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Unread postPosted: November 12th, 2019, 6:40 pm 
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Canada wants to copy Europe's failed energy policies that make people poor and do nothing to stop the climate from changing.

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According to the EU, 54 million people already cannot afford their energy bills

Europe has become a continent where families are often asked to pay exorbitant amounts for basic needs, including energy. That has led to what is known as “energy poverty.” Many are not able to afford household power bills, especially in winter but also during summer heat waves.

The number of Europeans affected by this problem is high. According to the European Union in its 2015 report on rising energy costs, fully 11 per cent of its member states’ population — that’s 54 million people — already cannot afford their energy bills. The EU further estimates that fully one-quarter of residents, or 128 million people (and that includes the existing 54 million), are at risk of being energy poor.

Romania’s energy poverty, for example, clocks in at between 40 and 50 per cent of the population. Spain, Portugal, Estonia, Belgium, Malta, Slovakia, Italy, Ireland and even the United Kingdom record energy-poverty rates of between 20 and 30 per cent of their populations.

As for recessions and incomes, higher energy prices prevent European economies from achieving higher economic growth given that expensive energy restricts the money available for business investment. That slows overall economic growth, which exacerbates existing sluggish economies and lower incomes.

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Unread postPosted: November 12th, 2019, 6:46 pm 
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The previous Ontario government created widespread energy poverty.


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Unread postPosted: November 12th, 2019, 7:23 pm 
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Heat and electricity are overrated. If Saint Greta can live without those unnecessary luxuries, so can the The Iron Chink.

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Unread postPosted: November 12th, 2019, 7:38 pm 
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Shen Li wrote:
Heat and electricity are overrated. If Saint Greta can live without those unnecessary luxuries, so can the The Iron Chink.

Pensioners and people who earn minimum wage have lots of money to waste on artificially high priced energy.

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Unread postPosted: November 12th, 2019, 8:33 pm 
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Herman wrote:
Shen Li wrote:
Heat and electricity are overrated. If Saint Greta can live without those unnecessary luxuries, so can the The Iron Chink.

Pensioners and people who earn minimum wage have lots of money to waste on artificially high priced energy.

I understand taxing non essentials that pose health risks like cigarettes and alcohol..

But, heat and electricity are not unhealthy non essentials.


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Unread postPosted: November 12th, 2019, 8:51 pm 
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Fashionista wrote:
Herman wrote:
Shen Li wrote:
Heat and electricity are overrated. If Saint Greta can live without those unnecessary luxuries, so can the The Iron Chink.

Pensioners and people who earn minimum wage have lots of money to waste on artificially high priced energy.

I understand taxing non essentials that pose health risks like cigarettes and alcohol..

But, heat and electricity are not unhealthy non essentials.

Bite your tongue woman. Swish is essential.

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Unread postPosted: November 12th, 2019, 8:56 pm 
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Herman wrote:
Canada wants to copy Europe's failed energy policies that make people poor and do nothing to stop the climate from changing.

https://business.financialpost.com/opin ... k3M6KVl-LE
According to the EU, 54 million people already cannot afford their energy bills

Europe has become a continent where families are often asked to pay exorbitant amounts for basic needs, including energy. That has led to what is known as “energy poverty.” Many are not able to afford household power bills, especially in winter but also during summer heat waves.

The number of Europeans affected by this problem is high. According to the European Union in its 2015 report on rising energy costs, fully 11 per cent of its member states’ population — that’s 54 million people — already cannot afford their energy bills. The EU further estimates that fully one-quarter of residents, or 128 million people (and that includes the existing 54 million), are at risk of being energy poor.

Romania’s energy poverty, for example, clocks in at between 40 and 50 per cent of the population. Spain, Portugal, Estonia, Belgium, Malta, Slovakia, Italy, Ireland and even the United Kingdom record energy-poverty rates of between 20 and 30 per cent of their populations.

As for recessions and incomes, higher energy prices prevent European economies from achieving higher economic growth given that expensive energy restricts the money available for business investment. That slows overall economic growth, which exacerbates existing sluggish economies and lower incomes.

Progressives did this. They are responsible for all that man made poverty.

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Unread postPosted: December 29th, 2019, 7:12 pm 
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Britain is getting out of the EU at the right time.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/27/wh ... 3UQE63jWtE
Human Costs of the EU’s Green Deal
The real-world costs of this plan are staggering. The EU’s plan also ignores that the single biggest producer of carbon emissions in the world is China. This Green Deal won’t save the environment or pull the world back from disaster, but it will cost a whole lot of money — and wreck economies in the EU that center around fossil fuels, pushing most of the burden on countries that rely on these fuels to run their grids, such as Poland.

Countries like Poland rely heavily on coal for power, with coal making up 80 percent of its energy. The industry is also one of the nation’s largest employers. Ending or sharply decreasing coal mining in Poland results in a real human cost: joblessness, soaring unemployment, and a decrease in the standard of living. It’s easy to see why cutting coal is contentious for the nation.

It’s also the tragic reality that the EU has a growing number of elderly and sick people who are unable to heat and cool their homes, leading to deaths and illnesses that should have been prevented. Where in this plan is care for the most vulnerable citizens of the EU? It’s missing completely.

The Monetary Costs of the Green Deal
The Green Deal comes with money and a plan. €100 billion has been earmarked to help move EU countries away from coal. In addition, they punitively tax pollution-producing industries. This money, and how it should be divided, is causing issues with the very bonds that tie the EU together.

Additionally, current green or renewable energy sources still come with environmental costs. They’re expensive — often exorbitantly so, with each of the 28 member countries needing some €575 billion every year to cover these costs of implementing green energy — and still have negative impacts on wildlife, habitats, and workers involved in sourcing the parts. Even implementing these energy sources doesn’t guarantee ridding emissions problems.

The EU won’t be able to lead by example if other countries can see what its Green Deal is actually headed toward: economic ruin, job loss, and more unwanted governmental regulations and intrusion, rather than altering the climate in a positive fashion. Otherwise, this is all posturing. Expensive posturing.

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Unread postPosted: December 30th, 2019, 7:59 am 
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Hey Odinson, the greenies are going to put you in the poor house.

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Unread postPosted: December 30th, 2019, 11:58 am 
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Herman wrote:
Britain is getting out of the EU at the right time.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/27/wh ... 3UQE63jWtE
Human Costs of the EU’s Green Deal
The real-world costs of this plan are staggering. The EU’s plan also ignores that the single biggest producer of carbon emissions in the world is China. This Green Deal won’t save the environment or pull the world back from disaster, but it will cost a whole lot of money — and wreck economies in the EU that center around fossil fuels, pushing most of the burden on countries that rely on these fuels to run their grids, such as Poland.

Countries like Poland rely heavily on coal for power, with coal making up 80 percent of its energy. The industry is also one of the nation’s largest employers. Ending or sharply decreasing coal mining in Poland results in a real human cost: joblessness, soaring unemployment, and a decrease in the standard of living. It’s easy to see why cutting coal is contentious for the nation.

It’s also the tragic reality that the EU has a growing number of elderly and sick people who are unable to heat and cool their homes, leading to deaths and illnesses that should have been prevented. Where in this plan is care for the most vulnerable citizens of the EU? It’s missing completely.

The Monetary Costs of the Green Deal
The Green Deal comes with money and a plan. €100 billion has been earmarked to help move EU countries away from coal. In addition, they punitively tax pollution-producing industries. This money, and how it should be divided, is causing issues with the very bonds that tie the EU together.

Additionally, current green or renewable energy sources still come with environmental costs. They’re expensive — often exorbitantly so, with each of the 28 member countries needing some €575 billion every year to cover these costs of implementing green energy — and still have negative impacts on wildlife, habitats, and workers involved in sourcing the parts. Even implementing these energy sources doesn’t guarantee ridding emissions problems.

The EU won’t be able to lead by example if other countries can see what its Green Deal is actually headed toward: economic ruin, job loss, and more unwanted governmental regulations and intrusion, rather than altering the climate in a positive fashion. Otherwise, this is all posturing. Expensive posturing.

What a poverty creating, waste of money that does nothing to move the climate needle.

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Unread postPosted: December 30th, 2019, 3:10 pm 
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Herman wrote:
Britain is getting out of the EU at the right time.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/27/wh ... 3UQE63jWtE
Human Costs of the EU’s Green Deal
The real-world costs of this plan are staggering. The EU’s plan also ignores that the single biggest producer of carbon emissions in the world is China. This Green Deal won’t save the environment or pull the world back from disaster, but it will cost a whole lot of money — and wreck economies in the EU that center around fossil fuels, pushing most of the burden on countries that rely on these fuels to run their grids, such as Poland.

Countries like Poland rely heavily on coal for power, with coal making up 80 percent of its energy. The industry is also one of the nation’s largest employers. Ending or sharply decreasing coal mining in Poland results in a real human cost: joblessness, soaring unemployment, and a decrease in the standard of living. It’s easy to see why cutting coal is contentious for the nation.

It’s also the tragic reality that the EU has a growing number of elderly and sick people who are unable to heat and cool their homes, leading to deaths and illnesses that should have been prevented. Where in this plan is care for the most vulnerable citizens of the EU? It’s missing completely.

The Monetary Costs of the Green Deal
The Green Deal comes with money and a plan. €100 billion has been earmarked to help move EU countries away from coal. In addition, they punitively tax pollution-producing industries. This money, and how it should be divided, is causing issues with the very bonds that tie the EU together.

Additionally, current green or renewable energy sources still come with environmental costs. They’re expensive — often exorbitantly so, with each of the 28 member countries needing some €575 billion every year to cover these costs of implementing green energy — and still have negative impacts on wildlife, habitats, and workers involved in sourcing the parts. Even implementing these energy sources doesn’t guarantee ridding emissions problems.

The EU won’t be able to lead by example if other countries can see what its Green Deal is actually headed toward: economic ruin, job loss, and more unwanted governmental regulations and intrusion, rather than altering the climate in a positive fashion. Otherwise, this is all posturing. Expensive posturing.

The radical leftists in the Democratic Party are proposing much of the same madness.

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