Madrassa Near Toronto Linked To California Shooter

[Anonymous]

Shut these fucking places down now I say.

The Canadian branch of an Islamic foundation distanced itself Monday from the woman who carried out last week's mass shooting in California following reports she had attended one of the group's schools in Pakistan.



The Al Huda Institute Canada condemned the attack by Tashfeen Malik and her husband — which left 14 people dead and 21 wounded — and expressed concerns about a possible backlash against the foundation, which has been criticized for teaching a particularly conservative strain of Islam.



"Religious conservatism is one thing. You have people who are conservative in all faiths," said Imran Haq, the institute's operations manager. "Extremism is something completely separate and there is absolutely no strain of that here."



The women-only institute, located in Mississauga, Ont., was founded in 2005 by Farhat Hashmi, a Pakistani scholar who lived in Canada at one point but hasn't resided in the country "for many years," Haq said.



It is among a number of branches across Pakistan, the U.S. and the U.K. which all teach ideology and principles she has promoted.



The Al Huda institutes have come under the spotlight after it emerged that Malik attended a branch in the Pakistani central city of Multan.



The region where the school is located is home to thousands of extremist seminaries, with hundreds of them linked to al-Qaida and the Pakistani Taliban.



While Hashmi has been criticized for being very conservative, her schools, however, have no known links to extremists.



Malik spent more than a year at Al Huda, taking classes six days a week, but didn't finish a two-year course to study the Qur'an, its translation and interpretation, the Pakistani school's spokeswoman Farrukh Chaudhry said.



She was a student there from April 17, 2013 until May 3, 2014, when she handed in her last paper in the first-year curriculum, the spokeswoman said. Malik said she was going to get married and move to America, and promised to complete her studies by mail correspondence, but that never happened, Chaudhry said.



"I have talked to her teachers, her classmates and everybody says she was a hardworking, friendly, helpful and obedient student," Chaudhry said, adding that "no one ever noticed any signs of radicalization."



In a statement issued Monday, the Al Huda International Welfare Foundation said it seemed Malik was "unable to understand the beautiful message of the Qur'an."



"We cannot be held responsible for personal acts of any of our students," said the statement posted on Hasmi's and the foundation's website. "The organization stands to promote the peaceful message of Islam and denounce extremism, violence and acts of terrorism."



As the details about Malik's connection to the Pakistani school emerged, the Canadian branch of the Al Huda network also defended its teachings, which it said did not preach extremism.



"We don't have a very strong formal link with Al Huda Pakistan," Haq said. "We are a religious operation within Canada and we are very much a part of that fabric and we feel like that, except that when you see stuff like this, in light of recent events, we start to get a little worried."



Haq said the non-profit institute is looking at increasing security around its campus as its students and staff have expressed concerns about potential hostility towards Muslims.



Hashmi, who has given lectures at the institute in the past is "well-received" by students, added Haq, who said her teachings are "a lot more balanced than people give her credit for."



"These are teachings that are very relevant to Muslims all around the world," he said. "I think it's up to every individual and their level of faith to kind of evaluate what she teaches and where on the spectrum it lies, but whether it's conservative or not, it definitely doesn't condone or promote the kinds of things we're seeing around the world."



Hashmi, who has a doctorate in Islamic studies from the University of Glasgow in Scotland, said in a 2010 interview that Al Huda is "a kind of women's empowerment program." Her critics have said she promotes an oppressive form of Islam.



Farzana Hassan, a liberal Muslim who is on the board of directors with the Muslim Canadian Congress, recalls attending one of Hashmi's lectures out of curiosity and said she heard a "very fundamentalist brand of Islam," which includes condoning polygamy and the segregation of women, among other things.



She also knows women who attended some of Hashmi's talks and seemed enthralled by her.



"They just say that she is very knowledgeable and she is actually teaching the pure Islam. What they understand as the pure Islam is something very, very conservative and fundamentalist," she said. "When you have that kind of Islam, it's a package deal. It's not just the wearing of the burka and the stoning to death for adultery...it's also jihad."



Malik and her American-born husband Syed Farook were killed in a shootout with police hours after they opened fire with assault rifles on a gathering of Farook's colleagues last Wednesday in San Bernardino, Calif. The FBI is investigating the shooting as an act of terrorism.

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[Anonymous]

What's a madrassa?

 ac_dunno

[Anonymous]

A madrassa is an Islamic religious school. Many of the Taliban were educated in Saudi-financed madrassas in Pakistan that teach Wahhabism, a particularly austere and rigid form of Islam which is rooted in Saudi Arabia. They are breeding grounds for anti-Western hatred and violence.

[Anonymous]

A madrassa is an Islamic religious school. Many of the Taliban were educated in Saudi-financed madrassas in Pakistan that teach Wahhabism, a particularly austere and rigid form of Islam which is rooted in Saudi Arabia. They are breeding grounds for anti-Western hatred and violence.

 

[Anonymous]

^Oh yeah, they are here and they are funded with Saudi money.

[Anonymous]

Shut these fucking places down now I say.

The Canadian branch of an Islamic foundation distanced itself Monday from the woman who carried out last week's mass shooting in California following reports she had attended one of the group's schools in Pakistan.



The Al Huda Institute Canada condemned the attack by Tashfeen Malik and her husband — which left 14 people dead and 21 wounded — and expressed concerns about a possible backlash against the foundation, which has been criticized for teaching a particularly conservative strain of Islam.



"Religious conservatism is one thing. You have people who are conservative in all faiths," said Imran Haq, the institute's operations manager. "Extremism is something completely separate and there is absolutely no strain of that here."



The women-only institute, located in Mississauga, Ont., was founded in 2005 by Farhat Hashmi, a Pakistani scholar who lived in Canada at one point but hasn't resided in the country "for many years," Haq said.



It is among a number of branches across Pakistan, the U.S. and the U.K. which all teach ideology and principles she has promoted.



The Al Huda institutes have come under the spotlight after it emerged that Malik attended a branch in the Pakistani central city of Multan.



The region where the school is located is home to thousands of extremist seminaries, with hundreds of them linked to al-Qaida and the Pakistani Taliban.



While Hashmi has been criticized for being very conservative, her schools, however, have no known links to extremists.



Malik spent more than a year at Al Huda, taking classes six days a week, but didn't finish a two-year course to study the Qur'an, its translation and interpretation, the Pakistani school's spokeswoman Farrukh Chaudhry said.



She was a student there from April 17, 2013 until May 3, 2014, when she handed in her last paper in the first-year curriculum, the spokeswoman said. Malik said she was going to get married and move to America, and promised to complete her studies by mail correspondence, but that never happened, Chaudhry said.



"I have talked to her teachers, her classmates and everybody says she was a hardworking, friendly, helpful and obedient student," Chaudhry said, adding that "no one ever noticed any signs of radicalization."



In a statement issued Monday, the Al Huda International Welfare Foundation said it seemed Malik was "unable to understand the beautiful message of the Qur'an."



"We cannot be held responsible for personal acts of any of our students," said the statement posted on Hasmi's and the foundation's website. "The organization stands to promote the peaceful message of Islam and denounce extremism, violence and acts of terrorism."



As the details about Malik's connection to the Pakistani school emerged, the Canadian branch of the Al Huda network also defended its teachings, which it said did not preach extremism.



"We don't have a very strong formal link with Al Huda Pakistan," Haq said. "We are a religious operation within Canada and we are very much a part of that fabric and we feel like that, except that when you see stuff like this, in light of recent events, we start to get a little worried."



Haq said the non-profit institute is looking at increasing security around its campus as its students and staff have expressed concerns about potential hostility towards Muslims.



Hashmi, who has given lectures at the institute in the past is "well-received" by students, added Haq, who said her teachings are "a lot more balanced than people give her credit for."



"These are teachings that are very relevant to Muslims all around the world," he said. "I think it's up to every individual and their level of faith to kind of evaluate what she teaches and where on the spectrum it lies, but whether it's conservative or not, it definitely doesn't condone or promote the kinds of things we're seeing around the world."



Hashmi, who has a doctorate in Islamic studies from the University of Glasgow in Scotland, said in a 2010 interview that Al Huda is "a kind of women's empowerment program." Her critics have said she promotes an oppressive form of Islam.



Farzana Hassan, a liberal Muslim who is on the board of directors with the Muslim Canadian Congress, recalls attending one of Hashmi's lectures out of curiosity and said she heard a "very fundamentalist brand of Islam," which includes condoning polygamy and the segregation of women, among other things.



She also knows women who attended some of Hashmi's talks and seemed enthralled by her.



"They just say that she is very knowledgeable and she is actually teaching the pure Islam. What they understand as the pure Islam is something very, very conservative and fundamentalist," she said. "When you have that kind of Islam, it's a package deal. It's not just the wearing of the burka and the stoning to death for adultery...it's also jihad."



Malik and her American-born husband Syed Farook were killed in a shootout with police hours after they opened fire with assault rifles on a gathering of Farook's colleagues last Wednesday in San Bernardino, Calif. The FBI is investigating the shooting as an act of terrorism.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/canadian-school-concerned-about-being-linked-to-california-shooter/article27633651/">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... e27633651/">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/canadian-school-concerned-about-being-linked-to-california-shooter/article27633651/

Is a madrassa like a Sunday school for Muslims?

[cc]

they are schools teaching pure Fundyism to kiddies ... the worse of the worse

[Anonymous]

they are schools teaching pure Fundyism to kiddies ... the worse of the worse

Get them young and brainwash them I see. How many days a week do kids go to them and how long is each brainwashing session?

[Anonymous]

they are schools teaching pure Fundyism to kiddies ... the worse of the worse

 

[cc]

CBC, out-scooped on this by the globe, ran a great deal on this on the National





Wait Wait - There's more murderous planning to the Cali story and this "Sweet" couple



bombs were set to go off when first responders arrived



fortunately they failed to go off



Should not be surprising - several past islamo-bombings contained this element

Bali being the best known case where they timed 10 min after + 20 minutes after

[Anonymous]

CBC, out-scooped on this by the globe, ran a great deal on this on the National





Wait Wait - There's more murderous planning to the Cali story and this "Sweet" couple



bombs were set to go off when first responders arrived



fortunately they failed to go off



Should not be surprising - several past islamo-bombings contained this element

Bali being the best known case where they timed 10 min after + 20 minutes after

I think the Norwegian shooter and bomber did that too cc la femme..



He set off bombs in the downtown core of Oslo to divert attention from where he shot dozens of adolescents.

[cc]

Yes he did use car bomb in Oslo then started shooting on the island a cpl of hours later. Representing no group, only an ideal of his about immigration,  he killed a lot of people in both locations



The tactic I'm referring to is the common islamic group  practice of hitting an area or event and leaving bombs (timed or triggered by a watcher) to kill cops and others who come soon after to try to save people. This tactic has been used  several times  around the world and was attempted in the Cali event

[cc]

OK, out of the woodwork slithers  this  worm:



CBC - http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/al-huda-islamic-institute-students-isis-syria-mississauga-1.3354945">4 female students who went to Syria to join ISIS attended Mississauga school



It's unclear exactly when the Canadian students travelled overseas, but sources have confirmed they all left in the last two years after attending the school founded by controversial female Islamic scholar Farhat Hashmi.



Hashmi's ultra-conservative teachings in lectures and online have faced criticism for promoting an extreme wifely subservience to a husband.



The school's founder, however, is not a Canadian resident, despite several media reports to the contrary, sources told CBC News. Hashmi has not been in Canada for three years, those sources said.



More than 160 kindergarten to Grade 6 students attend the Mississauga school every day. On evenings and weekends, the school offers adult classes.





And we allow and even assist this fundy crap to grow in our country because ...................?

[Anonymous]

OK, out of the woodwork slithers  this  worm:



CBC - http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/al-huda-islamic-institute-students-isis-syria-mississauga-1.3354945">4 female students who went to Syria to join ISIS attended Mississauga school



It's unclear exactly when the Canadian students travelled overseas, but sources have confirmed they all left in the last two years after attending the school founded by controversial female Islamic scholar Farhat Hashmi.



Hashmi's ultra-conservative teachings in lectures and online have faced criticism for promoting an extreme wifely subservience to a husband.



The school's founder, however, is not a Canadian resident, despite several media reports to the contrary, sources told CBC News. Hashmi has not been in Canada for three years, those sources said.



More than 160 kindergarten to Grade 6 students attend the Mississauga school every day. On evenings and weekends, the school offers adult classes.





And we allow and even assist this fundy crap to grow in our country because ...................?

Shut the fucking hate lab down now.

[cc]

The thing is, there are more of these. And govt's have no clue, and worse, no desire to get a clue nor especially to do anything about it



as we sleepwalk slowly toward a VERY BAD ultimate ending to this whole islamic thing