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 Post subject: The Green New Deal
Unread postPosted: February 13th, 2019, 1:52 pm 

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Much has been said about it PRO & CON.

But what is it really, in Plain English?

I've looked, and other than the hype promoting or assailing it, haven't found many authentic sources.

So, I went to the source itself.

Here's what's actually been written in the

FINAL Select Committee for a Green New Deal :

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jxU ... obilebasic

Quote:
(6) SCOPE OF THE PLAN FOR A GREEN NEW DEAL AND THE DRAFT LEGISLATION.—

(A) The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall be developed with the objective of reaching the following outcomes within the target window of 10 years from the start of execution of the Plan:
(i) Dramatically expand existing renewable power sources and deploy new production capacity with the goal of meeting 100% of national power demand through renewable sources;
(ii) building a national, energy-efficient, “smart” grid;
(iii) upgrading every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort and safety;
(iv) eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from the manufacturing, agricultural and other industries, including by investing in local-scale agriculture in communities across the country;
(v) eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from, repairing and improving transportation and other infrastructure, and upgrading water infrastructure to ensure universal access to clean water;
(vi) funding massive investment in the drawdown of greenhouse gases;
(vii) making “green” technology, industry, expertise, products and services a major export of the United States, with the aim of becoming the undisputed international leader in helping other countries transition to completely greenhouse gas neutral economies and bringing about a global Green New Deal.



(B) The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that a national, industrial, economic mobilization of this scope and scale is a historic opportunity to virtually eliminate poverty in the United States and to make prosperity, wealth and economic security available to everyone participating in the transformation. In furtherance of the foregoing, the Plan (and the draft legislation) shall:


(i) provide all members of our society, across all regions and all communities, the opportunity, training and education to be a full and equal participant in the transition, including through a job guarantee program to assure a living wage job to every person who wants one;
(ii) diversify local and regional economies, with a particular focus on communities where the fossil fuel industry holds significant control over the labor market, to ensure workers have the necessary tools, opportunities, and economic assistance to succeed during the energy transition;
(iii) require strong enforcement of labor, workplace safety, and wage standards that recognize the rights of workers to organize and unionize free of coercion, intimidation, and harassment, and creation of meaningful, quality, career employment;
(iv) ensure a ‘just transition’ for all workers, low-income communities, communities of color, indigenous communities, rural and urban communities and the front-line communities most affected by climate change, pollution and other environmental harm including by ensuring that local implementation of the transition is led from the community level and by prioritizing solutions that end the harms faced by front-line communities from climate change and environmental pollution;
(v) protect and enforce sovereign rights and land rights of tribal nations;
(vi) mitigate deeply entrenched racial, regional and gender-based inequalities in income and wealth (including, without limitation, ensuring that federal and other investment will be equitably distributed to historically impoverished, low income, deindustrialized or other marginalized communities in such a way that builds wealth and ownership at the community level);
(vii) include additional measures such as basic income programs, universal health care programs and any others as the select committee may deem appropriate to promote economic security, labor market flexibility and entrepreneurism; and
(viii) deeply involve national and local labor unions to take a leadership role in the process of job training and worker deployment.



(C) The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that innovative public and other financing structures are a crucial component in achieving and furthering the goals and guidelines relating to social, economic, racial, regional and gender-based justice and equality and cooperative and public ownership set forth in paragraphs (2)(A)(i) and (6)(B). The Plan (and the draft legislation) shall, accordingly, ensure that the majority of financing of the Plan shall be accomplished by the federal government, using a combination of the Federal Reserve, a new public bank or system of regional and specialized public banks, public venture funds and such other vehicles or structures that the select committee deems appropriate, in order to ensure that interest and other investment returns generated from public investments made in connection with the Plan will be returned to the treasury, reduce taxpayer burden and allow for more investment.


So read for yourself what's really in the 'Deal' and what is right or Not Right fer you.

At thispoint I’m sitting on the fence, undecided.

Like to get more info about it


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 Post subject: Re: The Green New Deal
Unread postPosted: February 13th, 2019, 2:18 pm 
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We have a thread about this directly below this one.
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 Post subject: Re: The Green New Deal
Unread postPosted: February 13th, 2019, 3:07 pm 

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Fashionista wrote:
We have a thread about this directly below this one.
:sneaky2:


Well...everyone here is so down on it, Fashionista, that I thought I'd start a thread devoted to it from a purely objective POV.

Truthfully, I don't fully know what 'the Deal' is all about.

Aside from its initiatives, it seems many American Corporations are already implementing energy saving technologies.

ie - Apple is building solar power stations in the Arizona desert. Google is building wind power stations on the Nebraska prairies, Elon Musk recently released many of Tesla's patents so that others could copy and benefit from them and produce their own electric cars.

So...many of the ideas that Ocasio-Cortez are already being undertaken...in the US private sector and not necessarily by the Government. Even without the Kyoto Accord.

Truthfully, from my layman's POV, I think such initiatives are way too large to be undertaken by government alone

Perhaps one flaw of Ocasio-Cortez's assumptions is that it's up to government to fund the whole plan when this many not be necessary in the long run.

The cost would be astronomical and the taxpayer, esp. in the US would revolt.

Still, what's interesting/notable is what the new technologies portend for the future.

And whether there's an Ocasio-Cortez or a Green Plan or not, major changes seem inevitable.

Especially if these new technologies prove cost-efficient and end up cutting costs and increasing corporate profits.


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 Post subject: Re: The Green New Deal
Unread postPosted: February 13th, 2019, 3:13 pm 
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We had an existing thread directly below this one..

You knew that, so that's why you decided to create another thread about the same thing directly above it..

It's this kind of trolling is why so many people ignore you.


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