Holocaust or not

[Bricktop]

That is conjecture.



Hitler's invasion spurned the Communists to build a vast army that swept through the vacuum the retreating German armies left behind, enabling them to effectively annex Hungary, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and the eastern half of Germany.



Had Hitler not attacked, Stalin would not have been given the excuse to rapidly amass a vast army with support from the West.

[Renee]

Oh for God's sake, are you for real?  This is getting embarrassing now.....





So everything Kevin McDonald says should be dismissed because some Jewish scholar says so?  Who could have guessed that a Jew would take issue with McDonald's views? ac_toofunny



And David Cole is a 'nazi sympathiser'?  Yeah because Jewish nazi sympathisers are a dime a dozen aren't they?  Could it be that Cole just saw through the BS and chose to expose the big lie?  





Seriously Renee, give it up, you are so out of your depth on this subject that I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you.

Seriously SCOUSE, you're an idiot.



 Every single source you have cited is garbage. David Cole is a far right nut who's father was a Hollywood doctor, who lost his medical license for neighbour prescription drugs like candy to various celebs. In fact he is pretty much credited with killing Elvis. Cole/Stein lied about his identity for years to avoid being treated like a pariah for his political views; all just so he could take advantage of a Hollywood lifestyle. He's a liar and a con man.



McDonald's work has been criticized by the majority of evolutionary psychologists that he cites in his work.



"John Tooby, past president of the Human Behavior and Evolution Society and a professor of anthropology at the University of California, Santa Barbara, insists that MacDonald is not an evolutionary psychologist, and that he advocates models incorporating "group-selection theory", a generally discredited view of natural selection"



Beirich, Heidi (Spring 2007). "California State University, Long Beach Psychology Professor Kevin MacDonald Publishes Anti-Semitic Books". Intelligence Report. SPLC (125).



"Daniel Kriegman, an evolutionary psychologist, produced a 50-page analysis criticizing MacDonald's work as "pseudo-scientific theorizing," although it does not appear that he ever published it: he did send it to MacDonald, who has since responded. He wrote that MacDonald "believes his own nonsense." Kriegman remarked in  an email, "MacDonald is not the first person to avoid the narcissistic injury of having his ideas rejected by concluding that there was a conspiracy against him rather than becoming aware of the substandard nature [as evidenced in his trilogy] of his thinking"



Sounds a lot like you, no wonder you think his work is credible.



Heidi Beirich: Promoting Hate - California Professor is Font of Anti-Semitism. Southern Poverty Law Center. Spring 2007. Retrieved on 2007-09-04.



"Academic Jaff Schatz has accused MacDonald of misrepresenting and misusing his work."



David Lieberman: Scholarship as an Exercise in Rhetorical Strategy: A Case Study of Kevin MacDonald's Research Techniques. H-Antisemitism: Occasional Papers. January 29, 2001. Retrieved on 2007-09-04.



"John Hartung, the associate editor of the Journal of Neurosurgical Anesthesiology and an associate professor of anesthesiology at the State University of New York said that MacDonald's The Culture of Critique was "quite disturbing, seriously misinformed about evolutionary genetics, and suffering from a huge blind spot about the nature of Christianity"



 Heidi Beirich: Promoting Hate - California Professor is Font of Anti-Semitism. Southern Poverty Law Center. Spring 2007. Retrieved on 2007-09-04.



Shall I continue? There are plenty more....... Kevin McDonald is a discredited anti-Semitic hack, just like ALL so called neo Nazi and white supremacy scholars. All of them twist and misrepresent the credible research of others and use faux science to perpetuate their lies.



If anyone is out of their league it's you, little boy. Get a clue. Or better yet, go back to school and learn a trade or get a degree. 30 something years gone, sitting around obsessing over a boogeyman that doesn't exist, while working unskilled labor jobs is not a life. It's a prison....a prison of ignorance, hate, self victimization and eventual poverty. Unfortunately at this rate, you're on track for a life sentence.

[Renee]

What I'm saying is if the National Socialists hadn't existed, the reds would have spread a lot further than Eastern Europe.

How would they have done that, pinhead?



You do know that during the winter war of 1939, against the Fins, the Russians didn't even have enough arms to supply their troops? They were also poorly trained and lead by inexperienced politically appointed officers. A failing the Russian Army suffered from constantly throughout history.



Yeah the big bad Bolsheviks....



Ever wonder why the Red Army was so vicious toward the Germans? Was it because they were just plain old mean people OR could it have been the fact that during Operation Barbarossa the Germans starved to death 2 million Russian prisoners of war?



You see dipshit, Russia never signed any of the 4 treaties that make up the Geneva Conventions.  So the Germans didn't feel the moral need to play by the rules of what would be considered standards for humane treatment of Red Army POWs. Where the Russians were concerned, Hitler's directive was to treat them as "sub-human".



Just another testimonial to the cruelties and atrocities committed by the Nazis. But I guess the 2 million dead red POWs and the Nazi death squads or "einsatzgruppen" that roamed the Ukraine and Latvia are all figments of a lie perpetrated by the God damn Jooooooos.  



Just go ahead and say it.......by now we all know you for what you are....a far right, fringe lunatic.



You're a disgusting low brow idiot, just like ALL your neo Nazi, white supremacist kind. Basement dwelling, unwashed, little trogs like you are just one of the worst stereotypes that can be applied to white people. It's no secret that I find you revolting but don't mind me, my tolerance for willful ignorance coupled with unchecked lunacy is probably much lower than the average.

[Aryan]

Oh for God's sake, are you for real?  This is getting embarrassing now.....





So everything Kevin McDonald says should be dismissed because some Jewish scholar says so?  Who could have guessed that a Jew would take issue with McDonald's views? ac_toofunny



And David Cole is a 'nazi sympathiser'?  Yeah because Jewish nazi sympathisers are a dime a dozen aren't they?  Could it be that Cole just saw through the BS and chose to expose the big lie?  





Seriously Renee, give it up, you are so out of your depth on this subject that I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you.

Seriously SCOUSE, you're an idiot.



 Every single source you have cited is garbage. David Cole is a far right nut who's father was a Hollywood doctor, who lost his medical license for neighbour prescription drugs like candy to various celebs. In fact he is pretty much credited with killing Elvis. Cole/Stein lied about his identity for years to avoid being treated like a pariah for his political views; all just so he could take advantage of a Hollywood lifestyle. He's a liar and a con man.



McDonald's work has been criticized by the majority of evolutionary psychologists that he cites in his work.



"John Tooby, past president of the Human Behavior and Evolution Society and a professor of anthropology at the University of California, Santa Barbara, insists that MacDonald is not an evolutionary psychologist, and that he advocates models incorporating "group-selection theory", a generally discredited view of natural selection"



Beirich, Heidi (Spring 2007). "California State University, Long Beach Psychology Professor Kevin MacDonald Publishes Anti-Semitic Books". Intelligence Report. SPLC (125).



"Daniel Kriegman, an evolutionary psychologist, produced a 50-page analysis criticizing MacDonald's work as "pseudo-scientific theorizing," although it does not appear that he ever published it: he did send it to MacDonald, who has since responded. He wrote that MacDonald "believes his own nonsense." Kriegman remarked in  an email, "MacDonald is not the first person to avoid the narcissistic injury of having his ideas rejected by concluding that there was a conspiracy against him rather than becoming aware of the substandard nature [as evidenced in his trilogy] of his thinking"



Sounds a lot like you, no wonder you think his work is credible.



Heidi Beirich: Promoting Hate - California Professor is Font of Anti-Semitism. Southern Poverty Law Center. Spring 2007. Retrieved on 2007-09-04.



"Academic Jaff Schatz has accused MacDonald of misrepresenting and misusing his work."



David Lieberman: Scholarship as an Exercise in Rhetorical Strategy: A Case Study of Kevin MacDonald's Research Techniques. H-Antisemitism: Occasional Papers. January 29, 2001. Retrieved on 2007-09-04.



"John Hartung, the associate editor of the Journal of Neurosurgical Anesthesiology and an associate professor of anesthesiology at the State University of New York said that MacDonald's The Culture of Critique was "quite disturbing, seriously misinformed about evolutionary genetics, and suffering from a huge blind spot about the nature of Christianity"



 Heidi Beirich: Promoting Hate - California Professor is Font of Anti-Semitism. Southern Poverty Law Center. Spring 2007. Retrieved on 2007-09-04.



Shall I continue? There are plenty more....... Kevin McDonald is a discredited anti-Semitic hack, just like ALL so called neo Nazi and white supremacy scholars. All of them twist and misrepresent the credible research of others and use faux science to perpetuate their lies.



If anyone is out of their league it's you, little boy. Get a clue. Or better yet, go back to school and learn a trade or get a degree. 30 something years gone, sitting around obsessing over a boogeyman that doesn't exist, while working unskilled labor jobs is not a life. It's a prison....a prison of ignorance, hate, self victimization and eventual poverty. Unfortunately at this rate, you're on track for a life sentence.

You can't totally dismiss what someone has said just because you disagree with it you moron.  You are merely using the opinions of a handful of Jewish and liberal scholars who naturally take issue with Kevin Mcdonald's theories.  



What he says can be PROVEN.  Have you heard of the Frankfurt school and all the Jewish 'intellectuals' who dreamed up Cultural Marxism back in the 50's and 60's with the intention of implementing it into mainstream academia? Something which they have unfortunately got away with doing.......  Or do you want me to link the sources for you? Surely you can load up Wikipedia yourself.   :001_rolleyes:





So come on then, lets get to the bones of it. Which part of what he says do you disagree with exactly?  And parroting the typical 'hes a nazi extremist jew hater blah blah blah' wont cut it I'm afraid.   This should be good........... denying that Jews dreamed up Cultural Marxism at the Frankfurt school is an undeniable fact.  They even had to flee Germany prior to WW2 for obvious reasons and carried on their work in the US.

[Aryan]

What I'm saying is if the National Socialists hadn't existed, the reds would have spread a lot further than Eastern Europe.

How would they have done that, pinhead?



You do know that during the winter war of 1939, against the Fins, the Russians didn't even have enough arms to supply their troops? They were also poorly trained and lead by inexperienced politically appointed officers. A failing the Russian Army suffered from constantly throughout history.



Yeah the big bad Bolsheviks....



Ever wonder why the Red Army was so vicious toward the Germans? Was it because they were just plain old mean people OR could it have been the fact that during Operation Barbarossa the Germans starved to death 2 million Russian prisoners of war?



You see dipshit, Russia never signed any of the 4 treaties that make up the Geneva Conventions.  So the Germans didn't feel the moral need to play by the rules of what would be considered standards for humane treatment of Red Army POWs. Where the Russians were concerned, Hitler's directive was to treat them as "sub-human".



Just another testimonial to the cruelties and atrocities committed by the Nazis. But I guess the 2 million dead red POWs and the Nazi death squads or "einsatzgruppen" that roamed the Ukraine and Latvia are all figments of a lie perpetrated by the God damn Jooooooos.  



Just go ahead and say it.......by now we all know you for what you are....a far right, fringe lunatic.



You're a disgusting low brow idiot, just like ALL your neo Nazi, white supremacist kind. Basement dwelling, unwashed, little trogs like you are just one of the worst stereotypes that can be applied to white people. It's no secret that I find you revolting but don't mind me, my tolerance for willful ignorance coupled with unchecked lunacy is probably much lower than the average.

You sound like a fucking Communist sympathiser.  



You harp on and on about the big bad nazis while ignoring how the red army murdered over 100 million people, and imply that the Bolsheviks were nothing but a harmless nuisance. I'm sure the Russian Royal family thought that who they murdered, along with countless others.



You're an idiot, seriously.

[Renee]

Oh you found me out....I'm a commie. Guilty as fuck.



I'm surprised you didn't know that already because according to Nazi doctrine, commies and Jews are inexorably tied together....the two can't be separated. In Mein Kampf, your hero, Mr. Hitler, claimed that the Jew's are responsible for communism. Communism is one of the tools the Jews are using to take over the world.



I thought you read that book....maybe you aught to pick up a copy of the English translated version. Truth is you never read it....no pictures. And it's obvious that you would have trouble getting through a copy of "One Fish, Two Fish" by Dr. Seuss...... ac_umm Was he a Jew?



Hey let's recite the words together, I'll start....



One Fish



Two Fish



Red Fish



Now you.... and here's a hint....the next fish rhymes with "Jew Fish".....



Same old shit...nothing to back up your ideology except to scream.....IT'S THE JOOOOOOOW'S!!!!!



BTW dumbass, flawed methodology that adds up to pseudo science, used as a spring board for an ideological agenda, should ALWAYS be disagreed with.



If you had any kind of formal education under your belt you would understand that simple premise. But you don't and all you got is Nazi propaganda in which to spend your time trolling internet forums with. Fucking pathetic.

[IRISH KAM]

As a member that actually HAS visited a concentration camp ( Bergen - Belsen ) when i was based in Minden West germany .



Ive seen the PROOF myself .



Ive had this oot with SCOUSE before , and most of what he says is Utter Shite .



Some of what he says is truthful , but only a tiny % .



I joined STORMFRONT about 12 Mths ago and as soon as i posted i was Ex - Forces that had visited Bergen - Belsen and seen the Proof was given an instant BAN .



Before the ban i had posted a few home truths aboot Hitler , that didnt go down well .

[Aryan]

Oh you found me out....I'm a commie. Guilty as fuck.



I'm surprised you didn't know that already because according to Nazi doctrine, commies and Jews are inexorably tied together....the two can't be separated. In Mein Kampf, your hero, Mr. Hitler, claimed that the Jew's are responsible for communism. Communism is one of the tools the Jews are using to take over the world.



I thought you read that book....maybe you aught to pick up a copy of the English translated version. Truth is you never read it....no pictures. And it's obvious that you would have trouble getting through a copy of "One Fish, Two Fish" by Dr. Seuss...... ac_umm Was he a Jew?



Hey let's recite the words together, I'll start....



One Fish



Two Fish



Red Fish



Now you.... and here's a hint....the next fish rhymes with "Jew Fish".....



Same old shit...nothing to back up your ideology except to scream.....IT'S THE JOOOOOOOW'S!!!!!



BTW dumbass, flawed methodology that adds up to pseudo science, used as a spring board for an ideological agenda, should ALWAYS be disagreed with.



If you had any kind of formal education under your belt you would understand that simple premise. But you don't and all you got is Nazi propaganda in which to spend your time trolling internet forums with. Fucking pathetic.

Are you simple?   The Frankfurt school and Jewish involvement in the creation and spread of Cultural Marxsim are  UNDENIABLE facts.  Not nazi propaganda, or anti semitism or whatever other typical buzz words you can think of to deny it all.



Despite what your limited brainpower tells you, there are never any 'good' guys or 'bad' guys in a war, just 2 or more different sides competing for different agendas. WW2 was no different. The National Socialists were about nationalism, whereas the Communists were all for Jewish globalism and internationalism.  





Here's a breakdown for you so you can perhaps finally grasp what the war was about.





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[Aryan]

As a member that actually HAS visited a concentration camp ( Bergen - Belsen ) when i was based in Minden West germany .



Ive seen the PROOF myself .



Ive had this oot with SCOUSE before , and most of what he says to Utter Shite .



Some of what he says is truthful , but only a tiny % .



I joined STORMFRONT about 12 Mths ago and as soon as i posted i was Ex - Forces that had visited Bergen - Belsen and seen the Proof was given an instant BAN .



Before the ban i had posted a few home truths aboot Hitler , that didnt go down well .

Saw what?  Gas chambers built AFTER the war for tourism purposes?  



You most likely were banned from SF for being an argumentative twat.

[Aryan]

I'm surprised you didn't know that already because according to Nazi doctrine, commies and Jews are inexorably tied together....the two can't be separated. In Mein Kampf, your hero, Mr. Hitler, claimed that the Jew's are responsible for communism. Communism is one of the tools the Jews are using to take over the world.

Its now known as 'globalism'.  Go on, try and deny that Jews promote globalism and open borders.  

[IRISH KAM]

MEIN KAMPF ( MY STRUGGLE ) wasnt even Hitlers ideology or book .



Mein Kampf was dictated to Hitler by HESS when they were jailed in Landsberg after the failed burger brau keller revolt .

[IRISH KAM]

As a member that actually HAS visited a concentration camp ( Bergen - Belsen ) when i was based in Minden West germany .



Ive seen the PROOF myself .



Ive had this oot with SCOUSE before , and most of what he says to Utter Shite .



Some of what he says is truthful , but only a tiny % .



I joined STORMFRONT about 12 Mths ago and as soon as i posted i was Ex - Forces that had visited Bergen - Belsen and seen the Proof was given an instant BAN .



Before the ban i had posted a few home truths aboot Hitler , that didnt go down well .

Saw what?  Gas chambers built AFTER the war for tourism purposes?  



You most likely were banned from SF for being an argumentative twat.

Ya keep ranting aboot the 6 Mil Jews that were Gassed .



yet its a historical FACT that only 200 / 300 Thousand jews were gassed .

[Aryan]

As a member that actually HAS visited a concentration camp ( Bergen - Belsen ) when i was based in Minden West germany .



Ive seen the PROOF myself .



Ive had this oot with SCOUSE before , and most of what he says to Utter Shite .



Some of what he says is truthful , but only a tiny % .



I joined STORMFRONT about 12 Mths ago and as soon as i posted i was Ex - Forces that had visited Bergen - Belsen and seen the Proof was given an instant BAN .



Before the ban i had posted a few home truths aboot Hitler , that didnt go down well .

Saw what?  Gas chambers built AFTER the war for tourism purposes?  



You most likely were banned from SF for being an argumentative twat.

Ya keep ranting aboot the 6 Mil Jews that were Gassed .



yet its a historical FACT that only 200 / 300 Thousand jews were gassed .

Where is the proof of the gas chambers?  The ones in existence now at the camps were built AFTER the war had ended.

[IRISH KAM]

As a member that actually HAS visited a concentration camp ( Bergen - Belsen ) when i was based in Minden West germany .



Ive seen the PROOF myself .



Ive had this oot with SCOUSE before , and most of what he says to Utter Shite .



Some of what he says is truthful , but only a tiny % .



I joined STORMFRONT about 12 Mths ago and as soon as i posted i was Ex - Forces that had visited Bergen - Belsen and seen the Proof was given an instant BAN .



Before the ban i had posted a few home truths aboot Hitler , that didnt go down well .

Saw what?  Gas chambers built AFTER the war for tourism purposes?  



You most likely were banned from SF for being an argumentative twat.

Ya keep ranting aboot the 6 Mil Jews that were Gassed .



yet its a historical FACT that only 200 / 300 Thousand jews were gassed .

Where is the proof of the gas chambers?  The ones in existence now at the camps were built AFTER the war had ended.

Theres FILMED documented and written evidence by the Brit Forces of the gas chambers AS they liberated Bergen Belsen . .



yet as i already posted they did exist , yet only a tiny minority of Jews were killed that way .



Most jews died by Starvation / disease / beating / worked to death .

[Renee]

Oh you found me out....I'm a commie. Guilty as fuck.



I'm surprised you didn't know that already because according to Nazi doctrine, commies and Jews are inexorably tied together....the two can't be separated. In Mein Kampf, your hero, Mr. Hitler, claimed that the Jew's are responsible for communism. Communism is one of the tools the Jews are using to take over the world.



I thought you read that book....maybe you aught to pick up a copy of the English translated version. Truth is you never read it....no pictures. And it's obvious that you would have trouble getting through a copy of "One Fish, Two Fish" by Dr. Seuss...... ac_umm Was he a Jew?



Hey let's recite the words together, I'll start....



One Fish



Two Fish



Red Fish



Now you.... and here's a hint....the next fish rhymes with "Jew Fish".....



Same old shit...nothing to back up your ideology except to scream.....IT'S THE JOOOOOOOW'S!!!!!



BTW dumbass, flawed methodology that adds up to pseudo science, used as a spring board for an ideological agenda, should ALWAYS be disagreed with.



If you had any kind of formal education under your belt you would understand that simple premise. But you don't and all you got is Nazi propaganda in which to spend your time trolling internet forums with. Fucking pathetic.

Are you simple?   The Frankfurt school and Jewish involvement in the creation and spread of Cultural Marxsim are  UNDENIABLE facts.  Not nazi propaganda, or anti semitism or whatever other typical buzz words you can think of to deny it all.



Despite what your limited brainpower tells you, there are never any 'good' guys or 'bad' guys in a war, just 2 or more different sides competing for different agendas. WW2 was no different. The National Socialists were about nationalism, whereas the Communists were all for Jewish globalism and internationalism.  





Here's a breakdown for you so you can perhaps finally grasp what the war was about.





http://s196.photobucket.com/user/scousehead/media/truth_zpsgkmpnrpx.jpg.html">

As I look at and read shit like this ,^ I laugh my ass off. I have to because if I didn't, I would have to face the fact that I wasted about 2 to 3 hrs of my life, in this thread alone, that I will never get back.  



You would think I would know better by now.