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Unread postPosted: December 3rd, 2019, 6:01 pm 
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IPCC is not about science.

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... 6T1tbn63o4
Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare

United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer:

"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole," said Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015.

So what is the goal of environmental policy?

"We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy," said Edenhofer.

For those who want to believe that maybe Edenhofer just misspoke and doesn't really mean that, consider that a little more than five years ago he also said that "the next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world's resources will be negotiated."

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Unread postPosted: December 3rd, 2019, 6:10 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Rtystv7dc&fbclid=IwAR0bNy-4_NzdC3fp4WkTC3K9Kx--SrQkf3_i9U9CmgruPVdp6V9cljoC6fA

I've known about this for a while.

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Unread postPosted: December 4th, 2019, 4:37 pm 
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It's a bit long, but worth watching

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How dare us. ac_toofunny

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She should lead by example and have herself sterilized.

Please, Greta. For Earth.

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She should lead by example and have herself sterilized.

Please, Greta. For Earth.

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Unread postPosted: December 7th, 2019, 2:39 pm 
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This is from Graham Hicks in Edmonton for Sun News Media

A University of Alberta VP was (in effect) fired for approving a billboard that stated an obvious outcome of climate change – that warmer summers on the prairie would mean better barley yields, less water use and feeding more cattle. Her firing was a shot across freedom’s bow.

The same university administration then justified its inaction over the views of Holodomor denier and sessional lecturer Dougal Macdonald, arguing his views were expressed outside the university classroom and his contract must be honoured.

Hmmm … painting a realistic upside of climate change for Alberta leads to a snap dismissal, but denying the cause of one of the 20th century’s greatest crimes – the deliberate starvation of some 10 million Ukrainians – is not enough to terminate an academic contract?

Alberta “progressives” seem to either ignore, or pooh pooh, the radical notion that Alberta’s forward-thinking oil and gas industry is a solution to, not a cause of, global warming.

That our natural gas, exported to Asia, can replace coal in thousands of power plants, dropping emissions by two-thirds. That Canadian oil and gas technology, already dramatically lowering domestic emissions, can reduce carbon emissions the world over.

Instead of being evangelists for the Alberta solution, Edmonton’s city council declares an environmental “emergency” and buys all-electric buses at $1.2 million a pop rather than natural gas-fueled buses for a fraction of the cost.

In the name of “sustainability”, city council is considering a vast industrial solar panel installation in the middle of our verdant, oxygen-emitting, CO2-absorbing river valley park. This is environmental stewardship?

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Patrick Moore is an outstanding climate scientist and ecologist.

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Unread postPosted: December 7th, 2019, 5:32 pm 
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This is from Graham Hicks in Edmonton for Sun News Media

A University of Alberta VP was (in effect) fired for approving a billboard that stated an obvious outcome of climate change – that warmer summers on the prairie would mean better barley yields, less water use and feeding more cattle. Her firing was a shot across freedom’s bow.

The same university administration then justified its inaction over the views of Holodomor denier and sessional lecturer Dougal Macdonald, arguing his views were expressed outside the university classroom and his contract must be honoured.

Hmmm … painting a realistic upside of climate change for Alberta leads to a snap dismissal, but denying the cause of one of the 20th century’s greatest crimes – the deliberate starvation of some 10 million Ukrainians – is not enough to terminate an academic contract?

Alberta “progressives” seem to either ignore, or pooh pooh, the radical notion that Alberta’s forward-thinking oil and gas industry is a solution to, not a cause of, global warming.

That our natural gas, exported to Asia, can replace coal in thousands of power plants, dropping emissions by two-thirds. That Canadian oil and gas technology, already dramatically lowering domestic emissions, can reduce carbon emissions the world over.

Instead of being evangelists for the Alberta solution, Edmonton’s city council declares an environmental “emergency” and buys all-electric buses at $1.2 million a pop rather than natural gas-fueled buses for a fraction of the cost.

In the name of “sustainability”, city council is considering a vast industrial solar panel installation in the middle of our verdant, oxygen-emitting, CO2-absorbing river valley park. This is environmental stewardship?

So many elected leaders choose the most expensive and useless solutions to climate change..

Industry seems to get it, but our politicians are tone deaf.


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Unread postPosted: December 8th, 2019, 1:42 am 
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Fashionista wrote:
seoulbro wrote:
This is from Graham Hicks in Edmonton for Sun News Media

A University of Alberta VP was (in effect) fired for approving a billboard that stated an obvious outcome of climate change – that warmer summers on the prairie would mean better barley yields, less water use and feeding more cattle. Her firing was a shot across freedom’s bow.

The same university administration then justified its inaction over the views of Holodomor denier and sessional lecturer Dougal Macdonald, arguing his views were expressed outside the university classroom and his contract must be honoured.

Hmmm … painting a realistic upside of climate change for Alberta leads to a snap dismissal, but denying the cause of one of the 20th century’s greatest crimes – the deliberate starvation of some 10 million Ukrainians – is not enough to terminate an academic contract?

Alberta “progressives” seem to either ignore, or pooh pooh, the radical notion that Alberta’s forward-thinking oil and gas industry is a solution to, not a cause of, global warming.

That our natural gas, exported to Asia, can replace coal in thousands of power plants, dropping emissions by two-thirds. That Canadian oil and gas technology, already dramatically lowering domestic emissions, can reduce carbon emissions the world over.

Instead of being evangelists for the Alberta solution, Edmonton’s city council declares an environmental “emergency” and buys all-electric buses at $1.2 million a pop rather than natural gas-fueled buses for a fraction of the cost.

In the name of “sustainability”, city council is considering a vast industrial solar panel installation in the middle of our verdant, oxygen-emitting, CO2-absorbing river valley park. This is environmental stewardship?

So many elected leaders choose the most expensive and useless solutions to climate change..

Industry seems to get it, but our politicians are tone deaf.

Because they are owed by prog money. And progs don't give two shits about environmental results. They want control.

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Climate change hoax COLLAPSES as new science finds human activity has virtually zero impact on global temperatures

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-07-12- ... TGdKji9ZW0
The climate change hoax has collapsed. A devastating series of research papers has just been published, revealing that human activity can account for no more than a .01°C rise in global temperatures, meaning that all the human activity targeted by radical climate change alarmists — combustion engines, airplane flights, diesel tractors — has virtually no measurable impact on the temperature of the planet.

Finnish scientists spearheaded the research, releasing a paper entitled, “No Experimental Evidence for the Significant Anthropogenic Climate Change.”

The paper explains that IPCC analysis of global temperatures suffers from a glaring error — namely, failure to account for “influences of low cloud cover” and how it impacts global temperatures. Natural variations in low cloud cover, which are strongly influenced by cosmic radiation’s ability to penetrate Earth’s atmosphere due to variations in the strength of our planet’s magnetosphere, account for nearly all changes in global temperature, the researchers explain.

Cloud cover accounts for the real changes in global temperatures
This is further supported by researchers at Kobe University in Japan who published a nearly simultaneous paper that reveals how changes in our planet’s magnetic field govern the intensity of solar radiation that reaches the lower atmosphere, causing cloud formation that alters global temperatures.

That study, published in Nature, is called, “Intensified East Asian winter monsoon during the last geomagnetic reversal transition.” It states:

Records of suborbital-scale climate variation during the last glacial and Holocene periods can be used to elucidate the mechanisms of rapid climate changes… At least one event was associated with a decrease in the strength of the Earth’s magnetic field. Thus, climate records from the MIS 19 interglacial can be used to elucidate the mechanisms of a variety of climate changes, including testing the effect of changes in geomagnetic dipole field strength on climate through galactic cosmic ray (GCR)-induced cloud formation…

In effect, cosmic rays which are normally deflected via the magnetosphere are, in times of weak or changing magnetic fields emanating from Earth itself, able to penetrate further into Earth’s atmosphere, causing the formation of low-level clouds which cover the land in a kind of “umbrella effect” that shades the land from the sun, allowing cooling to take place. But a lack of clouds makes the surface hotter, as would be expected. This natural phenomenon is now documented to be the primary driver of global temperatures and climate, not human activity.

Burn all the oil you want, in other words, and it’s still just a drop in the bucket compared to the power of the sun and other cosmic influences. All the fossil fuel consumption in the world barely contributes anything to actual global temperatures, the researchers confirmed.

As they explain, the IPCC’s climate models are wildly overestimating the influence of carbon dioxide on global temperatures:

Climate change hoax COLLAPSES as new science finds human activity has virtually zero impact on global temperatures

The climate change hoax has collapsed. A devastating series of research papers has just been published, revealing that human activity can account for no more than a .01°C rise in global temperatures, meaning that all the human activity targeted by radical climate change alarmists — combustion engines, airplane flights, diesel tractors — has virtually no measurable impact on the temperature of the planet.

Finnish scientists spearheaded the research, releasing a paper entitled, “No Experimental Evidence for the Significant Anthropogenic Climate Change.”

The paper explains that IPCC analysis of global temperatures suffers from a glaring error — namely, failure to account for “influences of low cloud cover” and how it impacts global temperatures. Natural variations in low cloud cover, which are strongly influenced by cosmic radiation’s ability to penetrate Earth’s atmosphere due to variations in the strength of our planet’s magnetosphere, account for nearly all changes in global temperature, the researchers explain.

Cloud cover accounts for the real changes in global temperatures
This is further supported by researchers at Kobe University in Japan who published a nearly simultaneous paper that reveals how changes in our planet’s magnetic field govern the intensity of solar radiation that reaches the lower atmosphere, causing cloud formation that alters global temperatures.

That study, published in Nature, is called, “Intensified East Asian winter monsoon during the last geomagnetic reversal transition.” It states:

Records of suborbital-scale climate variation during the last glacial and Holocene periods can be used to elucidate the mechanisms of rapid climate changes… At least one event was associated with a decrease in the strength of the Earth’s magnetic field. Thus, climate records from the MIS 19 interglacial can be used to elucidate the mechanisms of a variety of climate changes, including testing the effect of changes in geomagnetic dipole field strength on climate through galactic cosmic ray (GCR)-induced cloud formation…

In effect, cosmic rays which are normally deflected via the magnetosphere are, in times of weak or changing magnetic fields emanating from Earth itself, able to penetrate further into Earth’s atmosphere, causing the formation of low-level clouds which cover the land in a kind of “umbrella effect” that shades the land from the sun, allowing cooling to take place. But a lack of clouds makes the surface hotter, as would be expected. This natural phenomenon is now documented to be the primary driver of global temperatures and climate, not human activity.

Burn all the oil you want, in other words, and it’s still just a drop in the bucket compared to the power of the sun and other cosmic influences. All the fossil fuel consumption in the world barely contributes anything to actual global temperatures, the researchers confirmed.

As they explain, the IPCC’s climate models are wildly overestimating the influence of carbon dioxide on global temperatures:

…the [IPCC] models fail to derive the influences of low cloud cover fraction on the global temperature. A too small natural component results in a too large portion for the contribution of the greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide. That is why J. KAUPPINEN AND P. MALMI IPCC represents the climate sensitivity more than one order of magnitude larger than our sensitivity 0.24°C. Because the anthropogenic portion in the increased CO2 is less than 10%, we have practically no anthropogenic climate change. The low clouds control mainly the global temperature.

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Unread postPosted: December 26th, 2019, 2:25 pm 
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I don't know Herm. I do agree that the IPCC cannot be trusted as their computer modelling grossly overestimates the influence of C02 on climate.

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Unread postPosted: December 26th, 2019, 3:32 pm 
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The IPCC arrives at a conclusion first and works backwards to support it.I don't trust them.

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