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Unread postPosted: October 27th, 2019, 6:32 pm 
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It's long, but it is worth watching.

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Unread postPosted: October 27th, 2019, 7:01 pm 
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I do not deny that the earth has warmed up a bit and that man is at least partly responsible. What is also undeniable is that the alarmists exaggerate. Including the climate "emergency."

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Unread postPosted: October 27th, 2019, 7:25 pm 
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I do not deny that the earth has warmed up a bit and that man is at least partly responsible. What is also undeniable is that the alarmists exaggerate. Including the climate "emergency."

I heard climate emergency a lot during the election.....mostly from Elizabeth May.

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Unread postPosted: October 27th, 2019, 7:36 pm 
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Liz May is a lawyer, not a scientist.

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 10:31 am 

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Herman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C35pasCr6KI&list=FLz6IDmTsSGhIFYaIVHrGFYQ&index=37&t=0s

It's refreshing to see climate change responses haven't succumbed to the mass hysteria that has happened in Canada. The more extreme, the better here.

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 2:14 pm 
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Thiel wrote:
Herman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C35pasCr6KI&list=FLz6IDmTsSGhIFYaIVHrGFYQ&index=37&t=0s

It's refreshing to see climate change responses haven't succumbed to the mass hysteria that has happened in Canada. The more extreme, the better here.

Australia has unity, a balanced budget, no carbon tax, investment, secure borders and lower taxes than us. They are the lucky country.

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 4:22 pm 
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Herman wrote:
Thiel wrote:
Herman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C35pasCr6KI&list=FLz6IDmTsSGhIFYaIVHrGFYQ&index=37&t=0s

It's refreshing to see climate change responses haven't succumbed to the mass hysteria that has happened in Canada. The more extreme, the better here.

Australia has unity, a balanced budget, no carbon tax, investment, secure borders and lower taxes than us. They are the lucky country.

When we applied for permanent residency in Canada, we thought this country had most of that too.

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Unread postPosted: November 11th, 2019, 9:13 am 
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Aint that the truth.

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Unread postPosted: November 19th, 2019, 4:01 am 
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By Walter E Williams

The absolute worst case of professional incompetence and dishonesty is in the area of climate science.

Tony Heller has exposed some of the egregious dishonesty of mainstream environmentalists in a video he’s titled “My Gift To Climate Alarmists.” Environmentalists and their political allies attribute the recent increase in deadly forest fires to global warming.

However, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Forest Service, forest fires reached their peak in the 1930s and have declined by 80% since then. Environmentalists hide the earlier data and make their case for the effects of global warming by showing the public and policymakers data from 1980 that shows an increase in forest fires.

Climate scientists claim that rising sea levels are caused by man-made global warming. Historical data from the tide gauge in Lower Manhattan shows that sea levels have been rising from about the time when Abraham Lincoln was president to now. Heller says that sea levels have been rising for about 20,000 years. He points out that anthropologists believe that when the sea level was very low people were able to walk from Siberia to North America.

Hot weather is often claimed to be a result of manmade climate change. Heller presents data showing the number of days in Waverly, Ohio, above 90 degrees. In 1895, there were 73 days above 90 degrees. In 1936, there were 82 days above 90 degrees.

Since the 1930s, there has been a downward trend in the number of days above 90 degrees. If climatologists hide data from earlier years and started at 1955, they show an increase in the number of above 90-degree days from eight or nine to 30 or 40. Thus, to deceive us into thinking the climate is getting hotter, environmentalists have selected a starting date that fits their agenda.

You might ask: “Who is Tony Heller? Does he work for big oil?” It turns out that he is a scientist and claims to be a lifelong environmentalist.

From what I can tell, he has no vested interests. In that respect, he is different from those who lead the environmental movement, who often either work for or are funded by governments.

Once in a while environmentalists reveal their true agenda. Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC’S fourth summary report released in 2007, speaking in 2010 advised: “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth.”

UN climate chief Christiana Figueres said that the true aim of the UN’S 2014 Paris climate conference was “to change the (capitalist) economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”

Christine Stewart, Canada’s former Minister of the Environment said: “No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits . ... Climate change (provides) the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

Tim Wirth, former U.S.

Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs and the person most responsible for setting up the Kyoto Protocol said: “We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”

Not all scientists are dishonest and not all news reporters are leftists with an agenda. But one wonders at the deafening silence where there’s clear, unambiguous evidence.

For example, if ocean levels have been rising for some 20,000 years, why do scientists allow environmentalists to get away with the claim that it’s a result of man-made global warming? Why aren’t there any reporters to highlight leftist statements such as those by Edenhofer, Stewart and others who want to ride global warming as a means to defeat capitalism and usher in socialism and communism?

I would prefer to think that the silence of so many scientists represent their fears as opposed to their going along with the environmental extremist agenda.

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You can be a climate scientist too

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Unread postPosted: December 2nd, 2019, 4:51 pm 
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Doing our fair share. ac_toofunny

https://blog.friendsofscience.org/2019/ ... aeMM-BSjc8
The sensitivity of the global climate to increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide is far less than assumed by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
The actual movement of average global temperatures over centuries, but especially over the last twenty years, bears no relationship to what the IPCC models predicted.
The most widely-publicized claims about future adverse climate effects are all being proved wrong (e.g. sea levels are rising at 8 inches per century; polar bear populations are thriving).
There have been no increases in extreme weather events, (e.g. hurricanes, floods and droughts) over the last century.
These points are well documented in thousands of peer-reviewed articles and in the publications of the Non-Governmental International Panel on Climate Change.

If Canadians were to “do their share” in reducing carbon dioxide emissions, what would that be a share of? In other words, what is the rest of the world doing? In fact, over the last 25 years, global CO2 emissions from energy consumption grew by 40 per cent, and they continue to rise every year. Over the last decade, 165 of the 195 countries of the world increased their emissions. This is especially true in the developing countries of Asia and the Middle East. Nine of the ten largest country emitters are not on track to meet even the relatively modest emission reduction commitments they made at the United Nations COP21 conference in 2015. China and India alone are on a track to increase their emissions to perhaps 20 billion tonnes per year in 2030.

The poorer countries of the world are determined to increase their economic development and standards of living. To do this they need to gain access to the secure and plentiful energy services provided by fossil fuels that we in the more developed countries take for granted. They will not be deprived of this right because of the concerns of some about carbon dioxide emissions.

The costs to Canada of present policies and programs to reduce emissions are already high, especially in terms of increased electricity rates in provinces that are forcing the introduction of high cost wind and solar energy generation and in Alberta and Saskatchewan where radicals have successfully blocked the construction of additional oil pipelines needed to deliver Canadian oil to export markets. The costs in terms of lost revenues, unemployment, and foregone investment are in the tens of billions of dollars per year.

These costs will only rise far higher if, as now planned, carbon dioxide taxes continue to rise, and governments continue to increase the over 600 programs and regulations already in place to reduce emissions and halt development. This will affect every sector of the economy, not just oil and gas, but also mining, steel, petrochemicals, metal fabrication, auto and parts manufacturing and other emissions-intensive industries, as well as transportation, residential housing, and agriculture. Yet, Canada’s emissions are just 1.6% of the world’s total.

One has to ask why Canadians think they bear responsibility to solve the world’s problems, when we lack the means to do so and the world does not want our “help” anyway. Why do so many share this tragic delusion?

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