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Rob Hiaasen, Capital Gazette editor and brother of author Carl Hiaasen, identified as newsroom shooting victim



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I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"If true, amazing one could carry a grudge so long



And damage his fingers to conceal identity ... like what a goofball formerly on the loose



Pic according to CBS



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He carried no identification and had damaged his finger tips in an apparent effort to thwart identification by law enforcement, sources said.

Authorities resorted to using facial recognition software and comparing his face to databases of passports and driver's license photos.

He never got over his grudge.



Any warnings this might happen?

Frood

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "cc"If true, amazing one could carry a grudge so long



And damage his fingers to conceal identity ... like what a goofball formerly on the loose



Pic according to CBS



https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/06/29/c702eced-96f4-403d-bb22-5206515446c0/resize/620x/a5738f4bdf8e6f2ae0cd0be7eef5bbee/jarrod-ramos.jpg">





He carried no identification and had damaged his finger tips in an apparent effort to thwart identification by law enforcement, sources said.

Authorities resorted to using facial recognition software and comparing his face to databases of passports and driver's license photos.

He never got over his grudge.



Any warnings this might happen?


The girl he was harassing told police he was the type to be a mass shooter a number of years ago, and Newspaper management notified police around 2013 that he was a danger and they looked into obtaining a restraining order for him on the premises.



The red flags were there.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "cc"If true, amazing one could carry a grudge so long



And damage his fingers to conceal identity ... like what a goofball formerly on the loose



Pic according to CBS



https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/06/29/c702eced-96f4-403d-bb22-5206515446c0/resize/620x/a5738f4bdf8e6f2ae0cd0be7eef5bbee/jarrod-ramos.jpg">





He carried no identification and had damaged his finger tips in an apparent effort to thwart identification by law enforcement, sources said.

Authorities resorted to using facial recognition software and comparing his face to databases of passports and driver's license photos.

He never got over his grudge.



Any warnings this might happen?


The girl he was harassing told police he was the type to be a mass shooter a number of years ago, and Newspaper management notified police around 2013 that he was a danger and they looked into obtaining a restraining order for him on the premises.



The red flags were there.

The newspaper definitely should have got a restraining order against him entering their premises.

Wazzzup

[size=150]Journalists, leftists and a former congressman jumped to blame President Donald Trump

 for the shooting at a Maryland newsroom.[/size]


(yes seriously, even though there is absolutely no evidence showing that a general antimedia animus had anything to do with it)



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https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/1012429565111791616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1012429565111791616&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2018%2F06%2F28%2Fjournalists-blame-trump-md-shooting%2F">https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/1 ... hooting%2F">https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/1012429565111791616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1012429565111791616&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2018%2F06%2F28%2Fjournalists-blame-trump-md-shooting%2F



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https://twitter.com/theprint/status/1012431344922550272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1012431344922550272&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2018%2F06%2F28%2Fjournalists-blame-trump-md-shooting%2F">https://twitter.com/theprint/status/101 ... hooting%2F">https://twitter.com/theprint/status/1012431344922550272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1012431344922550272&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2018%2F06%2F28%2Fjournalists-blame-trump-md-shooting%2F



yeah right.  The media are working 24/7 to raise the hate level to 11 on Trump and creating an atmosphere designed to provoke violence against him, and the people associated with him, but somehow the media are the victims?  Oh please :oeudC:  :crazy:



Leftists often use projection to justify their actions.  This is a prime example.

Frood

Quote from: "Wazzzup"

They just want what they want and if they can get it when things are in their favour, Democracy works for them. When Democracy doesn't deliver what they want, all the sudden Democracy doesn't work at all or they proclaim it broken or under attack.



I myself am a little apprehensive about how conservatives who control the Oval Office, House, Senate, and soon to be the Supreme Court might act and I've never thought highly of our modern versions of Democracy because they've lost many of the limitations meant to prevent mob rule.



But to be a fly on the wall at this moment is an eye opener! I knew progressives and socialists (arguably very similar in nature) were do as I say, not as I do types, but this just takes the cake. What they're advocating is at odds with the traditions and sentiments of free will, of representative government, of decency and respect for differing views, values, and manner of living.



They're having none of it. The deplorable's in flyover states and even along the coasts are considered ignorant to them. They know better than everyone else. Despite the vote for Trump, and majorities in both houses.



None of that matters.



It's sickening yet riveting.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Wazzzup"
yeah right.  The media are working 24/7 to raise the hate level to 11 on Trump and creating an atmosphere designed to provoke violence against him, and the people associated with him, but somehow the media are the victims?  Oh please :oeudC:  :crazy:



Leftists often use projection to justify their actions.  This is a prime example.

The shooter lost a defamation suit and never got over it.

Wazzzup

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
yeah right.  The media are working 24/7 to raise the hate level to 11 on Trump and creating an atmosphere designed to provoke violence against him, and the people associated with him, but somehow the media are the victims?  Oh please :oeudC:  :crazy:



Leftists often use projection to justify their actions.  This is a prime example.

The shooter lost a defamation suit and never got over it.


Those are of course the facts and the obvious logical conclusion based on the facts.  While the media, who are supposed to be objective and concerned with facts, completely disregarded them to jump to a conclusion completely unsupported by the known evidence.  OTOH when James Hodgkinson, Bernie Sanders volunteer, with a hit list in his pocket, shot up a baseball field full of Republicans the media tried to deny all they could it had anything to do with hating trump and republicans.  



It just goes to show the media have blatantly chosen up sides and they care nothing about what journalists are supposed to care about.  They have =decided that good journalism doesn't matter; that they are just a wing of the democrat party and liberal activists.   The goal of which is to destroy Trump any way they can, even if it means blatant lying and making things up.

Wazzzup

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"They just want what they want and if they can get it when things are in their favour, Democracy works for them. When Democracy doesn't deliver what they want, all the sudden Democracy doesn't work at all or they proclaim it broken or under attack.



I myself am a little apprehensive about how conservatives who control the Oval Office, House, Senate, and soon to be the Supreme Court might act and I've never thought highly of our modern versions of Democracy because they've lost many of the limitations meant to prevent mob rule.



But to be a fly on the wall at this moment is an eye opener! I knew progressives and socialists (arguably very similar in nature) were do as I say, not as I do types, but this just takes the cake. What they're advocating is at odds with the traditions and sentiments of free will, of representative government, of decency and respect for differing views, values, and manner of living.



They're having none of it. The deplorable's in flyover states and even along the coasts are considered ignorant to them. They know better than everyone else. Despite the vote for Trump, and majorities in both houses.



None of that matters.



It's sickening yet riveting.
I know a couple libertarians via the web, and under normal circumstances they would be of the mindset "we don't have a dog in this fight, a plague on both your houses" but now they have taken up sides.  the left is so angry about the results of the election they are threatening to destroy things that libertarians cherish as well.  Whereas non leftists and conservatives are not.



the left in the US has become extreme and violent and they are running roughshod over values necessary for a representative democracy, free speech chief among them.  Maybe in a parallel universe somewhere the right is doing it.  BUT HERE its the left.  Long gone are the old school liberals (in some ways I count myself as one of them) who said they value free speech and a free exchange of ideas and may the best group win.  Now they have gone full bore totalitarian.  There is almost no effort put into truthful persuasion, the attitude is Do it their way or they will smear you, ruin you, take away your job, threaten your family, your workers, maybe even kill you. they are trying to rule by angry mob behavior, silencing people, intimidation and bullying instead of making legitimate arguments.



Hillary Clinton was absolutely right when she said "anyone not respectng the results of an election is a threat to democracy" she just didn't know she was talking about herself and her people.

cc

QuoteHillary Clinton was absolutely right when she said "anyone not respectng the results of an election is a threat to democracy" she just didn't know she was talking about herself and her people.

Bingo. She said this in regard to a non comital answer by Trump in debate - made a HUGE thing of it



After her defeat it was only minutes before she started doing what she had previously said was wrong
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/06/29/reuters-editor-apologizes-could-be-disciplined-after-blaming-capital-gazette-shooting-on-trump.html">Reuters editor apologizes, could be disciplined after blaming Capital Gazette shooting on Trump



A top editor at Reuters apologized on Thursday night after blaming President Trump for the deadly Capital Gazette shooting in a now-deleted tweet that was sent during a "state of emotional distress," but he might still be disciplined by the international news service.  



Reuters Breakingviews : Editor Rob Cox admitted that he "responded emotionally and inappropriately" after being called out for jumping to conclusions prior to the facts emerging. Police said the suspected gunman, eventually identified as Jarrod W. Ramos, targeted the newspaper after a lengthy feud regarding a 2012 defamation lawsuit.



"This is what happens when @realDonaldTrump calls journalists the enemy of the people. Blood is on your hands, Mr. President. Save your thoughts and prayers for your empty soul," Cox wrote in the deleted tweet, according to TheWrap.



Cox apologized in a series of four tweets once it became clear that Ramos' motive predated Trump entering the world of politics.



A Reuters editor yet - SHAME!!
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/06/29/reuters-editor-apologizes-could-be-disciplined-after-blaming-capital-gazette-shooting-on-trump.html">Reuters editor apologizes, could be disciplined after blaming Capital Gazette shooting on Trump



A top editor at Reuters apologized on Thursday night after blaming President Trump for the deadly Capital Gazette shooting in a now-deleted tweet that was sent during a "state of emotional distress," but he might still be disciplined by the international news service.  



Reuters Breakingviews : Editor Rob Cox admitted that he "responded emotionally and inappropriately" after being called out for jumping to conclusions prior to the facts emerging. Police said the suspected gunman, eventually identified as Jarrod W. Ramos, targeted the newspaper after a lengthy feud regarding a 2012 defamation lawsuit.



A Reuters editor yet - SHAME!!

I guess this "journalist" thinks that's Trump's fault too. :crazy:

cc

and [More important, since when is speaking truth not a good thing, regardless that some nutcakes theoretically "could" be triggered?



while at the same time they deliberately fire up people to act for their causes ... many of whom have acted and certainly will act in future   ,, for example, one prog tried to kill many opponents at a baseball practice and I didn't notice any softening rhetoric  
]
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/06/29/reuters-editor-apologizes-could-be-disciplined-after-blaming-capital-gazette-shooting-on-trump.html">Reuters editor apologizes, could be disciplined after blaming Capital Gazette shooting on Trump



A top editor at Reuters apologized on Thursday night after blaming President Trump for the deadly Capital Gazette shooting in a now-deleted tweet that was sent during a "state of emotional distress," but he might still be disciplined by the international news service.  



Reuters Breakingviews : Editor Rob Cox admitted that he "responded emotionally and inappropriately" after being called out for jumping to conclusions prior to the facts emerging. Police said the suspected gunman, eventually identified as Jarrod W. Ramos, targeted the newspaper after a lengthy feud regarding a 2012 defamation lawsuit.



"This is what happens when @realDonaldTrump calls journalists the enemy of the people. Blood is on your hands, Mr. President. Save your thoughts and prayers for your empty soul," Cox wrote in the deleted tweet, according to TheWrap.



Cox apologized in a series of four tweets once it became clear that Ramos' motive predated Trump entering the world of politics.



A Reuters editor yet - SHAME!!

 ac_wot

Wazzzup

that's good that Reuters did that.  Apparently there is still someone out there who cares about real journalism.  Unfortunately in most media outlets that number is very few, if any, and rapidly shrinking.



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BTW speaking of Hillary, here's what she said regarding Trump haters and their disgusting behavior.



HILLARY REFUSES TO CONDEMN THE LEFT BECOMING 'UNCIVIL' — CALLS FOR 'STRENGTH' TO RESIST TRUMP

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/29/hillary-uncivil-trump-strength">http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/29/hilla ... p-strength">http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/29/hillary-uncivil-trump-strength


QuoteFailed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton rejected calls of civility in a recent interview, calling for "strength and resolve" to resist President Trump.



The Guardian reports that when asked about some on the left becoming "uncivil" recently, she responded:



"'Oh, give me a break,' she erupts, eyes widening into indignation. 'Give me a break! What is more uncivil and cruel than taking children away? It should be met with resolve and strength. And if some of that comes across as a little uncivil, well, children's lives are at stake; their futures are at stake. That is that ridiculous concept of bothsideism.'"



Clinton also mocked people who call for civility in political discourse, imitating, "Well, you know, somebody made an insulting, profane remark about President Trump, and he separated 2,300 children from their families, that's both sides, and we should stop being uncivil — oh, and, by the way, he should stop separating children."


(Even though obama separated some families as well, and thousands of Americans are separated from their children when they are convicted of crimes in the US )



BTW Trump issued an EO to keep families united at the border, but have the Trump haters stopped being uncivil at all?  Hell no.