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Unread postPosted: September 4th, 2019, 4:25 pm 
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The government in the UK is a reeking mess because of the very Parliamentary system that underpins their form of democracy and has done for centuries.

Worse, it is the very same system adopted by Australia, Canada, New Zealand and other nations. And these countries should be concerned as they watch the UK's Parliament destroy the foundations of the democracy it is supposed to uphold.

Here's how this mess unfolded.

The UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, in response to many calls for the UK to get out of the European Union, held a referendum asking for the people's decision on the issue.

After much campaigning from both sides, during which it was made clear that a "Leave" decision would separate the UK from the EU WITH NO AGREEMENT OR DEAL if the "Yes" vote prevailed, the people voted to leave.

Cameron, having championed the "Remain" argument, resigned.

What did his Tory party do? They replaced him with ANOTHER campaigner to remain in the EU. In other words, they selected a "Remainer" to spearhead the departure.

Theresa May was an appalling failure who tried to negotiate a departure that was, in effect, a deal to remain in all but name only.

But in the meantime, Parliament passed a law which gave the House (not the government) the final say. So, we may well ask, what is the point of having a government?

Thus, May presented her deal to Parliament three times and was rejected, because the PARLIAMENT is dominated by REMAINERS. In other words, Parliament is ignoring the will of the people in lieu of the individual opinions of the MP's.

This is exactly why democracy is dead.

So, May quits and finally the Tories appoint a Leaver as their PM who has committed to leaving by the deadline set by the EU, deal or no deal...as was proposed in the original referendum.

Now Parliament are trying to pass a Bill to prevent that. Tory MP's have joined the other side to enact the Bill. Johnson then threatens to call a general election, but again Parliament blocks THAT.

Parliamentary democracy is dead. We are witnessing it's death throes. And we in countries that duplicated the UK system should indeed be worried.

We are next.

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Unread postPosted: September 4th, 2019, 4:49 pm 
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It blows my mind how British MP's have thwarted the democratic will of the people. And they have got away with it. And they will continue to do so.

It has been nearly three and a half years since Britons decided to leave the EU. They are no closer to carrying out Brexit. Democracy is a joke.

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Unread postPosted: September 4th, 2019, 5:21 pm 
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This event will reshape British politics for decades to come, and by default our own.

The will of the people has been usurped by politicians who think they know better.

Thus the inevitable demise of democracy.

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Unread postPosted: September 4th, 2019, 5:29 pm 
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Bricktop wrote:
This event will reshape British politics for decades to come, and by default our own.

The will of the people has been usurped by politicians who think they know better.

Thus the inevitable demise of democracy.

It is happening here too. But, this is the most blatant example of elected reps trampling the expressed will of the people. Even more than the democRATs fake Russia-collusion bs.

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Unread postPosted: September 4th, 2019, 6:12 pm 
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I agree.

Much, much worse.

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Unread postPosted: September 4th, 2019, 6:36 pm 
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Bricktop wrote:
The government in the UK is a reeking mess because of the very Parliamentary system that underpins their form of democracy and has done for centuries.

Worse, it is the very same system adopted by Australia, Canada, New Zealand and other nations. And these countries should be concerned as they watch the UK's Parliament destroy the foundations of the democracy it is supposed to uphold.

Here's how this mess unfolded.

The UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, in response to many calls for the UK to get out of the European Union, held a referendum asking for the people's decision on the issue.

After much campaigning from both sides, during which it was made clear that a "Leave" decision would separate the UK from the EU WITH NO AGREEMENT OR DEAL if the "Yes" vote prevailed, the people voted to leave.

Cameron, having championed the "Remain" argument, resigned.

What did his Tory party do? They replaced him with ANOTHER campaigner to remain in the EU. In other words, they selected a "Remainer" to spearhead the departure.

Theresa May was an appalling failure who tried to negotiate a departure that was, in effect, a deal to remain in all but name only.

But in the meantime, Parliament passed a law which gave the House (not the government) the final say. So, we may well ask, what is the point of having a government?

Thus, May presented her deal to Parliament three times and was rejected, because the PARLIAMENT is dominated by REMAINERS. In other words, Parliament is ignoring the will of the people in lieu of the individual opinions of the MP's.

This is exactly why democracy is dead.

So, May quits and finally the Tories appoint a Leaver as their PM who has committed to leaving by the deadline set by the EU, deal or no deal...as was proposed in the original referendum.

Now Parliament are trying to pass a Bill to prevent that. Tory MP's have joined the other side to enact the Bill. Johnson then threatens to call a general election, but again Parliament blocks THAT.

Parliamentary democracy is dead. We are witnessing it's death throes. And we in countries that duplicated the UK system should indeed be worried.

We are next.

I actually had hope when Boris Johnson became leader of the Conservative Party. He is trying, but the entire system in Britain and abroad is against the British people.

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Unread postPosted: September 4th, 2019, 6:58 pm 
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Boris is in dire straights. Most British Parliamentarians refuse to accept the people's decision.

Without the numbers in Parliament, he is a dead duck.

And there is no alternative. The British Labour party is now hell bent on a socialist agenda that intends to wipe out democratic rule.

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Unread postPosted: September 4th, 2019, 7:25 pm 
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Bricktop wrote:
Boris is in dire straights. Most British Parliamentarians refuse to accept the people's decision.

Without the numbers in Parliament, he is a dead duck.

And there is no alternative. The British Labour party is now hell bent on a socialist agenda that intends to wipe out democratic rule.

They even blocked him from holding an election. Corbyn says he is standing up for democracy. :crazy:

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Unread postPosted: September 5th, 2019, 2:07 am 
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Bricktop wrote:
The government in the UK is a reeking mess because of the very Parliamentary system that underpins their form of democracy and has done for centuries.

Worse, it is the very same system adopted by Australia, Canada, New Zealand and other nations. And these countries should be concerned as they watch the UK's Parliament destroy the foundations of the democracy it is supposed to uphold.

Here's how this mess unfolded.

The UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, in response to many calls for the UK to get out of the European Union, held a referendum asking for the people's decision on the issue.

After much campaigning from both sides, during which it was made clear that a "Leave" decision would separate the UK from the EU WITH NO AGREEMENT OR DEAL if the "Yes" vote prevailed, the people voted to leave.

Cameron, having championed the "Remain" argument, resigned.

What did his Tory party do? They replaced him with ANOTHER campaigner to remain in the EU. In other words, they selected a "Remainer" to spearhead the departure.

Theresa May was an appalling failure who tried to negotiate a departure that was, in effect, a deal to remain in all but name only.

But in the meantime, Parliament passed a law which gave the House (not the government) the final say. So, we may well ask, what is the point of having a government?

Thus, May presented her deal to Parliament three times and was rejected, because the PARLIAMENT is dominated by REMAINERS. In other words, Parliament is ignoring the will of the people in lieu of the individual opinions of the MP's.

This is exactly why democracy is dead.

So, May quits and finally the Tories appoint a Leaver as their PM who has committed to leaving by the deadline set by the EU, deal or no deal...as was proposed in the original referendum.

Now Parliament are trying to pass a Bill to prevent that. Tory MP's have joined the other side to enact the Bill. Johnson then threatens to call a general election, but again Parliament blocks THAT.

Parliamentary democracy is dead. We are witnessing it's death throes. And we in countries that duplicated the UK system should indeed be worried.

We are next.

I did not support Brexit. But, the government of David Cameron rolled the dice and lost. The results of the referendum must be delivered.

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Unread postPosted: September 9th, 2019, 4:36 pm 
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Either we live in a democracy, or we don't...at least in the UK.

Anyone who tries to convince you that British society abandoned the Class system decades ago is lying.

It never went away. It just turned to politics.

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Unread postPosted: September 9th, 2019, 4:39 pm 

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Bricktop wrote:
Either we live in a democracy, or we don't...at least in the UK.

Anyone who tries to convince you that British society abandoned the Class system decades ago is lying.

It never went away. It just turned to politics.

Very interesting Bricktop.
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Unread postPosted: September 10th, 2019, 9:37 am 
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The British parliament had no intention of letting Boris Johnson deliver Brexit.

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Unread postPosted: September 10th, 2019, 3:41 pm 
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British MP's are the new aristocracy.

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Unread postPosted: October 17th, 2019, 8:05 pm 
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The European Union has unanimously endorsed a Brexit deal after days of intense see-saw negotiations, but it still needs to be formally approved by both European and U.K. parliaments.

After an intense week of talks and with only two weeks to go until Britain's scheduled departure on Oct. 31, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker broke the tension with a tweet Thursday morning: "We have one! It's a fair and balanced agreement for the EU and the UK and it is testament to our commitment."

The deal found a way to avoid a hard border between Ireland, an EU member, and the U.K.'s Northern Ireland. It crucially also lays a path for Britain's orderly departure.

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Unread postPosted: October 17th, 2019, 9:09 pm 
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Gaon wrote:
The European Union has unanimously endorsed a Brexit deal after days of intense see-saw negotiations, but it still needs to be formally approved by both European and U.K. parliaments.

After an intense week of talks and with only two weeks to go until Britain's scheduled departure on Oct. 31, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker broke the tension with a tweet Thursday morning: "We have one! It's a fair and balanced agreement for the EU and the UK and it is testament to our commitment."

The deal found a way to avoid a hard border between Ireland, an EU member, and the U.K.'s Northern Ireland. It crucially also lays a path for Britain's orderly departure.

Damn, I hope this passes Westminster.

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Unread postPosted: October 18th, 2019, 5:06 am 
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Gaon wrote:
The European Union has unanimously endorsed a Brexit deal after days of intense see-saw negotiations, but it still needs to be formally approved by both European and U.K. parliaments.

After an intense week of talks and with only two weeks to go until Britain's scheduled departure on Oct. 31, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker broke the tension with a tweet Thursday morning: "We have one! It's a fair and balanced agreement for the EU and the UK and it is testament to our commitment."

The deal found a way to avoid a hard border between Ireland, an EU member, and the U.K.'s Northern Ireland. It crucially also lays a path for Britain's orderly departure.

It iooks promising, but I won't hold my breath.

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Unread postPosted: October 18th, 2019, 8:57 am 
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Gaon wrote:
The European Union has unanimously endorsed a Brexit deal after days of intense see-saw negotiations, but it still needs to be formally approved by both European and U.K. parliaments.

After an intense week of talks and with only two weeks to go until Britain's scheduled departure on Oct. 31, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker broke the tension with a tweet Thursday morning: "We have one! It's a fair and balanced agreement for the EU and the UK and it is testament to our commitment."

The deal found a way to avoid a hard border between Ireland, an EU member, and the U.K.'s Northern Ireland. It crucially also lays a path for Britain's orderly departure.

I hope Brits get control over their own borders.

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Unread postPosted: October 18th, 2019, 3:03 pm 
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Gaon wrote:
The European Union has unanimously endorsed a Brexit deal after days of intense see-saw negotiations, but it still needs to be formally approved by both European and U.K. parliaments.

After an intense week of talks and with only two weeks to go until Britain's scheduled departure on Oct. 31, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker broke the tension with a tweet Thursday morning: "We have one! It's a fair and balanced agreement for the EU and the UK and it is testament to our commitment."

The deal found a way to avoid a hard border between Ireland, an EU member, and the U.K.'s Northern Ireland. It crucially also lays a path for Britain's orderly departure.

I hope Brits get control over their own borders.

I did not support Brexit. But, the people spoke. It's been three and a half years and their will still hasn't been carried out.

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Boris Johnson Orders Investigation into George Soros Over Anti-Brexit Campaign Billionaire allegedly funneled millions into campaign to take down British PM Johnson
https://neonnettle.com/news/9419-boris- ... t-campaign

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