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caskur

On the subject of man going to the moon...



NASA claims they lost their 700 boxes of man landing tapes...



Here was the news article on the subject




VVV





One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures



Richard Macey

August 5, 2006



THE heart-stopping moments when Neil Armstrong took his first tentative steps onto another world are defining images of the 20th century: grainy, fuzzy, unforgettable.



But just 37 years after Apollo 11, it is feared the magnetic tapes that recorded the first moon walk - beamed to the world via three tracking stations, including Parkes's famous "Dish" - have gone missing at NASA's Goddard Space Centre in Maryland.



A desperate search has begun amid concerns the tapes will disintegrate to dust before they can be found.



It is not widely known that the Apollo 11 television broadcast from the moon was a high-quality transmission, far sharper than the blurry version relayed instantly to the world on that July day in 1969.



Among those battling to unscramble the mystery is John Sarkissian, a CSIRO scientist stationed at Parkes for a decade. "We are working on the assumption they still exist," Mr Sarkissian told the Herald.



"Your guess is a good as mine as to where they are."



Mr Sarkissian began researching the role of Parkes in Apollo 11's mission in 1997, before the movie The Dish was made. However, when he later contacted NASA colleagues to ask about the tapes, they could not be found.



"People may have thought 'we have tapes of the moon walk, we don't need these'," said the scientist who hopes a new, intensive hunt will locate them.



If they can be found, he proposes making digitalised copies to treat the world to a very different view of history.



But the searchers may be running out of time. The only known equipment on which the original analogue tapes can be decoded is at a Goddard centre set to close in October, raising fears that even if they are found before they deteriorate, copying them may be impossible.



"We want the public to see it the way the moon walk was meant to be seen," Mr Sarkissian said.



"There will only ever be one first moon walk."



Originally stored at Goddard, the tapes were moved in 1970 to the US National Archives. No one knows why, but in 1984 about 700 boxes of space flight tapes there were returned to Goddard.



"We have the documents to say they were withdrawn, but no one knows exactly where they went," Mr Sarkissian said.



Many people involved had retired or died.



Also among tapes feared missing are the original recordings of the other five Apollo moon landings. The format used by the original pictures beamed from the moon was not compatible with commercial technology used by television networks. So the images received at Parkes, and at tracking stations near Canberra and in California, were played on screens mounted in front of conventional television cameras.



"The quality of what you saw on TV at home was substantially degraded" in the process, Mr Sarkissian said, creating the ghostly images of Armstrong and Aldrin that strained the eyes of hundreds of millions of people watching around the world.



Even Polaroid photographs of the screen that showed the original images received by Parkes are significantly sharper than what the public saw. While the technique looks primitive today, Mr Sarkissian said it was the best solution that 1969 technology offered.



Among the few who saw the original high-quality broadcast was David Cooke, a Parkes control room engineer in 1969.



"I can still see the screen," Mr Cook, 74, said. "I was amazed, the quality was fairly good."









The only other original copy was sitting 20 minutes from me and we just handed over our copies to the fraudsters to photoshop. I cannot believe we in Perth had the only other original copies and we handed them over for free.





Curtin finds 'lost' Moon tapes

The West Australian July 18, 2009, 11:00 am



Curtin University staff have a special reason to remember the 40th anniversary of man's historic Moon landing on Monday.



Emeritus professor of physics John de Laeter said the university had last year found 100 tapes from the Apollo 11 mission that NASA feared had been lost for ever.



A NASA scientist had brought duplicate copies of tapes to Perth in about 1970 and had asked Professor de Laeter to store them at the university so they could be used later.



The big, old-fashioned tapes had recorded information from two experiments and had been forgotten about until the US space agency revealed it had lost the original footage from the Moon landing.



A shortage of tapes in the 1970s and 80s had led to about 200,000 tapes being erased and reused.



"Fortunately, the lab manager had sort of disobeyed orders — he was told to get rid of the tapes, but he put them in the basement under one of our lecture theatres, which is cool and dark," Professor de Laeter said.



"We went down and, sure enough, we found them in very good condition. It is wonderful to see that a local university played a part."



The tapes have been returned to NASA for use in the 40th anniversary celebrations.



Associate Professor Alex Nemchin, from Curtin University's department of applied geology, said the university had accumulated about 30 samples of Moon rock during the past five years.



Researchers had examined chemicals and isotopes from the samples and had found some minerals to be as old as 4.42 billion years.



"With techniques we are developing, in the future we will be able to do more things with the samples," he said.



In New York, a navigational chart used by the Apollo 11 astronauts has become the unexpected star of an auction marking the lunar landing anniversary.



Bonhams New York says the lunar surface star chart sold on Thursday for a staggering $US218,000 ($A270,840). The chart had been expected to bring in between $US70,000 and $US90,000.



The historic landing of astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin was on July 20, 1969.



Among the highlights of the 350-item auction were three checklists from the landing's descent.



Signed by Aldrin, the lot had been estimated to fetch $US125,000 to $US175,000 but it failed to sell.

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- Andy Warhol

caskur

Whenever they fake up their shit shots of Mars, they're really shots from the Paranal Observatory Chile.



The Observatory is in the mountains which are higher than the clouds. Being higher than clouds means the place has no native plants gracing the terrain ... there is just rocks and so people think it's a Mars surface.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

caskur

here is one of their fake ... on their official site, they state "false color".....lol << which is actual proof they admit to photoshopping.



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This image is presented in false colour, which makes some differences between materials easier to see. The scale bar indicates that the main Comanche outcrop is about 5 meters (16 feet) across from this perspective.



Image Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/Cornell University







That should keep the most hardened sceptic off their backs, right? ....lol





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When I first saw that picture of the supposed "Mars" surface, admitted by NASA to be photo-coloured enhanced, I thought, "where on earth do you see landscape like THAT?" and then tried to find some, myself and I couldn't because there was always bushes and/or clouds....Mars has neither.



well, I found it by accident. One night, I was watching a show about the Observatory in Chile called Paranal....lol and BINGO, I found it... right down to the salmon pink coloured earth,.. do they actually think we're all dumb or something?



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- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

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Quote from: "caskur"It is 100% a replanting solution...



I do not care to nitpick every discussion on it... We have a very very serious problem facing the planet... 1 deforesting 2. plastic pollution.



We have gone way past critical... we are in HUGE HUGE trouble.

Australia and Canada are not responsible for either. But, our dickhead pm wants to make us the sacrificial lamb for both.

Justin Trudeau wants a voluntary ban on plastic straws even though no river in Canada is flowing plastic into the oceans.




Disposable cups and straws should be instantly ceased along with balloons and every other bit of disposable crap.





your own permanent straws (they're made from stainless steel)  and bring your own ceramic cup to coffee shops should be the norm.







This is the correct way to eat out really...  No washing up and 100% biodegradable.



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War on Waste. This is what is left for the next generations to deal with... This is a criminal tragedy.  This is now the new norm and it has to stop.



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That's all fine and good, but tell it to Asian and African countries. Anything Canada does is symbolism.

caskur

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Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "caskur"It is 100% a replanting solution...



I do not care to nitpick every discussion on it... We have a very very serious problem facing the planet... 1 deforesting 2. plastic pollution.



We have gone way past critical... we are in HUGE HUGE trouble.

Australia and Canada are not responsible for either. But, our dickhead pm wants to make us the sacrificial lamb for both.

Justin Trudeau wants a voluntary ban on plastic straws even though no river in Canada is flowing plastic into the oceans.




Disposable cups and straws should be instantly ceased along with balloons and every other bit of disposable crap.





your own permanent straws (they're made from stainless steel)  and bring your own ceramic cup to coffee shops should be the norm.







This is the correct way to eat out really...  No washing up and 100% biodegradable.



https://imgbb.com/">









War on Waste. This is what is left for the next generations to deal with... This is a criminal tragedy.  This is now the new norm and it has to stop.



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That's all fine and good, but tell it to Asian and African countries. Anything Canada does is symbolism.




Don't kid yourself... Oz has been making the same mistake for years and there are just as many littering pigs in Oz and Canada as there is elsewhere.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Bricktop

That is not true.



90% of plastic waste in oceans comes from Africa and Asia.



ALL Australian coastal cities have refuse traps built into the drainage into the sea. Very little plastic waste finds its way into our oceans. Some does...thrown from boats by idiot fisherman or pleasure cruise drunks, but Australia's contribution is miniscule to the global catastrophe.



It's reckless and irresponsible 3rd world countries messing up the sea...



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Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"That is not true.



90% of plastic waste in oceans comes from Africa and Asia.



ALL Australian coastal cities have refuse traps built into the drainage into the sea. Very little plastic waste finds its way into our oceans. Some does...thrown from boats by idiot fisherman or pleasure cruise drunks, but Australia's contribution is miniscule to the global catastrophe.



It's reckless and irresponsible 3rd world countries messing up the sea...



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Actually, it's just ten rivers in Africa and Asia are responsible for 90 per cent of the plastic in our oceans..



Australia, Canada, USA and Europe are not responsible for it.



PLASTIC POLLUTION 90% of plastic in our oceans comes from just TEN rivers

Study finds some of the world's largest rivers, including the Nile and the Yangtze, are responsible for the majority of plastic pollution affecting the sea.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5120820/90-of-plastic-in-our-oceans-comes-from-just-ten-rivers/">https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5120820/9 ... en-rivers/">https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5120820/90-of-plastic-in-our-oceans-comes-from-just-ten-rivers/

Blazor

Quote from: "caskur"
Don't kid yourself... Oz has been making the same mistake for years and there are just as many littering pigs in Oz and Canada as there is elsewhere.


USA too, but I hate it when folks litter. Always reminds me of the crying Indian.



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I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "caskur"
Don't kid yourself... Oz has been making the same mistake for years and there are just as many littering pigs in Oz and Canada as there is elsewhere.


USA too, but I hate it when folks litter. Always reminds me of the crying Indian.



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Only ten rivers Blazor are polluting the oceans with plastic Blazor, and none of them are in North America.

caskur

Quote from: "Bricktop"That is not true.



90% of plastic waste in oceans comes from Africa and Asia.



ALL Australian coastal cities have refuse traps built into the drainage into the sea. Very little plastic waste finds its way into our oceans. Some does...thrown from boats by idiot fisherman or pleasure cruise drunks, but Australia's contribution is miniscule to the global catastrophe.



It's reckless and irresponsible 3rd world countries messing up the sea...



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Asians are responsible in Perth for the rubbish thrown into the river and harbor.....



But since I have been driving in the countryside, the sides of our road are disgusting though bins are provided EVERYWHERE... you cannot take a photo without the green bins in the background somewhere. Australian travelers are filthy pigs... and then you get Melbourne cup day and party days like Australia day and the drunken pigs leave behind their rubbish...



As for Canada, there is a guy on a Canadian island (member of my fb group) who makes small change cashing in rubbish he collects from the roads.  





Everyone has to own it... we're all pigs although I greatly try to reduce my carbon print on the environment.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"That is not true.



90% of plastic waste in oceans comes from Africa and Asia.



ALL Australian coastal cities have refuse traps built into the drainage into the sea. Very little plastic waste finds its way into our oceans. Some does...thrown from boats by idiot fisherman or pleasure cruise drunks, but Australia's contribution is miniscule to the global catastrophe.



It's reckless and irresponsible 3rd world countries messing up the sea...



">

Actually, it's just ten rivers in Africa and Asia are responsible for 90 per cent of the plastic in our oceans..



Australia, Canada, USA and Europe are not responsible for it.



PLASTIC POLLUTION 90% of plastic in our oceans comes from just TEN rivers

Study finds some of the world's largest rivers, including the Nile and the Yangtze, are responsible for the majority of plastic pollution affecting the sea.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5120820/90-of-plastic-in-our-oceans-comes-from-just-ten-rivers/">https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5120820/9 ... en-rivers/">https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5120820/90-of-plastic-in-our-oceans-comes-from-just-ten-rivers/
Exactly. Westerners have to pay for the short sigted, irresponsible behaviour of selfish third world nations.

Blazor

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Only ten rivers Blazor are polluting the oceans with plastic Blazor, and none of them are in North America.


Oh I got that from what you were saying, I was just saying I hate it when folks litter in general, and that it reminds me of the crying Indian every time lol. I was very strict on my son about that, dont litter! Im the guy that likes to get out into nature, and I dont like to see litter. There is a special place in hell for those that litter  :laugh:



Sounds like a good Indian name.... Ten Rivers Blazor  :laugh:
I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Only ten rivers Blazor are polluting the oceans with plastic Blazor, and none of them are in North America.


Oh I got that from what you were saying, I was just saying I hate it when folks litter in general, and that it reminds me of the crying Indian every time lol. I was very strict on my son about that, dont litter! Im the guy that likes to get out into nature, and I dont like to see litter. There is a special place in hell for those that litter  :laugh:



Sounds like a good Indian name.... Ten Rivers Blazor  :laugh:

I pick up refuse other people leave behind when we go camping in the summer.

Blazor

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I pick up refuse other people leave behind when we go camping in the summer.


 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



I do sometimes, all depends. Most the forestry places I go are usually trash free.
I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Blazor"
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I pick up refuse other people leave behind when we go camping in the summer.


 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



I do sometimes, all depends. Most the forestry places I go are usually trash free.

Most camp sites we go to, campers are responsible and if they leave anything behind, campground employees dispose of it..



But, it's on trails and in the bush garbage occasionally gets left behind.