Justice Scalia leaves opening

[Anonymous]

I suppose when it is all said and done they should just listen to Joe Biden....

[Renee]

I suppose when it is all said and done they should just listen to Joe Biden....

[RW]

Presidents should do their fucking jobs and fill holes in the SC bench like they're supposed to.



This shouldn't be up for debate.

[Renee]

Presidents should do their fucking jobs and fill holes in the SC bench like they're supposed to.



This shouldn't be up for debate.

Presidents don't fill the hole, the Senate does. Presidents can only nominate.



That's the way it's been done for over 200 fucking years.



This is an election year and half the senators are on the campaign trail kissing hands and shaking babies. With most of the senators away the legislative agenda is full and the Senate is in recess more than a nonelection year. There is no urgent reason to hold hearings on a nominee. Besides Odumbo has yet to even begin the process.



Election year politics needs to be kept out of this situation as much as possible and that requires that the process of nominating and approving a new supreme court justice be performed after the elections.



I'm really getting tired of the bullshit from people who don't even have a horse in this race. The situation will be rectified one way or the other. It's not like the US government is new at this.



Here's a question....do any of the American members of this forum tell you canucks how to run your country???? Frankly I couldn't give a damn what you guys do BECAUSE it's none of my business. Christ, you people act like you live here and this situation is somehow going to ruin your day. :001_rolleyes:

[RW]

You know what I meant.  This is called news Renee and what is being said is fair comment.



Here's a better question...would I whine like a fucking baby if an American made a comment about how Canada is run?  No, I wouldn't.  I am not that patriotically defensive about my country's political process or in this case, lack thereof.



In my humble Canadian opinion, there should not be such a media shit show over the President carrying out his duties regardless of it being an election year or not.  I don't care if the president is a Democrat or Republican.



For future record, I will comment on whatever the fuck I feel like commenting on including US politics.  If you have a problem with that, go take it out on one of our older posters hahaha

[Renee]

You know what I meant.  This is called news Renee and what is being said is fair comment.



Here's a better question...would I whine like a fucking baby if an American made a comment about how Canada is run?  No, I wouldn't.  I am not that patriotically defensive about my country's political process or in this case, lack thereof.



In my humble Canadian opinion, there should not be such a media shit show over the President carrying out his duties regardless of it being an election year or not.  I don't care if the president is a Democrat or Republican.



For future record, I will comment on whatever the fuck I feel like commenting on including US politics.  If you have a problem with that, go take it out on one of our older posters hahaha

I'm not being defensive. I'm just trying to reconcile in my mind why there is a fixation on US politics especially if it effects no one outside the US. When it comes to this forum it's like the US is under a microscope, FFS.



Conversely, we here in the US do not give one single fuck one way or the other what you do up there on your political front. When it comes down to it, the WORLD doesn't care if you choose your leaders thru some kind of elective process or via a radio call in show similar to the way concert tickets are given away. But for some reason, anything that happens south of your border flips your collective busybody, bullshit switch. And don't give me this fucking crap that the reason is because it's "news". Let's call it what it is shall we, it's just another excuse to wag your fingers at something happening in the US that doesn't meet your approval.



Just answer this.....what is it to you when or how the next SC justice gets appointed? Is it going to make a difference to you, does it affect your life?........My guess would be "No". Then you can explain to me why this is "news" for people outside the US to fixate upon.



The "media shit show" has nothing to do with the process. It's there solely to fuel partisanship. The process of selecting a new supreme court justice will take place with or without it and ONLY when the executive and legislative branches of the US government are in a position to do so. The media noise is nothing but a sideshow for fools to feed upon.



BTW, don't tell me who to take my shit out on. I'll punch anyone I fucking please. If I want to be a dickhead I'll just do it. I don't need your permission. I'll post what I want and where I want and how I want, bitch. ac_biggrin











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[RW]

Typical American bullshit.  Newsflash Renee.  The US pukes its political agenda all over the goddamn world and you sit there wondering why we are so interested in what goes on in your country.  You guys play world police, have veto power in world governance, work at setting global policy and yet you sit there bitching about how the rest of us take interest in what goes on within your borders.  How fucking myopic and clueless can you be?



And I have to apologise that Canadian politics isn't nearly as much of ridiculous shit show as yours is.  I know this because I get more US channels up here on cable than I do Canadian ones.  If you don't like your news rubbed in the face of everyone else, take it up with your greedy, twisted media rather than getting up my Canadian ass about it.



As for permission, it seems anyone who isn't American needs your permission to discuss US matters.  Why is that?  You have a monopoly on US discussions?  If you don't give a fuck what anyone else has to say, stop acting like a butt hurt bitch every time a non-American mentions your fucking country.



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[Renee]

Okay, show me how our internal politics such as this supreme court issue is puking our agenda all over world. Show me where this issue has anything to do with world governance. The truth is, and let's not fuck around; it's the internal squabbling within the US gov that interests you nosy neighbors the most. It's our soap opera like escapades that you people can't ignore. Why is that? There are other crazier things happening in the internal politics of other countries but that doesn't seem to interest you. Why is that? Your defensive indignation on being called out on this issue has me genuinely curious.



Granted our foreign policy is worth criticizing; it sucks, it impacts a lot more than just the US. Believe me no one more than me would love to see the US change how it deals with the rest of the world. I would love to see our foreign policy go back to where it was pre WWII. But that's not ever going to happen. The power vacuum it would leave in its wake would be worse than when the British empire finally breathed it's last at the 1950s.



Also lets not kid ourselves, the entire west is tied to the US in almost every way imaginable. The interests of almost every country in the west align with the interests of the US. In todays world every one of you wants at least a small piece of the pie that Uncle Sam has his fingers in. Deny that.... and it would be a bald faced lie.



BTW, you should probably be thankful that you have so many US news outlets. Because let's face it.....without them you would have nothing to bitch about except maybe the price of poontang or poutine or whatever that nasty glop is called. Also since you sound so upset by the antics of the US media machine, maybe changing the channel is an option for you. That's what I do when it gets to be too much. You do have buttons on your remote or your TV don't you?



Furthermore you don't need my permission to discuss issues and events in the US; I never said or even indicated that you did. All I ask is that you have the courtesy to remove your head from your ass before doing so.



You still haven't answered my question. All I got was defensive indignation and a harangue eluding to how intrusive US foreign policy is. I can appreciate your feelings on this but I think you need to look at the issue at hand from my perspective as well. To me you are that guy that likes to look into his or her neighbors windows to see what they are doing. Truth is, that guy is an annoying mother fucker. ac_biggrin

[RW]

Your questions:  Just answer this.....what is it to you when or how the next SC justice gets appointed? Is it going to make a difference to you, does it affect your life?........My guess would be "No". Then you can explain to me why this is "news" for people outside the US to fixate upon.



I take an interest in law and legal proceedings on both sides of the border.  Is it going to have a profound impact on my life?  No.  It is just a matter of interest like many things in my life.  Are you suggesting people shouldn't have interests outside their borders?



This Supreme Court issue was on Canadian news.  I believe I also caught it on British world news.  How the US governs itself has a lot to do with world governance.  If you guys can't get your governance shit together on your own soil, Wtf business do you have on influencing other countries'?



Personally, I can do without the rightie/leftie shit show.  I think yours is more ridiculous than most.  It's kind of like watching a train wreck - a very expensive train wreck.  But to answer you, the US is our closest partner in many respects.  What happens in the US directly affects as at an alarming rate.  You aren't a fucking island, eh.



I'm also pretty sure I'm not the one with my head up my ass, nor am I the one acting like a fucking baby every time someone mentions my country.  I'm not that insecure.



As for looking into other people's windows, maybe you guys should try it once in a while.  I promise I'll put clothes on :D

[Renee]

Your questions:  Just answer this.....what is it to you when or how the next SC justice gets appointed? Is it going to make a difference to you, does it affect your life?........My guess would be "No". Then you can explain to me why this is "news" for people outside the US to fixate upon.



I take an interest in law and legal proceedings on both sides of the border.  Is it going to have a profound impact on my life?  No.  It is just a matter of interest like many things in my life.  Are you suggesting people shouldn't have interests outside their borders?



This Supreme Court issue was on Canadian news.  I believe I also caught it on British world news.  How the US governs itself has a lot to do with world governance.  If you guys can't get your governance shit together on your own soil, Wtf business do you have on influencing other countries'?



Personally, I can do without the rightie/leftie shit show.  I think yours is more ridiculous than most.  It's kind of like watching a train wreck - a very expensive train wreck.  But to answer you, the US is our closest partner in many respects.  What happens in the US directly affects as at an alarming rate.  You aren't a fucking island, eh.



I'm also pretty sure I'm not the one with my head up my ass, nor am I the one acting like a fucking baby every time someone mentions my country.  I'm not that insecure.



As for looking into other people's windows, maybe you guys should try it once in a while.  I promise I'll put clothes on :D

Fair enough answer but if I were you I wouldn't worry so much on whether we can get our shit right. Not to be condescending but we have been at this "governing ourselves" thing a little longer than you guys and guess what.....we are still here and with the same form of government we started out with. Shit we even survived a 4 year civil war and the federal government is still intact so don't you worry about us.



Look, I'm not trying to stop you from taking an interest in US politics, I'm just curious why you find the US political process so fascinating. It's not like we have fist fights during our legislative procedures or perpetrate obscene verbal attacks on opposing representatives like in other so called civilized countries. Hell, we don't even elect former porn stars to high office. I'm still not sure why issues taking place in the US that have little or no impact on you or anyone else outside the US should be of interest.



 On this issue and thread alone you stated your point of view multiple times. No offense but I think we all got it a few pages back that you think this issue is a circus. But the reasons why nominations of this nature are not done during partisan election years has been explained. I'm sorry that your opinion differs or you dont understand why but the political reality and reasons behind it trump (no pun intended) what you or I think.



The reality is both sides of the political aisle have been caught agreeing that the process of nominating a supreme court justice should not be done in an election year and there are valid reasons for it. The number one reason is the avoidance of seemingly partsian politics. Right now polls show that a majority of American people are not happy with the direction the country is taking. It is only common sense to wait and see how the up coming presidential election shakes out before a nominee is brought before Senate. A nomination by the Obama admin will be seen as a perpetuation of a direction that is being rejected by the American people. Secondly, as I touched upon previously, in an election year Congress is in recess more so than in a non-election year. Truth is unless a nominee is thrown before the senate in the next month, there will probably not be enough time to devote to confirmation hearings before the summer recess and the final fall campaign push. And before you say that they have plenty of time, let us remember that even in the best of situations the wheels of government move very slowly.



As far as the US not being an island goes.....I think I already stated that pretty clearly in my previous post. Most western nations are entangled side by side with US interests abroad and in some cases domestically but really, whose fault is that?

[Anonymous]

Your questions:  Just answer this.....what is it to you when or how the next SC justice gets appointed? Is it going to make a difference to you, does it affect your life?........My guess would be "No". Then you can explain to me why this is "news" for people outside the US to fixate upon.



I take an interest in law and legal proceedings on both sides of the border.  Is it going to have a profound impact on my life?  No.  It is just a matter of interest like many things in my life.  Are you suggesting people shouldn't have interests outside their borders?



This Supreme Court issue was on Canadian news.  I believe I also caught it on British world news.  How the US governs itself has a lot to do with world governance.  If you guys can't get your governance shit together on your own soil, Wtf business do you have on influencing other countries'?



Personally, I can do without the rightie/leftie shit show.  I think yours is more ridiculous than most.  It's kind of like watching a train wreck - a very expensive train wreck.  But to answer you, the US is our closest partner in many respects.  What happens in the US directly affects as at an alarming rate.  You aren't a fucking island, eh.



I'm also pretty sure I'm not the one with my head up my ass, nor am I the one acting like a fucking baby every time someone mentions my country.  I'm not that insecure.



As for looking into other people's windows, maybe you guys should try it once in a while.  I promise I'll put clothes on :D

Fair enough answer but if I were you I wouldn't worry so much on whether we can get our shit right. Not to be condescending but we have been at this "governing ourselves" thing a little longer than you guys and guess what.....we are still here and with the same form of government we started out with. Shit we even survived a 4 year civil war and the federal government is still intact so don't you worry about us.



Look, I'm not trying to stop you from taking an interest in US politics, I'm just curious why you find the US political process so fascinating. It's not like we have fist fights during our legislative procedures or perpetrate obscene verbal attacks on opposing representatives like in other so called civilized countries. Hell, we don't even elect former porn starts to high office. I'm still not sure why issues taking place in the US that have little or no impact on you or anyone else outside the US should be of interest.



 On this issue and thread alone you stated your point of view multiple times. No offense but I think we all got it a few pages back that you think this issue is a circus. But the reasons why nominations of this nature are not done during partisan election years has been explained. I'm sorry that your opinion differs or you dont understand why but the political reality and reasons behind it trump (no pun intended) what you or I think.



The reality is both sides of the political aisle have been caught agreeing that the process of nominating a supreme court justice should not be done in an election year and there are valid reasons for it. The number one reason is the avoidance of seemingly partsian politics. Right now polls show that a majority of American people are not happy with the direction the country is taking. It is only common sense to wait and see how the up coming presidential election shakes out before a nominee is brought before Senate. A nomination by the Obama admin will be seen as a perpetuation of a direction that is being rejected by the American people. Secondly, as I touched upon previously, in an election year Congress is in recess more so than in a non-election year. Truth is unless a nominee is thrown before the senate in the next month, there will probably not be enough time to devote to confirmation hearings before the summer recess and the final fall campaign push. And before you say that they have plenty of time, let us remember that even in the best of situations the wheels of government move very slowly.



As far as the US not being an island goes.....I think I already stated that pretty clearly in my previous post. Most western nations are entangled side by side with US interests abroad and in some cases domestically but really, whose fault is that?

That would be some nefarious members of Taiwan's legislative yuan..



The Kuomintang party has triad connections.

[Anonymous]

"Renee"

 I'm just curious why you find the US political process so fascinating. I'm still not sure why issues taking place in the US that have little or no impact on you or anyone else outside the US should be of interest.

 

I really don't get the interest in this either. Nominate in an election year, don't nominate, who fucking cares. Certainly shouldn't be anyone who is  not a US passport holder. When you look at the shit that is happening in other Western countries, the US is a sea of stability.  Sweden is being overrun by rapist jihadis and whether Obama nominates or not gets more attention? WTF??

[RW]

Why do you care what goes on in other countries Shen?  Sweden's rapist problem doesn't affect you.

[Renee]

"Renee"

 I'm just curious why you find the US political process so fascinating. I'm still not sure why issues taking place in the US that have little or no impact on you or anyone else outside the US should be of interest.

 

I really don't get the interest in this either. Nominate in an election year, don't nominate, who fucking cares. Certainly shouldn't be anyone who is  not a US passport holder. When you look at the shit that is happening in other Western countries, the US is a sea of stability.  Sweden is being overrun by rapist jihadis and whether Obama nominates or not gets more attention? WTF??

Exactly my point but unfortunately some people around here are so fixated on everything the US does that important global issues just have to take a back seat.



But hey, because of this media hyped, political disagreement over when a Supreme Court nomination should put forth, it might be an indication that the US can't govern itself and the sky might fall.



I wonder how the world survived while we wrestled with this same issue on and off throughout or history?   It must have been tough on you guys out there and please accept my heartfelt apologies.  



But I'm not going to begrudge these people their little trips to lala land. If creating an mental image of a train wreck and then labeling as the United States of America feeds their wolf, they are more than welcome to do so. They just need to remember not to get so uppity when they get questioned about the reasoning behind their little obsession.

[RW]

You're not going to bully me out of making comments about American legal/political issues so save the bleating.