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Adolf Oliver Bush

The fuck? If anything the NDP went further to the right in an attempt to horn in on the middle class vote. I remember Angry Tommy floating the idea of a coalition between the Liberals and the NDP when Steve Harper was still making his pile, and Tom getting his shit shoved in with a flat out "no" from Truedeaup's advisors.



And in Ottawa at least, the prevailing opinion was that the PC's were a bunch of corrupt cunts double dipping into the public purse (anyone remember Mike Duffy's travel expenses scandal?) and the only chance they had of righting the wrong was to get Pierre's sprogling (or Castro's depending on who you talk to) to bring some of that egalitarian leftie magic to the table. Which has proven to be an even bigger money grift than anything the PCs had authored.



I remember thinking at the time that Truedeaup was far too young to be getting into it. Another fifteen years I thought and then... maybe? But no, they just HAD to kick Harper to the curb. Frankly, I wouldn't have bothered pissing on either of them if they were on fire...
Her fucking fupa looked like a pair of ass cheeks... like someone naked ran into her head first and got stuck. She was like "come eat me out" and I was like "nah I think I'll go snort some anthrax and light myself on fire instead"

 - Biggie Smiles

DKG

Quote from: "Adolf Oliver Bush" post_id=507310 time=1689334387 user_id=3409
The fuck? If anything the NDP went further to the right in an attempt to horn in on the middle class vote. I remember Angry Tommy floating the idea of a coalition between the Liberals and the NDP when Steve Harper was still making his pile, and Tom getting his shit shoved in with a flat out "no" from Truedeaup's advisors.



And in Ottawa at least, the prevailing opinion was that the PC's were a bunch of corrupt cunts double dipping into the public purse (anyone remember Mike Duffy's travel expenses scandal?) and the only chance they had of righting the wrong was to get Pierre's sprogling (or Castro's depending on who you talk to) to bring some of that egalitarian leftie magic to the table. Which has proven to be an even bigger money grift than anything the PCs had authored.



I remember thinking at the time that Truedeaup was far too young to be getting into it. Another fifteen years I thought and then... maybe? But no, they just HAD to kick Harper to the curb. Frankly, I wouldn't have bothered pissing on either of them if they were on fire...

Tom Mulcair retired from politics in 2016, but stayed on as leader until they chose Singh in 2017. Trudeau won a big majority in 2015. Why would he suggest a merger with a party that just won a majority? Any PM would laugh at him.

JOE

Quote from: DKG post_id=507333 time=1689345912 user_id=3390


Tom Mulcair retired from politics in 2016, but stayed on as leader until they chose Singh in 2017. Trudeau won a big majority in 2015. Why would he suggest a merger with a party that just won a majority? Any PM would laugh at him.


...it's still not outside of the realm of possibility, DKG.



As Western nations inclding Canada become more polarized, one of these parties could gradually disappear.



Aren't the NDP and  Liberals floating the idea in Ontario?



I'd rather that the NDP doesnt become part of the Liberals tho cuz they are too left wing/socialist for my taste.



We actually need some free enterprise and initiative to make the economy grow.



The trouble with North American socialists is they often want to give something away for nothing wiithout having any idea how to pay for it. Plus all their goddam fringe groups asociated with the NDP.



in the USA, the progressives/AOC types should really have their own party and not part of the Democrats. The progressive drag them down  & want these expensive programs for niche groups. Similarly in Canada Jagemeet Singh has too much influence over the Liberal Party.

DKG

When Mulcair was running for leadership of the NDP he was strongly opposed to a formal merger with the Grits. When it became obvious that the NDP would lose it's official opposition status before the 2015 election Mucair floated the idea of a coalition with the Liberals, but Trudeau said never as long as Mulcair was it's leader.

Herman

Good job Justine.

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Adolf Oliver Bush

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Quote from: "Adolf Oliver Bush" post_id=507310 time=1689334387 user_id=3409
The fuck? If anything the NDP went further to the right in an attempt to horn in on the middle class vote. I remember Angry Tommy floating the idea of a coalition between the Liberals and the NDP when Steve Harper was still making his pile, and Tom getting his shit shoved in with a flat out "no" from Truedeaup's advisors.



And in Ottawa at least, the prevailing opinion was that the PC's were a bunch of corrupt cunts double dipping into the public purse (anyone remember Mike Duffy's travel expenses scandal?) and the only chance they had of righting the wrong was to get Pierre's sprogling (or Castro's depending on who you talk to) to bring some of that egalitarian leftie magic to the table. Which has proven to be an even bigger money grift than anything the PCs had authored.



I remember thinking at the time that Truedeaup was far too young to be getting into it. Another fifteen years I thought and then... maybe? But no, they just HAD to kick Harper to the curb. Frankly, I wouldn't have bothered pissing on either of them if they were on fire...

Tom Mulcair retired from politics in 2016, but stayed on as leader until they chose Singh in 2017. Trudeau won a big majority in 2015. Why would he suggest a merger with a party that just won a majority? Any PM would laugh at him.

Ahh but he didn't suggest a merger with a party that just won a majority, he suggested a merger with a party that had yet to win a majority. Big difference.



The liberals were counting on the NDP voters to vote Liberal under the presumption that the NDP couldn't carry it on their own, much the same as Hillary supporters were heard to chant "blue no matter who" while doing everything in their power to fuck over Bernie Sanders. Powerbrokers know they can rely on the voting public to compromise their principles and if you think it's a problem confined to the Liberal party of Canada, you would do well to take a step back and look a little more carefully at the reasons why you support DeSantis over Trump.



In the end, the Liberals assertion they could do it without Angry Tommy and they were right. I knew quite a few progs in Ottawa; they preferred Mulcair to Trudeau, but settled for what they believed was second best. And if we are to be honest here, the incumbent Harper government was corrupt as hell, maybe not to provincial Bloc Quebecois levels, but definitely running a close second. Of course history has shown that the Liberals were only too happy to say "hold my beer" on this score.



I remember hearing about the proposal of a coalition and thinking the Liberal Party were gambling on public sentiment when Trudeau rejected it. He was very wet behind the ears at the time, politically speaking, and as I indicated in my previous post I expect the refusal was not his, but one that was instructed him by other interests within his own party. In retrospect, possibly external influences as well.



Whatever you might think about his policies, Mulcair was definitively a stronger presence than Trudeau. Perhaps it was that which scared the Libs and more importantly their donor class. An easily manipulated drama teacher with a pretty face and questionable dalliances with his students makes for an easier puppet than a hawkish bearded political veteran with rhetoric and a temper.
Her fucking fupa looked like a pair of ass cheeks... like someone naked ran into her head first and got stuck. She was like "come eat me out" and I was like "nah I think I'll go snort some anthrax and light myself on fire instead"

 - Biggie Smiles

DKG

Quote from: "Adolf Oliver Bush" post_id=507803 time=1689516092 user_id=3409
Quote from: DKG post_id=507333 time=1689345912 user_id=3390


Tom Mulcair retired from politics in 2016, but stayed on as leader until they chose Singh in 2017. Trudeau won a big majority in 2015. Why would he suggest a merger with a party that just won a majority? Any PM would laugh at him.

Ahh but he didn't suggest a merger with a party that just won a majority, he suggested a merger with a party that had yet to win a majority. Big difference.



The liberals were counting on the NDP voters to vote Liberal under the presumption that the NDP couldn't carry it on their own, much the same as Hillary supporters were heard to chant "blue no matter who" while doing everything in their power to fuck over Bernie Sanders. Powerbrokers know they can rely on the voting public to compromise their principles and if you think it's a problem confined to the Liberal party of Canada, you would do well to take a step back and look a little more carefully at the reasons why you support DeSantis over Trump.



In the end, the Liberals assertion they could do it without Angry Tommy and they were right. I knew quite a few progs in Ottawa; they preferred Mulcair to Trudeau, but settled for what they believed was second best. And if we are to be honest here, the incumbent Harper government was corrupt as hell, maybe not to provincial Bloc Quebecois levels, but definitely running a close second. Of course history has shown that the Liberals were only too happy to say "hold my beer" on this score.



I remember hearing about the proposal of a coalition and thinking the Liberal Party were gambling on public sentiment when Trudeau rejected it. He was very wet behind the ears at the time, politically speaking, and as I indicated in my previous post I expect the refusal was not his, but one that was instructed him by other interests within his own party. In retrospect, possibly external influences as well.



Whatever you might think about his policies, Mulcair was definitively a stronger presence than Trudeau. Perhaps it was that which scared the Libs and more importantly their donor class. An easily manipulated drama teacher with a pretty face and questionable dalliances with his students makes for an easier puppet than a hawkish bearded political veteran with rhetoric and a temper.

But he knew his party was going to be spanked by Canadians in the 2015 election and he was right. Four years earlier when his party ws high in the poils he vehemently oppsosed a Lb-NDP merger.

Adolf Oliver Bush

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Ahh but he didn't suggest a merger with a party that just won a majority, he suggested a merger with a party that had yet to win a majority. Big difference.



The liberals were counting on the NDP voters to vote Liberal under the presumption that the NDP couldn't carry it on their own... Powerbrokers know they can rely on the voting public to compromise their principles... In the end, the Liberals assertion they could do it without Angry Tommy and they were right. I knew quite a few progs in Ottawa; they preferred Mulcair to Trudeau, but settled for what they believed was second best.

But he knew his party was going to be spanked by Canadians in the 2015 election and he was right.

Thank you for reiterating my point.
Her fucking fupa looked like a pair of ass cheeks... like someone naked ran into her head first and got stuck. She was like "come eat me out" and I was like "nah I think I'll go snort some anthrax and light myself on fire instead"

 - Biggie Smiles

DKG

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Quote from: DKG post_id=507808 time=1689517373 user_id=3390


But he knew his party was going to be spanked by Canadians in the 2015 election and he was right.

Thank you for reiterating my point.

Losers always want a merger.

Adolf Oliver Bush

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Thank you for reiterating my point.

Losers always want a merger.

Again, the offer was made well before the election. Furthermore, the PCs have lost every election since Trudeaup took office.



I haven't heard them cawing for a merger, have you?
Her fucking fupa looked like a pair of ass cheeks... like someone naked ran into her head first and got stuck. She was like "come eat me out" and I was like "nah I think I'll go snort some anthrax and light myself on fire instead"

 - Biggie Smiles

DKG

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Quote from: DKG post_id=507817 time=1689518860 user_id=3390


Losers always want a merger.

Again, the offer was made well before the election. Furthermore, the PCs have lost every election since Trudeaup took office.



I haven't heard them cawing for a merger, have you?

No, it was made when Trudeau's star was rising and Mulcair's trajectory was in the opposite direction.



The PC's haven't existed in twenty years. The Conservatives won the popular vote in the last two elections. They have no party in parliament to merge with.

Adolf Oliver Bush

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Again, the offer was made well before the election. Furthermore, the PCs have lost every election since Trudeaup took office.



I haven't heard them cawing for a merger, have you?

No, it was made when Trudeau's star was rising and Mulcair's trajectory was in the opposite direction.



The PC's haven't existed in twenty years. The Conservatives won the popular vote in the last two elections. They have no party in parliament to merge with.

And apparently neither do the NDP. At least not openly, it's no real secret Wellington Street takes its marching orders from the WEF at this point. That illusion of a three party system you've got going there is effectively a uniparty; you can tell by the more conservative voices ever ceding ground to the globo-homo agenda.



Perhaps that's why you don't get to hear any cries for a merger; they've already "merged" where it really counts. Which makes you wonder - if Angry Tommy really was the "loser" you seek to paint him as, would that not also imply that he was not someone the established autocracy felt they could rely upon to continue the moneygrubbing antics of successive governments in the second largest country by landmass on the planet?



What's that? You didn't really believe you lived in a real democracy now, did you? Heh... no. A country of over 30 million inhabitants and the best you can boast for representatives at the highest tier are art teachers and postal clerks. Where's the real political clout I wonder? Because it's certainly not being provided at the level you are allowed to actually vote for!  ac_biggrin
Her fucking fupa looked like a pair of ass cheeks... like someone naked ran into her head first and got stuck. She was like "come eat me out" and I was like "nah I think I'll go snort some anthrax and light myself on fire instead"

 - Biggie Smiles

DKG

I am well aware that we have the illusion of choice in Canada. And even the illusion is starting to disappear.

Herman

Justine says Muslim parents influenced by the far right.

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Melson Gibson

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Justine says Muslim parents influenced by the far right.

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Just another way to push the blame onto Whites.



Everyone knows that Muslims have their cultural standards, and right or wrong I won't judge that, but here we have our leader, our PM, claiming it's the 'Far Right' Whites, more or less, influencing them to believe so.



There really is a (((power))) behind the scenes pulling the strings, I'm now convinced...



A power so strong, but yet only one race on Earth it still finds potentially threatening...  Hitler should've been more thorough.