Re: Taxes Continue To Erode Living Standards/Freedom In Cana

[Romero]

In fact, the total tax bill for a typical Canadian family includes a dizzying array of taxes, including visible ones such as income taxes, sales taxes, payroll taxes and property taxes, as well as hidden ones such as profit taxes, gas taxes, import duties—and the list goes on.

 

In 2013, we estimate the average Canadian family consisting of two or more people will pay a total tax bill of $42,400 or 43.6% of their annual income.

If the list goes on and on with every possible tax and duty they can find, it will eventually add up to 43.6%. Profit taxes? Those are paid by businesses, not individuals. Import duties? I have to wonder what else is on the list that they don't mention.



The average Canadian family doesn't pay 43% of their income in taxes. I don't, and nobody else here does.

[Obvious Li]

In fact, the total tax bill for a typical Canadian family includes a dizzying array of taxes, including visible ones such as income taxes, sales taxes, payroll taxes and property taxes, as well as hidden ones such as profit taxes, gas taxes, import duties—and the list goes on.

 

In 2013, we estimate the average Canadian family consisting of two or more people will pay a total tax bill of $42,400 or 43.6% of their annual income.

If the list goes on and on with every possible tax and duty they can find, it will eventually add up to 43.6%. Profit taxes? Those are paid by businesses, not individuals. Import duties? I have to wonder what else is on the list that they don't mention.



The average Canadian family doesn't pay 43% of their income in taxes. I don't, and nobody else here does.

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of course you do..you just don`t realize it......that is the beauty of the system.....even the dupes don`t know they are duped.....these bastards are professionals......

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Canadians spend more money on government than they do on food, shelter and clothing. What is the solution from dippers/occutards to these increasing vig payments from Canadian families? More programs which cost more money, which require more snivel serpents to administer them.   When government takes your money they are taking your freedom. Decisions we would have made about allocation are being made on our behalf and not always/usually in our best interests. Politicians' have an agenda and that is getting reelected. The priority of families is their children's well-being.

Taxes," according to the famous quote attributed to Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., "are the price we pay for a civilized society."

 

Fair enough.

 

But Holmes didn't put a price tag on the notion of a civilized society.

 

How much are you willing to pay?

 

Or put another way, how long in the year would you be willing to work to pay for all the stuff government does?

 

In 2013, Canadians worked until June 10 — Tax Freedom Day — to pay all taxes levelled by government.

 

Tax Freedom Day is an easy-to-understand measure of the total tax burden imposed on Canadian families by federal, provincial and local governments.

 

If you had to pay all your taxes up front, you would give governments each and every dollar you earned before Tax Freedom Day.

 

If working until June 10 sounds like a long time, it's because the taxes we pay extend well beyond the income tax we see deducted off our paycheques.

 

In fact, the total tax bill for a typical Canadian family includes a dizzying array of taxes, including visible ones such as income taxes, sales taxes, payroll taxes and property taxes, as well as hidden ones such as profit taxes, gas taxes, import duties—and the list goes on.

 

In 2013, we estimate the average Canadian family consisting of two or more people will pay a total tax bill of $42,400 or 43.6% of their annual income.



Thus, Tax Freedom Day falls on June 10.

 

It's only from then on that Canadians start working for themselves and their families instead of government.

 

While that may be reason enough to celebrate, keep in mind Tax Freedom Day arrives two days later than last year.

 

And it's no wonder why: Governments across the country have recently increased taxes in an effort to make up for years of overspending that has resulted in multi-year deficits.

 

This past year alone, British Columbia and New Brunswick increased personal and corporate income taxes (B.C. also raised its health tax), Manitoba increased its provincial sales tax, Quebec increased its top income tax rate, P.E.I. increased its tax on small businesses, and the federal government increased Employment Insurance premiums.

And then there's Canada's progressive tax system which imposes a higher total tax burden on families as their incomes increase.

 

As incomes have recovered from the 2008-09 recession, the average tax burden has grown.

 

For example, the top fifth of income earners face an average total tax burden amounting to 52.4% of income, while the bottom fifth face an average burden of 17.3%.

 

Indeed, the more you earn, the more of your income goes to paying taxes.

 

But the true tax burden doesn't end with the revenues governments collect.

 

The reality is, governments often spend more than their revenues allow and then borrow the difference.

 

In other words, they incur deficits.

 

This year, the federal and six provincial governments are planning to incur deficits totalling $34 billion.

 

According to our calculations, Tax Freedom Day would come nine days later this year, on June 19, if Canadian governments covered their current spending with even greater tax increases instead of borrowing the shortfall.

 

Back to Holmes and the price tag of a "civilized society."

 

Is working until June 10 acceptable for what we get from government?

 

While it's ultimately up to individual Canadians to decide, therein lies the value of Tax Freedom Day; it at least gives them the information they need to make that assessment.

 

On that note, belated Happy Tax Freedom Day, Canada.

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That is an eye opener Shen Li..



Like most people I am only aware of income taxes, sales taxes and property tax..



There are so many other taxes that I don't even consider..



It would be nice if my family had some relief from all these charges.

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[Romero]

In 2013, the average Canadian family (consisting of two or more people) will earn $97,254 in income and pay a total of $42,400 in taxes (43.6 per cent of income). The taxes used to compute Tax Freedom Day include income taxes, payroll taxes (social security, pension, and health taxes), property taxes, sales taxes, profit taxes, import duties, fuel taxes, license fees, taxes on alcohol and tobacco, natural resource fees, and a host of other levies. It can be difficult for Canadians to decipher the myriad taxes they pay each year, especially the less visible ones like taxes imposed on profits, imports, and the consumption of fuel and alcohol.

See, it's ridiculous. They're just throwing in every possible thing they can think of, imagine and even invent.



Paying into social security, pension and health care shouldn't be considered being taxed. They're benefits. Individuals and families benefit much more than they put in. Can you imagine what it would cost a family to pay for private health care or hundreds every month for privatized health insurance?



Profit taxes are paid by businesses. Natural resource fees? What natural resource fees? A host of other levies? Damn that host of levies most of us don't pay for!



I'm certainly not arguing that taxes, fees and all the nickel-and-diming aren't too much, but let's at least be realistic. You cant take every single tax, fee and levy you can possibly find, real or imagined, and claim that the average family pays every single one of them.

[Romero]

I still say they're being disingenuous. They're throwing in any tax, fee, duty and levy they can think of, and obviously the average Canadian family would pay from some to most of them. Not all and every single one.



This is how the Fraser Institute would calculate taxes on a $2 cup of coffee:



PST: 14¢

HST: 10¢

Cafe property taxes: 2¢

Utility taxes: 1¢

Coffee supplies and equipment taxes: 2¢

Supplies and equipment transportation taxes: 2¢

Employee benefits: 2¢

Costa Rica rainforest clearcut levy: 2¢

Stuff we haven't thought of yet: 2¢

etc.

etc.

etc.



Coffee is 50% taxes! We must privatize health care and education now!

[Anonymous]

See, it's ridiculous. They're just throwing in every possible thing they can think of, imagine and even invent.



Paying into social security, pension and health care shouldn't be considered being taxed. They're benefits. Individuals and families benefit much more than they put in. Can you imagine what it would cost a family to pay for private health care or hundreds every month for privatized health insurance?

Tax definition:

1. a sum of money demanded by a government for its support or for specific facilities or services, levied upon incomes, property, sales, etc.



2. a burdensome charge, obligation, duty, or demand.



All these ever increasing charges are taking money/decisions away from working families like Fash.

Profit taxes are paid by businesses. Natural resource fees? What natural resource fees? A host of other levies? Damn that host of levies most of us don't pay for!

What does any biz do with a tax? They pass on the extra cost to us. There are a lot of burdensome costs that businesses are charged and we ultimately pay.

I'm certainly not arguing that taxes, fees and all the nickel-and-diming aren't too much, but let's at least be realistic. You cant take every single tax, fee and levy you can possibly find, real or imagined, and claim that the average family pays every single one of them.

You are not being realistic, the charges we are required to pay are far too high and growing. As long as we keep saying we aren't paying them when in fact we are they will continue to gouge us.

Shen Li, I am flattered you are so worried about my family..



That is unecessary though as we will manage whatever changes come our way.

[Romero]

They should be talking about all the taxes families are forced to pay. But it appears they're adding up every single tax, fee, duty and levy they can find and think of. Well, the average family doesn't doesn't pay everything in the book.



Profit taxes for example. The average Canadian family doesn't own a business. They don't pay any profit taxes. They don't pay many of the taxes that the Fraser Institute included.



43% is based on the maximum a family could pay. Not what the average family does pay.

[Obvious Li]

taxes are merely state enforced theft of private property......an attempt to transfer wealth from the successful members of a society to the lazy, non contributing members...it is in everyone's best interest to use all their efforts and talents to avoid paying taxes whenever and however they can...

[Odinson]

Taxes are of course needed or else these nations would fall apart. It´s hard to keep looters away even with an arsenal in your house.

[Odinson]

Taxes are of course needed or else these nations would fall apart. It´s hard to keep looters away even with an arsenal in your house.

Taxes are a legalized looting of families. You live in perhaps the most transparent nation on earth, Canada/USA are corrupt and taxation is the fuel for the fire.

Yea, when it´s too much. Police-force and the army need to be kept up.

[Obvious Li]

taxes should be voluntary....in order that people like Homero and his kind, who seem to enjoy the concept of paying taxes, can contribute as much as they wish...this would provide enough govt. revenue to provide basic services for all.....thus satisfying the desires of those who wish to pay and those that wish the govt would fuck off.

[Obvious Li]

Taxes are a legalized looting of families. You live in perhaps the most transparent nation on earth, Canada/USA are corrupt and taxation is the fuel for the fire.

Yea, when it´s too much. Police-force and the army need to be kept up.

Police and defense, the first two departments that would get the axe in a Shen Li gov't.

where to begin???? it would be such a blast to fire every snivel servant and teacher in the country.

[Odinson]

Yea, when it´s too much. Police-force and the army need to be kept up.

Police and defense, the first two departments that would get the axe in a Shen Li gov't.

where to begin???? it would be such a blast to fire every snivel servant and teacher in the country.

Torturing them, cutting of their limbs, hanging and burning them would be nice too after they are fired.

[Odinson]

where to begin???? it would be such a blast to fire every snivel servant and teacher in the country.

Torturing them, cutting of their limbs, hanging and burning them would be nice too after they are fired.

Torturing a white leftist means letting them keep more of their paycheque.  

Clever.