick Days And Canada's Federal Snivel Serpents

Started by Anonymous, July 18, 2014, 12:29:44 PM

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RW

Why are they sick all the time?  Because they have paid sick days?
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Anonymous

Quote from: "Real Woman"Why are they sick all the time?  Because they have paid sick days?

Agreed! If they quit and took jobs in the private sector you'd be surprised how healthy they would suddenly become. Thankfully the feds are trying to stop these sick day shenanigans.

RW

I'm not convinced it's because they have paid sick days.  Many people have paid sick days and don't take as much time.  That speaks to management/morale issues if you ask me.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "Real Woman"I'm not convinced it's because they have paid sick days.  Many people have paid sick days and don't take as much time.  That speaks to management/morale issues if you ask me.

Sure, the feds are just hiring really unhealthy people. :roll:

RW

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Quote from: "Shen Li"I know taking away paid sick days will not pay off Canada's debt. However, it is an insult to every taxpayer in this country.
QuoteThe public sector entitlement culture has got to end.



It used to be that government jobs didn't offer the same pay and benefits as private sector jobs, but at least there was job security. That was the trade off.



Now, public servants generally get better benefits than their private sector counterparts. Nothing proves this more than the ridiculous conversation currently being had over paid sick days for public sector workers.



Negotiations are underway this week between the Public Service Alliance of Canada and the Treasury Board with the latter hoping to "modernize" the sick leave program by replacing it with a new short-term disability plan.



PSAC represents roughly 100,000 workers.



"We will not bargain concessions," Chris Aylward, national executive VP of PSAC, said in a QMI Agency story. He said scaling back the program would be a "major concession."



So what, exactly, are we talking about? Here's what public sector workers receive under the current program: 1.25 paid sick days per month. That's 15 per year.



Let's be clear here: this is not about vacation days. This is three weeks of sick leave – on top of vacation days – that all workers are entitled to.



These days can be banked throughout the term of employment. Although thankfully there is no cash payout at the end.



So this is one of the perks the union is willing to take to the streets for? Taking away this luxury is one of the mean tactics those nasty old Conservatives are unleashing upon society? Give us a break!



It's common sense to get rid of this. Many people in the private sector don't get designated sick days. In fact, a lot of people in the private sector don't even get paid vacation days. Yet these are the folks who are paying the wages of public sector workers. The only major concession here is that taxpayers are forking out for this in the first place.



To want to eliminate this program isn't about judging the quality of work or type of person holding the position. It's a "no hard feelings" proposition. It's simply about creating a sustainable future.



Is it too much to ask public servants to face the same realities as the people they serve?

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I don't get bankable paid sick days..



I seldom ever miss work anyway.

RW

The days of bankable paid sick time is going out.



Hey Shen, what's the average age of federal employees?
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Anonymous

Quote from: "Real Woman"The days of bankable paid sick time is going out.



Hey Shen, what's the average age of federal employees?

Unlike the federal civil service, we never had it Real Woman..



We can bank overtime when overtime is available or an unpaid leave.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Real Woman"The days of bankable paid sick time is going out.

The days of paid sick days are going out too if Mr. Clement has his way and I hope he does.



Average age is 44.4 and 55.1% women. The feds must have the most unhealthy 44 year old women on any payroll in Canada.

RW

Average age is 44.  That means there is older and younger in that mix.  Increases in sick time is often see as a working population ages or at least that's what is being noted with other groups.



I can't believe you fight to fuck people over Shen.  It kind of blows my mind.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "Real Woman"Average age is 44.  That means there is older and younger in that mix.  Increases in sick time is often see as a working population ages or at least that's what is being noted with other groups.



I can't believe you fight to fuck people over Shen.  It kind of blows my mind.

The people getting fucked over are the taxpayers who are footing the bill for this.



My company would have an average age in mid-forties too. Specifically on the hourly rated trades side. Not enough people entering the trades. However, they seem a lot healthier than the ladies in sedentary jobs for the feds......hmmmmm!!

RW

May that is why they are unhealthy - because they have sedentary jobs :P



Oh yes, think of the children ... er taxpayers!
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Anonymous

Quote from: "Real Woman"May that is why they are unhealthy - because they have sedentary jobs :P



Oh yes, think of the children ... er taxpayers!

Sitting on their fat asses and scheming about their next sick days to coincide with K-Days in Edmonton, the Ex in Toronto or the Stampede in Calgary.

RW

Yes, and that type of thing is exclusive to government employees.   :roll:
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Renee

Quote from: "Real Woman"Yes, and that type of thing is exclusive to government employees.   :roll:


I'm not a federal employee and sit on my "fat ass" thinking about taking days off. :o  Is that wrong?
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