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Unread postPosted: September 22nd, 2019, 6:32 pm 
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PM accused of using hurtful Indigenous stereotypes in description of boxing match in magazine interview

Trudeau has been criticized by Indigenous activists for the way he described Brazeau, an Indigenous senator, to the U.S. magazine when discussing a charity boxing match held in 2012.

"I wanted someone who would be a good foil, and we stumbled upon the scrappy tough-guy senator from an Indigenous community. He fit the bill, and it was a very nice counterpoint," Trudeau told Rolling Stone.

Cindy Blackstock, a prominent activist for First Nations children, says she hopes this is a learning moment for Trudeau, as his original comments are concerning.

"They reinforce this whole dichotomy, colonial dichotomy, of the savage and the civilized. The savage being Indigenous peoples and the civilized being the colonial forces," Blackstock told CBC News in a phone interview.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudea ... pphndgBPE0

Trudeau has gone from labelling Conservatives as racist to being revealed as a racist himself. Now he's claiming all Canadians are racist. Vote this arrogant, inept, self entitled, racist narcissist out.

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Unread postPosted: September 22nd, 2019, 8:39 pm 

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Justin Trudeau appears to look down on working people, on racial minorities, and women who disagree with him.


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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 3:01 am 
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Fashionista wrote:
Justin Trudeau appears to look down on working people, on racial minorities, and women who disagree with him.


He sounds like a little wanker.


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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 3:38 am 
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caskur wrote:
Fashionista wrote:
Justin Trudeau appears to look down on working people, on racial minorities, and women who disagree with him.


He sounds like a little wanker.

You nailed it sister. If he was not a rich pretty boy with a famous name, he would not even be an MP let alone the pm. Justine is an unqualified, entitled air head. He gives not two fucks about people who work for a living.

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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 4:04 am 
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Well he isn't a true leftist then.


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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 4:07 am 
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Well he isn't a true leftist then.

Depends what you mean by leftist. Old Jock is a traditional socialist, but he hates liberals. Trudeau is a champagne socialist and a hard core progtard. In fact, no Western leader has ever been as progtardy as Justiine. The modern leftist movement is controlled by billionaires.

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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 4:26 am 

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Herman wrote:
caskur wrote:
Well he isn't a true leftist then.

Depends what you mean by leftist. Old Jock is a traditional socialist, but he hates liberals. Trudeau is a champagne socialist and a hard core progtard. In fact, no Western leader has ever been as progtardy as Justiine. The modern leftist movement is controlled by billionaires.

Politics has become more nuanced...old labels are not always applicable today..

It's happening in Taiwan too.


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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 6:36 am 
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Fashionista wrote:
Herman wrote:
caskur wrote:
Well he isn't a true leftist then.

Depends what you mean by leftist. Old Jock is a traditional socialist, but he hates liberals. Trudeau is a champagne socialist and a hard core progtard. In fact, no Western leader has ever been as progtardy as Justiine. The modern leftist movement is controlled by billionaires.

Politics has become more nuanced...old labels are not always applicable today..

It's happening in Taiwan too.


This is true.

The lines have blurred.

When I think of leftist, I think of hard working people who sought to better their working conditions.


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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 11:41 am 
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Somebody finally asked the question, and Turdy refused to answer except with a rehearsed line


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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 1:08 pm 
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caskur wrote:
Fashionista wrote:
Herman wrote:
caskur wrote:
Well he isn't a true leftist then.

Depends what you mean by leftist. Old Jock is a traditional socialist, but he hates liberals. Trudeau is a champagne socialist and a hard core progtard. In fact, no Western leader has ever been as progtardy as Justiine. The modern leftist movement is controlled by billionaires.

Politics has become more nuanced...old labels are not always applicable today..

It's happening in Taiwan too.


This is true.

The lines have blurred.

When I think of leftist, I think of hard working people who sought to better their working conditions.

In 1969, the year I was born, that was true. The socialist workers movement has been bought by progressive billionaires. They are much worse than fiscal conservatives like seoulbro. Progs hate working peoole.

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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 4:01 pm 
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My great grandfather (fathers side) was Secretary of the Railway Union... when he died he got a state funeral and the Labor Cabinet were his pall bearers including the then Labor Premier Collier who was in fact the longest serving Labor Premier EVER.

Politicians these days are full of worthless crooks I wouldn't urinate on them if they were on fire. Thinking about them makes me physically ill.


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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 4:34 pm 

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iron horse jockey wrote:
caskur wrote:
Fashionista wrote:
Herman wrote:
caskur wrote:
Well he isn't a true leftist then.

Depends what you mean by leftist. Old Jock is a traditional socialist, but he hates liberals. Trudeau is a champagne socialist and a hard core progtard. In fact, no Western leader has ever been as progtardy as Justiine. The modern leftist movement is controlled by billionaires.

Politics has become more nuanced...old labels are not always applicable today..

It's happening in Taiwan too.


This is true.

The lines have blurred.

When I think of leftist, I think of hard working people who sought to better their working conditions.

In 1969, the year I was born, that was true. The socialist workers movement has been bought by progressive billionaires. They are much worse than fiscal conservatives like seoulbro. Progs hate working peoole.

I'm a member of the provincial civil service union..

They give a portion of our dues to a progressive party eben though many union members don't vote for them.


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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 5:57 pm 
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caskur wrote:
My great grandfather (fathers side) was Secretary of the Railway Union... when he died he got a state funeral and the Labor Cabinet were his pall bearers including the then Labor Premier Collier who was in fact the longest serving Labor Premier EVER.

Politicians these days are full of worthless crooks I wouldn't urinate on them if they were on fire. Thinking about them makes me physically ill.

I used to be proud of my union and my socialist party. Not anymore. They have been hijacked by progressive money. Progs are the enemy of blue collar people.

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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 6:25 pm 
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iron horse jockey wrote:
caskur wrote:
My great grandfather (fathers side) was Secretary of the Railway Union... when he died he got a state funeral and the Labor Cabinet were his pall bearers including the then Labor Premier Collier who was in fact the longest serving Labor Premier EVER.

Politicians these days are full of worthless crooks I wouldn't urinate on them if they were on fire. Thinking about them makes me physically ill.

I used to be proud of my union and my socialist party. Not anymore. They have been hijacked by progressive money. Progs are the enemy of blue collar people.


Look, I know the people here like to separate right and left but there is no separation for me...

It's THE GOVERNMENT and they just change the jockey.

The only thing I can do to protect my sanity for politics is to involve myself with hobbies I love.


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Unread postPosted: September 23rd, 2019, 7:05 pm 

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caskur wrote:
iron horse jockey wrote:
caskur wrote:
My great grandfather (fathers side) was Secretary of the Railway Union... when he died he got a state funeral and the Labor Cabinet were his pall bearers including the then Labor Premier Collier who was in fact the longest serving Labor Premier EVER.

Politicians these days are full of worthless crooks I wouldn't urinate on them if they were on fire. Thinking about them makes me physically ill.

I used to be proud of my union and my socialist party. Not anymore. They have been hijacked by progressive money. Progs are the enemy of blue collar people.


Look, I know the people here like to separate right and left but there is no separation for me...

It's THE GOVERNMENT and they just change the jockey.

The only thing I can do to protect my sanity for politics is to involve myself with hobbies I love.

I'm not so sue about that caskur..

There are people here that acknowledge the old left-right divide is dead and something new has emerged.


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Unread postPosted: September 24th, 2019, 10:07 am 
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There was a brief moment where it seemed like Prime Minister Justin Trudeau understood the magnitude of what he had done. That was the very night the first blackface story broke, when Trudeau stood in front of the cameras on his airplane and offered an apology and denounced his own past actions as racist.

The question would then be up to voters for them to determine whether they forgive him or not. That was before things got worse. Much worse.

We have since learned there were a couple of other instances of blackface. And maybe more, as Trudeau has declined to clarify.

His attitude in response, as he’s been dogged by reporters and protesters, has also changed. He’s become somewhat defiant. He’s no longer accepting total blame. He’s now trying to shirk responsibility by blaming society.

Trudeau was asked for more specifics about his blackface antics by a reporter on Sunday and this was his response: “I think there are a lot of Canadians through the past days who are reflecting on and learning more about the racist history of blackface. And that is something that certainly is something that we are all talking about and I am certainly reflecting on deeply.”

This answer doesn’t just show contempt for the media and public in its shameless refusal to dodge the question and offer up real answers. It also shows contempt for the public by trying to force them to shoulder the blame.

Here the PM is suggesting that many Canadians did not know blackface was wrong. He’s lumping us all in with him and suggesting that he’s provided a learning opportunity for the nation.

rubbish. Trudeau wore blackface. Full stop. This is not about “us” or “we” or any sort of national conversation.

The 1990s was not the age of segregation, some sort of pre-civil rights era, where regular citizens were ignorant of race relations. It’s an insult to anyone in their 30s and older to suggest that they did not know blackface was socially unacceptable at the time.

Trudeau needs to shoulder the blame himself and leave everyone else out of it.

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Unread postPosted: September 24th, 2019, 10:12 am 
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What Trudeau should have said.

By former Liberal strategist Warren Kinsella

My fellow Liberals, my fellow Canadians. Last week, I spoke about the scandal that has hit my campaign. I didn’t do it right, so I’m now going to try again.

First things first: Over and over, I used the wrong pronoun. I talked about how “we,” as a country, need to do better. How “we” need to be less racist.

I got that wrong. I shouldn’t have said “we.” I should have said “I.” Because I — not we — was the one who smeared stuff all over my face and my body and mocked black people.

It was I — not we — who was racist. Me. Repeatedly — as a high school student in Montreal, and then as a teacher of high school students in Vancouver.

When I was 30 years old. When I was a man, not a boy. When I was supposed to know better. In the video that came out, everyone focused on the blackface-style racism, and they should have. But they missed something, maybe because the video was grainy. In it, I’m wearing a T-shirt with bananas on the front. I’ve stuffed something down the front of my jeans. And I jump around like an ape. I did all of that to communicate something that I’m amazed so many of you missed. I did it to suggest that blacks are apes. Which was the worst kind of racism.

Oh, in case you are wondering if I did blackface more than those three times, the answer is yes: I did. I repeatedly, and gleefully, acted like a racist. I can’t remember every detail because I was wasted.

The people who work for me have all forgiven me, of course. What do you expect? When the boss asks people for forgiveness, they will always give it.

But I must say that Liberal MPS of colour — Navdeep Bains, Omar Alghabra, Greg Fergus — surprised even me with how speedily they pronounced me without sin. I think we all know that if Andrew Scheer had done blackface on Halloween at the age of five, Navdeep, Omar and Greg would be convening a Human Rights Tribunal right now to have Scheer thrown in a gulag in Nunavut for the rest his life.

Because blackface is racist. What I did was racist. I wanted to communicate that black people are worthy of mockery. That they are apes. That they belong in cages. That’s as racist as it gets.

Now, last week, I tried to excuse away my racism by saying I was a child of privilege. That I had grown up with a “blind spot” about such things. But we all know that’s a lie. Growing up rich, and going to the best schools — being a child of privilege — doesn’t excuse my racism. In fact, it’s the reverse: It makes my racism all the more wrong. I, growing up in the house of the man who gave Canada a Charter of Rights, should have known better.

Anyway, words are cheap. I apologize for stuff all the time, to the point where the apologies have no meaning anymore. All that matters is actions, not words.

So, I will now do what I should’ve done last week. I intend to resign the office of the Prime Minister soon after the election, win or lose. And, by the way, I’m amazed I could still win it. That says a lot more about Canadians than it does about me, frankly.

So, there you go. I need time to get away and learn to be a better dad, a better husband, a better man. I can’t do that as Prime Minister of Canada.

Because words can’t excuse what I did. Because what I did was racist.

Thank you.

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Unread postPosted: September 24th, 2019, 2:44 pm 

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I don't know nor care if Trudeau is a secret racist or not. He is inept, out of touch, and intolerant of opinions different from his own. I would never vote for anyone with such disregard for liberty.

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