Hong Kong pro-democracy demonstrations

[Obvious Li]

Sorry, there's just no way your denial can alter the reality. Hundreds of thousands of Asians immigrate to the West every year. Millions more dream of it. The greatest countries in Asia are Westernized, social democratic and capitalist. The worst are communist, socialist and authoritarian.



I don't know you're bothering to try to convince me otherwise. You yourself prefer it here for you and your family. You know the West is best. You won't be moving back to anywhere in Asia.

they do that primarily for two reasons....cheap schools and it is easy to scam the generous social programs here....low hanging fruit

Hypocrisy alert! No, they don't come here to scam EI. The real money is in working and Asians prefer to work. Education isn't cheap. It's not like there's some Asian discount, and they still have to pay for airfare, big city rent, food etc. It would be much cheaper to get an education staying home.



We all know Asians here. They study and work as if their very lives depend on it.



I've known lots of Asian immigrants. They've all come here for the better opportunities, standard of living and lifestyle.

Homy..the EI broken record stchick is old.....i didn't say they came here to participate in our overly generous social programs...i said they came here to scam our overly generous social programs...of course they have other irons in the fire...but bending the rules is an art form in Asia.



of course asians work and study hard...they put whites to shame......increasing the family pie is about all an asian male was put on the earth to do...in the old days if they died trying that's ok, as long as the prosperity of the family unit has progressed under his tenure...today not so much...today's asian males spend most of their time trying to look like females....??????

[Anonymous]

Sorry, there's just no way your denial can alter the reality. Hundreds of thousands of Asians immigrate to the West every year. Millions more dream of it. The greatest countries in Asia are Westernized, social democratic and capitalist. The worst are communist, socialist and authoritarian.



I don't know you're bothering to try to convince me otherwise. You yourself prefer it here for you and your family. You know the West is best. You won't be moving back to anywhere in Asia.

they do that primarily for two reasons....cheap schools and it is easy to scam the generous social programs here....low hanging fruit

Hypocrisy alert! No, they don't come here to scam EI. The real money is in working and Asians prefer to work. Education isn't cheap. It's not like there's some Asian discount, and they still have to pay for airfare, big city rent, food etc. It would be much cheaper to get an education staying home.



We all know Asians here. They study and work as if their very lives depend on it.



I've known lots of Asian immigrants. They've all come here for the better opportunities, standard of living and lifestyle.

You would think so, but it's not cheaper. For many Korean families, education is their single biggest expense. The hakwons are full in Korea for a reason. Why else would someone sacrifice a professional career and all the opportunities that go along with that to own a laundrymat in a hellhole like Edmonton? They do it for their kids education.

today's asian males spend most of their time trying to look like females.

My Daddy makes these remarks about the young generation of boys in China all the time. I know he wanted me to be a boy, but I think he is thankful now that he sees what dandyboys the current generation of Chinese males have become. ac_unsure

[Romero]

today's asian males spend most of their time trying to look like females....??????

You must be having flashbacks about those bars in the tourist zones.

[Romero]

Students Own The Streets Of Hong Kong



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The streets of central Hong Kong remained firmly in the hands of youth on Monday as the city lurched through a full day of democracy protests that stopped traffic and led to tense standoffs with police.



This past weekend had marked the first major escalation of the long-simmering standoff between police and protesters, with authorities employing tear gas and pepper spray in attempts to scatter sometimes unruly crowds who are demanding more democratic elections. Instead of dispersing the protesters, the more militarized police response led to a major swelling of the crowds, with students and other young people firmly in control of major sections of the city by Monday night.



Riot police were ordered to stand down in many areas Monday morning. (Hong Kong time is 12 hours ahead of the U.S. East Coast.) After that, the protests took on a more festive atmosphere, with groups of teenagers posing for gas mask selfies and curling up for naps on abandoned highways.



Late into Monday night, organizers were doling out water and food as well as goggles, plastic wrap and umbrellas to ward off any resumption of tear gas assaults.



By midnight, the crowds were overwhelmingly made up of young people, many of whom said they planned to remain in the area indefinitely. The Admiralty neighborhood remained one of the focal points of protest, with huge masses of students chanting beneath banners that read "Do You Hear the People Sing?"



"Tell the world what happened to Hong Kong and tell the world China and Hong Kong are different," said 26-year-old Lui Yin-fung, a Hong Kong-born sushi chef who came to protest after work. "We are not Chinese, we are Hong Kongese."



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[Anonymous]

today's asian males spend most of their time trying to look like females....??????

You must be having flashbacks about those bars in the tourist zones.

They are everywhere.

[Anonymous]

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For months, Occupy Central's organizers, led by two college professors and a Baptist minister, said they would assemble thousands of protesters to paralyze the city's financial district if they judge China's proposal on electing Hong Kong's chief executive to be insufficiently democratic.



Their cause gained strength in June when an unofficial poll on democratic reform drew nearly 800,000 votes, followed by the large pro-democracy march. But public support for the civil disobedience appears to be waning, while the movement itself has been marred by internal discord over when to take to the streets.



In recent weeks, a countermovement backed by the business community and Beijing-friendly groups, the Alliance for Peace and Democracy, started its own petition drive to denounce civil disobedience and Occupy Central in particular.



The group says it has collected over 1.3 million signatures, far more than Occupy Central's poll on democracy in June. Those who signed the petition include Hong Kong Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying and other senior officials.



They didn't suddenly speak up; there's no magic in this," said Robert Chow, a former Hong Kong radio host and the public face of the Alliance for Peace and Democracy. "Occupy Central screwed up. This is a group of people saying they want one step less than a riot."



Mr. Chow said he is confident that a critical mass of Hong Kong people won't sympathize with the civil-disobedience movement, especially if their economic interests are at stake.



The anti-Occupy Central campaign's focus on the impact of civil disobedience has appealed to the pragmatism of many Hong Kong people. While many support democracy, they also just want to live their lives and go to work unimpeded.



"I don't care if you want democracy, even if you protest and have demonstrations. But why do you have to stop people from making a living?" said Bill Chan, a taxi driver, referring to the Occupy movement.



Bullseye, Chinese people are not Westerners. We are pragmatic; if you fuck with our ability to earn money watch support for any cause drop like a boulder off a cliff.

[Anonymous]

I was watching protesters heckling the Chinese appointed Hong Kong leader. I support the democracy protesters, but I wonder if their efforts will amount to not? China does not have a history of negotiating with people who disrupt public order. I cannot see them getting Beijing to reverse it's decision.

[Anonymous]

I was watching protesters heckling the Chinese appointed Hong Kong leader. I support the democracy protesters, but I wonder if their efforts will amount to not? China does not have a history of negotiating with people who disrupt public order. I cannot see them getting Beijing to reverse it's decision.

They won't. Didn't the West learn anything from the Arab Spring? Western occutard nonsense is not a one-size fits all thing. In fact, it doesn't even work here.

[Romero]

Close to 1,000 Torontonians took part in a rally Wednesday afternoon to show solidarity with pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong.

Chanting "We support Hong Kong," the group marched a few blocks from the University of Toronto's campus to the Hong Kong Economic and Trade Office, located at 174 St. George Street.



"What we are really hitting on right now is just to awaken everybody, not just the people in Hong Kong but all around the world," Teresa Woo, a participant in the Toronto rally, told CP24.



"We are here to support all of the students and citizens in Hong Kong who are participating in a very peaceful protest but were faced with excessive force by the police. So we are here to say no to that and we are ... fighting for true democracy."



Many of those who took part in the rally carried signs reading, "You are not alone," and "Democracy."



"I believe this will open a new negotiation with the Chinese government and I hope the Chinese government will be able to hear us, our petitions," said Kelvin Chu, a student who joined in for Wednesday's march.



"I hope in the near future they will open negotiations."



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"Here is a list of our demands. Keep your promise. That's it."

[Anonymous]

HK Businesses Starting to Suffer in Protests: Zeman

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Hong Kong retail hurt by protests

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Hong Kong retail hurt by protestsHong Kong's ongoing pro-democracy protests are not doing anything to boost the region's economy. On the contrary, retailers and real estate developers are starting to get seriously worried as the number of tour groups from mainland China has decreased by nearly a third. In addition, the protests   will affect the Golden Week, a holiday celebrating the establishment of the People's Republic of China, which starts on October 1st and usually means millions of visitors from the Chinese mainland.

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Beijing is smart and understands the situation, they will most likely can the Chief Exec very soon and then wait as everyday pragmatic Chinese people in Hong Kong get fed up with students preventing them from earning a living. This has already been decided. China isn't the West, a show of solidarity from people in the West will not change their mind.

[Romero]

The West will always rightfully support democracy and freedom, but the demonstrators in Hong Kong are indeed Eastern. They started this on their own, and they're the ones committed to it. This is about what the Hongkonese want and they want it.

[Anonymous]

The West will always rightfully support democracy and freedom, but the demonstrators in Hong Kong are indeed Eastern. They started this on their own, and they're the ones committed to it. This is about what the Hongkonese want and they want it.

The West will always lecture, harangue, browbeat, demand, etc. There is nothing new about the Western response. They are so arrogant they think their one-size-fits-all system can be universally applied. Western support for the Arab spring really worked out well didn't it? ac_rollseyes



What the West needs to realize is not every country is the same. The successful outcome of support shown to countries of Eastern/Central Europe 25 years ago cannot necessarily be transplanted to other countries.

[cc]

I don't know what your problem is. The West brought democracy to Iraq, Libya  & Afghan and they are thriving within it



 ac_smile

[Anonymous]

I don't know what your problem is. The West brought democracy to Iraq, Libya  & Afghan and they are thriving within it



 ac_smile

I forgot about that CC. People in HK and mainland China are jealous of those bastions of liberal democracy, human rights, transparency and commerce ac_toofunny  ac_lmfao

[Romero]

Violent mobs with triad links threaten Hong Kong pro-democracy protesters



Pro-democracy protesters were besieged by violent mobs looking to break up their occupation of one of Hong Kong's busiest districts on Friday, leading to chaotic skirmishes on city streets, accusations of police bias, and the shelving of negotiations with the government.



Nineteen people were arrested, at least eight of whom had "triad backgrounds", police said early on Saturday, lending weight to furious accusations from pro-democracy groups that the violence was instigated by gangs who had been paid to provoke trouble and break up the demonstrations.



The protesters, which have occupied three separate sites across the city, came under pressure on multiple fronts on Friday in what appeared to be a concerted attack. The confrontations in Kowloon's densely-populated Mong Kok, in particular, escalated into open violence as the night wore on.



Witnesses said the attackers punched and kicked protesters, while female protesters were grope and harassed.



Regardless of who the instigators were, they attracted a large group of dozens, if not hundreds, of others who joined in surrounding the pro-democracy tent, baying for blood, sometimes literally. "Kill!" was heard yelled from the crowd, while observers who tried to intervene were also threatened physically.



Many claimed they were ordinary Hong Kong residents who were fed up with how the occupation of the streets had disrupted their lives.



But the desperate mood in the eye of the storm – where the besieged tent of a few dozen pro-democracy protesters had been holding out for hours in the face of threats and abuse – turned triumphant at about 7pm as it became apparent that the tables were turning.



Word spreading on social media, including Facebook, had seen supporters arrive in droves after work. Crowds swelled to the tens of thousands, completely engulfng Nathan Road and Argyle Road.



In remarkable scenes, it was now the anti-Occupy agitators who had been surrounded, with crowds chanting loudly for police to arrest them.  



"Hong Kong people have come from all corners. They know that we have been completely surrounded," said pro-democracy protester Prince Tse, a 28-year-old barista. "We are really touched. They have just finished work and literally ran here. We can feel Hong Kong is united."



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