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Unread postPosted: March 30th, 2019, 6:50 am 
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iron horse jockey wrote:
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Why the hell is illegal immigration so high right now?
I don;t know I know its mostly south americans with children. It may be because they have heard the asylum scam gets them in, which it does.

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A million and a half illegals is a national emergency. This issue should be the priority of both parties. Stop the flow of illegals. Do it now. Deploy the army at the border, and build that wall.

Maybe there's an even better way. Close the border, see below.

I think most of the illegals and fake refugees are Central Americans from hell holes like Honduras and Guatamala.
Yes, my mistake, that's most of them.


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Unread postPosted: March 30th, 2019, 6:53 am 
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Exclusive–Michelle Malkin to Trump: No More ‘Empty Threats’ on Immigration, Border
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... on-border/

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I don’t want to hear empty threats anymore about how he’s going to do what he should have done many, many, many months ago. The fact that you have a massive number now of … strangers bringing in children, tells you that the very magnet that he says he understands is causing this. The failure to just go ahead executively and fix the asylum system, proves him right on that and yet he’s not doing what he can do as president with his executive authority.

Here’s my fear, is that you know the conventional establishment talking point this week on immigration — even as these hordes of people are coming in unprecedented numbers — is ‘Oh, we got a few billion from the Pentagon for the fencing.’ And it just lulls the base into this false sense of hope that something is being done when we could have Congresspeople in Washington, themselves, putting pressure on Trump to exercise his inherent executive authority to actually do more than just put a few more dozen miles of physical barriers. And I’m not saying that we don’t need [a wall] but what needs to happen is that the policies need to change.

More blame for the levels of illegal immigration the country is currently experiencing should be placed with elected Republicans, Malkin said, who failed to take any action on immigration while controlling the House and Senate for the first two years of Trump’s term. “Faux pro-borders Republicans … deserve a heck of a lot more scrutiny and condemnation for putting us in the situation that we’re in,” Malkin said.


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Unread postPosted: March 30th, 2019, 9:12 am 
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Exclusive–Michelle Malkin to Trump: No More ‘Empty Threats’ on Immigration, Border
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... on-border/

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I don’t want to hear empty threats anymore about how he’s going to do what he should have done many, many, many months ago. The fact that you have a massive number now of … strangers bringing in children, tells you that the very magnet that he says he understands is causing this. The failure to just go ahead executively and fix the asylum system, proves him right on that and yet he’s not doing what he can do as president with his executive authority.

Here’s my fear, is that you know the conventional establishment talking point this week on immigration — even as these hordes of people are coming in unprecedented numbers — is ‘Oh, we got a few billion from the Pentagon for the fencing.’ And it just lulls the base into this false sense of hope that something is being done when we could have Congresspeople in Washington, themselves, putting pressure on Trump to exercise his inherent executive authority to actually do more than just put a few more dozen miles of physical barriers. And I’m not saying that we don’t need [a wall] but what needs to happen is that the policies need to change.

More blame for the levels of illegal immigration the country is currently experiencing should be placed with elected Republicans, Malkin said, who failed to take any action on immigration while controlling the House and Senate for the first two years of Trump’s term. “Faux pro-borders Republicans … deserve a heck of a lot more scrutiny and condemnation for putting us in the situation that we’re in,” Malkin said.

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Unread postPosted: March 31st, 2019, 7:11 am 
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Mexico braces for new caravan of Central American migrants
https://www.apnews.com/597b194af93c473aa4f041a4462788d8
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“We have information that a new caravan is forming in Honduras, that they’re calling ‘the mother of all caravans,’ and they are thinking it could have more than 20,000 people,” Sanchez Cordero said Wednesday.


Migrants overwhelm Texas cities
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 309462002/
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“It’s staggering,” McAllen City Manager Roy Rodriguez said. “Really, we’ve never seen anything like this before.”

Along the Texas border with Mexico – from El Paso to Eagle Pass to the Rio Grande Valley – masses of migrants have been crossing the border in unprecedented numbers, overwhelming federal holding facilities and sending local leaders and volunteers scrambling to deal with the relentless waves of people.


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Unread postPosted: March 31st, 2019, 10:09 am 
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Mexico braces for new caravan of Central American migrants
https://www.apnews.com/597b194af93c473aa4f041a4462788d8
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“We have information that a new caravan is forming in Honduras, that they’re calling ‘the mother of all caravans,’ and they are thinking it could have more than 20,000 people,” Sanchez Cordero said Wednesday.


Migrants overwhelm Texas cities
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 309462002/
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“It’s staggering,” McAllen City Manager Roy Rodriguez said. “Really, we’ve never seen anything like this before.”

Along the Texas border with Mexico – from El Paso to Eagle Pass to the Rio Grande Valley – masses of migrants have been crossing the border in unprecedented numbers, overwhelming federal holding facilities and sending local leaders and volunteers scrambling to deal with the relentless waves of people.

It's not getting much coverage in the Canadian media.

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Unread postPosted: April 2nd, 2019, 8:01 am 
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seoulbro wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
Mexico braces for new caravan of Central American migrants
https://www.apnews.com/597b194af93c473aa4f041a4462788d8
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“We have information that a new caravan is forming in Honduras, that they’re calling ‘the mother of all caravans,’ and they are thinking it could have more than 20,000 people,” Sanchez Cordero said Wednesday.


Migrants overwhelm Texas cities
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 309462002/
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“It’s staggering,” McAllen City Manager Roy Rodriguez said. “Really, we’ve never seen anything like this before.”

Along the Texas border with Mexico – from El Paso to Eagle Pass to the Rio Grande Valley – masses of migrants have been crossing the border in unprecedented numbers, overwhelming federal holding facilities and sending local leaders and volunteers scrambling to deal with the relentless waves of people.

It's not getting much coverage in the Canadian media.
Understandable since it doesn't really affect Canadians. It looks like Trudeau has chilled with letting illegals into Canada. If he wins, though, I am betting he will go back to normalizing illegal immigration again.


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Unread postPosted: April 2nd, 2019, 8:04 am 
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Mexico won't block caravans from entering through Guatemala, top official says
https://thehill.com/latino/436817-mexic ... icial-says

And of course they will be headed here after that. Mexico is brazenly responding to Trump's ultimatum that Mexico must do something to stop illegal immigration. They are calling trump's bluff to close the border unless Mexico does something.

Trump needs to stop making idle threats and bluffing, nobody is falling for it.

Close the border until congress fixes a broken immigration system.


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Unread postPosted: April 2nd, 2019, 8:10 am 
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Wazzzup wrote:
seoulbro wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
Mexico braces for new caravan of Central American migrants
https://www.apnews.com/597b194af93c473aa4f041a4462788d8
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“We have information that a new caravan is forming in Honduras, that they’re calling ‘the mother of all caravans,’ and they are thinking it could have more than 20,000 people,” Sanchez Cordero said Wednesday.


Migrants overwhelm Texas cities
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 309462002/
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“It’s staggering,” McAllen City Manager Roy Rodriguez said. “Really, we’ve never seen anything like this before.”

Along the Texas border with Mexico – from El Paso to Eagle Pass to the Rio Grande Valley – masses of migrants have been crossing the border in unprecedented numbers, overwhelming federal holding facilities and sending local leaders and volunteers scrambling to deal with the relentless waves of people.

It's not getting much coverage in the Canadian media.
Understandable since it doesn't really affect Canadians. It looks like Trudeau has chilled with letting illegals into Canada. If he wins, though, I am betting he will go back to normalizing illegal immigration again.

Trudeau is not doing anything about it. This is from August, but there hasn't been any big policy changes.

Illegal border crossings from U.S. increase by nearly 23 per cent from June to July
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politic ... cent-from/

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Unread postPosted: April 2nd, 2019, 12:14 pm 
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The US could run out of avocados if Trump closes the border. More importantly, Democrats could run out of illegal voters.

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Unread postPosted: April 5th, 2019, 6:48 am 
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As President Donald Trump threatens to shut down the U.S.-Mexico border, some of the highest-ranking Texans from within his own party are warning about the consequences of doing so.

"Closing the border to legal commerce would be devastating to Texas," U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, said in a statement Wednesday evening. "Millions of jobs, in Texas and across the country, depend upon trade with Mexico, and the federal government shouldn’t do anything to jeopardize those jobs."


Well there you go. The highest number of illegals coming in in ten years and apparently no one will stop it.

Trumps response is to put tarriffs on cars a year from now :001_rolleyes:

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“If the drugs don’t stop — Mexico can stop them if they want to — we are going to tariff the cars. The cars are very big, and if that doesn’t work we are going to close the border,” Trump said at the White House. “We are going to give them a one-year warning.”


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Unread postPosted: April 5th, 2019, 8:42 am 
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As President Donald Trump threatens to shut down the U.S.-Mexico border, some of the highest-ranking Texans from within his own party are warning about the consequences of doing so.

"Closing the border to legal commerce would be devastating to Texas," U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, said in a statement Wednesday evening. "Millions of jobs, in Texas and across the country, depend upon trade with Mexico, and the federal government shouldn’t do anything to jeopardize those jobs."


Well there you go. The highest number of illegals coming in in ten years and apparently no one will stop it.

Trumps response is to put tarriffs on cars a year from now :001_rolleyes:

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“If the drugs don’t stop — Mexico can stop them if they want to — we are going to tariff the cars. The cars are very big, and if that doesn’t work we are going to close the border,” Trump said at the White House. “We are going to give them a one-year warning.”

I know you blame the Democrats for not wanting to stop illegal immigration, but the Republicans are no better. Agriculture and construction are dependent on the cheap labour illegal immigration provides.

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Unread postPosted: April 5th, 2019, 9:22 am 
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seoulbro wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
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As President Donald Trump threatens to shut down the U.S.-Mexico border, some of the highest-ranking Texans from within his own party are warning about the consequences of doing so.

"Closing the border to legal commerce would be devastating to Texas," U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, said in a statement Wednesday evening. "Millions of jobs, in Texas and across the country, depend upon trade with Mexico, and the federal government shouldn’t do anything to jeopardize those jobs."


Well there you go. The highest number of illegals coming in in ten years and apparently no one will stop it.

Trumps response is to put tarriffs on cars a year from now :001_rolleyes:

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“If the drugs don’t stop — Mexico can stop them if they want to — we are going to tariff the cars. The cars are very big, and if that doesn’t work we are going to close the border,” Trump said at the White House. “We are going to give them a one-year warning.”

I know you blame the Democrats for not wanting to stop illegal immigration, but the Republicans are no better. Agriculture and construction are dependent on the cheap labour illegal immigration provides.
As has been said here many times, there is no right in North America. Among republican voters illegal immigration is the number one issue and they do NOTHING to stop it. They refuse to represent their voters.

I think Trump should have set a deadline for closing the border and told congress do something or the border gets closed. Maybe there's another way but I don't know what it would be.


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Unread postPosted: April 5th, 2019, 9:28 am 
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Among republican voters illegal immigration is the number one issue and they do NOTHING to stop it. They refuse to represent their voters.

It is is it? That makes sense, there's full employment, taxes have come down and there is no national carbon tax.

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As President Donald Trump threatens to shut down the U.S.-Mexico border, some of the highest-ranking Texans from within his own party are warning about the consequences of doing so.

"Closing the border to legal commerce would be devastating to Texas," U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, said in a statement Wednesday evening. "Millions of jobs, in Texas and across the country, depend upon trade with Mexico, and the federal government shouldn’t do anything to jeopardize those jobs."


Well there you go. The highest number of illegals coming in in ten years and apparently no one will stop it.

Trumps response is to put tarriffs on cars a year from now :001_rolleyes:

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“If the drugs don’t stop — Mexico can stop them if they want to — we are going to tariff the cars. The cars are very big, and if that doesn’t work we are going to close the border,” Trump said at the White House. “We are going to give them a one-year warning.”

Any temporary pain(avocado shortage) will be mitigated by the savings that each illegal costs American taxpayers.

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Or, they can buy their avocados from US!!!

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Not doing anything about Illegal immigration is morally repugnant.

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Or, they can buy their avocados from US!!!

Republicans and Democrats will have nobody to shine their shitters.

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Unread postPosted: April 7th, 2019, 9:32 am 
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This is what Trump should do-- Shut down the border to all immigration, but allow commerce. Then tell congress he will open it again when they have fully funded the wall and do something to fix the ridiculous asylum laws.


We can keep the ports open to commerce, secure our borders, and eat our avocados too
https://www.conservativereview.com/news ... cados-too/
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The media is missing the point about the president’s inherent and delegated authority to deny entry at the border and the most prudent way to use it. Through statute and case law, the president’s 212(f) authority overrides all other immigration processes, including asylum requests, but it’s important to remember that it’s not an all-or-nothing proposition. It’s not an on-or-off circuit breaker on the operation of our border. There are modules on that switch that the president can engage to strategically address the current situation.

Let’s again review the language of the relevant statute, 8 U.S.C. §1182(f):
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Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

Even if the rest of the general operating statutes were broken (they are not), this statute alone supplies the president with all the authority he needs to deal with such an urgent and devastating crisis, at least in the relative short run. If members of Congress were to get together and craft a new law with the intent of giving the president more power to shut down what is happening today, they could not conceivably have written anything strong than this existing law, which has been in place, in some form, since 1893, particularly to keep out those with diseases.

The law is saying that the president can shut down all migration or any type of migration, while leaving others in place.


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Unread postPosted: April 7th, 2019, 9:33 am 
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This is what Trump should do-- Shut down the border to all immigration, but allow commerce. Then tell congress he will open it again when they have fully funded the wall and do something to fix the ridiculous asylum laws.


We can keep the ports open to commerce, secure our borders, and eat our avocados too
https://www.conservativereview.com/news ... cados-too/
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The media is missing the point about the president’s inherent and delegated authority to deny entry at the border and the most prudent way to use it. Through statute and case law, the president’s 212(f) authority overrides all other immigration processes, including asylum requests, but it’s important to remember that it’s not an all-or-nothing proposition. It’s not an on-or-off circuit breaker on the operation of our border. There are modules on that switch that the president can engage to strategically address the current situation.

Let’s again review the language of the relevant statute, 8 U.S.C. §1182(f):

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Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
Even if the rest of the general operating statutes were broken (they are not), this statute alone supplies the president with all the authority he needs to deal with such an urgent and devastating crisis, at least in the relative short run. If members of Congress were to get together and craft a new law with the intent of giving the president more power to shut down what is happening today, they could not conceivably have written anything strong than this existing law, which has been in place, in some form, since 1893, particularly to keep out those with diseases.


The law is saying that the president can shut down all migration or any type of migration, while leaving others in place.

Just do it.

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Unread postPosted: April 9th, 2019, 3:40 pm 
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White house plans to target remittance payments.

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The White House is planning on targeting remittance payments made by illegal immigrants in the wake of an ongoing migrant flood at the U.S. southern border, a senior administration official told reporters Tuesday.

The plans to target remittance payments come amid a broader shakeup at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and future executive actions designed to curb illegal immigration. The situation at the southern border has escalated in recent weeks, with thousands of migrants arriving daily to claim asylum.

Officials say the illegal arrivals are spurred by loopholes in U.S. immigration law that allow family units claiming asylum to arrive illegally and still be released into the interior of the country with a work permit.

The migrants are then given a court date at some point in the future to adjudicate the asylum claim, with the vast majority failing to ultimately get a favorable asylum ruling. These migrants rarely show up for deportation, with the senior administration official calling the practice “backdoor illegal immigration.”

The White House plan to go after remittance payments falls in line with a proposal from former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who is being considered to replace outgoing DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

Kobach told Breitbart News on Tuesday that this will be an effective way for President Donald Trump to compel the Mexican government to take more enforcement action against Central Americans trafficking through their country.

Kobach told Breitbart, “The threat I propose is one that actually helps us if we follow through on it. That is the threat of ending remittances from the majority of people in the United States from Mexico who are here illegally,” adding “they don’t want to risk losing that massive flow of foreign capital. In most years, it’s their second biggest source of foreign capital.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/09/whit ... dium=email

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