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https://www.facebook.com/OfficialLizWheeler/videos/450234625587193/UzpfSTY2MjUwNzE0MToxMDE1NjEyOTkxNjM2MjE0Mg/

I have no doubt this impressionable autistic child is sincere..

But, she is a child who has been brainwashed by adults with money and an agenda.


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Unread postPosted: September 26th, 2019, 7:25 pm 
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I won't bother to link you to verifiable information regarding OANN, its owner and funding, its editorial slant or its fondness for wingnut conspiracy theories. Similarly, there is no need to document the bonkers bona fides of the hysterical Kool-Aid drinking trollop Liz Wheeler.

Suffice it to say that I reject the hysterical libelous clip and the OP out of hand.

My only question is, who exactly is the "YOU" that Wheeler is screaming about whilst pretending that they are actually watching OANN or giving a rat's ass what she is saying?

Is she talking to Thunberg's parents? to the Swedish educational system which by any measure is superior to any in North America?

I'm sure Herman is posting this because he likes overcooked blondes whom he imagines might sit on his lap and drink barrel wash with him. But what is the lure of this lurid false nonsense for Fash?

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Unread postPosted: September 26th, 2019, 7:59 pm 
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There’s a reason that we don’t look to teenagers for guidance on fraught issues of public policy. Kids have nothing interesting to say to us. They just repeat back what they’ve been told by adults, with less nuance and maturity.

Much of the climate advocacy of young people boils down to the plaint that all parents know well: “I want it, and I want it now.” As one headline on a National Geographic story put it, “Kids’ world climate strikes demand that warming stop, fast.”

The youthful climate activists claim they’ve been sold out by their elders. Greta Thunberg put it with her usual accusatory starkness at the U.N.: “You are failing us, but young people are starting to understand your betrayal.”

This is laughable. By no global measure of social and economic well-being have we failed kids. According to HumanProgress.org, the global poverty rate fell from 28 percent in 1999 to 11 percent in 2013. Life expectancy increased from 63.2 years to 71.9 years from 1981 to 2015. The completion rate for primary school increased from 80 percent in 1981 to 90 percent in 2015. The same benign trends hold for hunger, child labor, literacy, and so on.

If climate change proves a significant challenge, today’s youth will have more resources and technology to grapple with it than any other generation in the history of mankind.

Of course, the adults they listen to don’t tell them any of this. Instead, they feed the kids a diet of apocalyptic warnings that children repeat back as if they were urgent insights. One speaker at the youth climate rally in Washington, D.C., last week said that we have just 18 months — yes, only until the beginning of 2021 — to forestall irreversible environmental harms.

According to National Geographic, “more than a few teens who began as fervent activists have dropped out, citing depression, anxiety, and other fears that the world’s leaders will not act in time to prevent their lives — and the lives of their children — from being irretrievably altered by climate change.”

This is nuts, and it’s the adult enablers who are ultimately responsible. As for the kids, they’ll be all right. One day, they will grow up, even in a warming world.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/ ... d-nations/

Everything will be alright Greta.

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Anyone want to bet she will not be mentally healthy by age 20? She exhibits characteristics that do not sit well with me. Of course, I'd love to be proven wrong.

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Unread postPosted: September 26th, 2019, 8:33 pm 
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I won't bother to link you to verifiable information regarding OANN, its owner and funding, its editorial slant or its fondness for wingnut conspiracy theories. Similarly, there is no need to document the bonkers bona fides of the hysterical Kool-Aid drinking trollop Liz Wheeler.

Suffice it to say that I reject the hysterical libelous clip and the OP out of hand.

My only question is, who exactly is the "YOU" that Wheeler is screaming about whilst pretending that they are actually watching OANN or giving a rat's ass what she is saying?

Is she talking to Thunberg's parents? to the Swedish educational system which by any measure is superior to any in North America?

I'm sure Herman is posting this because he likes overcooked blondes whom he imagines might sit on his lap and drink barrel wash with him. But what is the lure of this lurid false nonsense for Fash?

Liz Wheeler is hardly the first person to state the obvious, that she is an ignorant, privileged brainwashed kid being used as a pawn by billionaire socialists. That is irrefutable. If her theatrics are to be believed, and I believe she believes her doomsday mind-warping, who is paying for her to travel the world.

Why are her parents enabling their daughter's child abuse. Praying on an innocent kid with Asperger's Syndrome. Leftist money has no parameters.

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@realAzhyaAryola wrote:
Anyone want to bet she will not be mentally healthy by age 20? She exhibits characteristics that do not sit well with me. Of course, I'd love to be proven wrong.

You won't be proven wrong. When she no longer serves their purposes, her rich progtard handlers will cut off her allowance. She will be as skeptic some day, but she could also be suicidal.

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I'm sure Herman is posting this because he likes overcooked blondes whom he imagines might sit on his lap and drink barrel wash with him.

Frickin rights I do.

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But what is the lure of this lurid false nonsense for Fash?

She is a mom. So is Azhya. They are probably sickened that an autistic kid is being used as a pawn by rich globalists to further their agenda.The heartless bastards will discard her too when she is no longer useful to them.

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Unread postPosted: September 26th, 2019, 10:12 pm 
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Most of Greta's countrymen are not as brainwashed as she is. Thirty-six percent of Swedes think climate change is man-caused. Forty-eight percent think the climate is changing, and humans are only partly responsible. Eight percent say the climate is changing and it’s not people doing it. Two percent say it’s not changing at all.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/09/20 ... investors/

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Unread postPosted: September 26th, 2019, 10:30 pm 
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Peaches wrote:
I won't bother to link you to verifiable information regarding OANN, its owner and funding, its editorial slant or its fondness for wingnut conspiracy theories. Similarly, there is no need to document the bonkers bona fides of the hysterical Kool-Aid drinking trollop Liz Wheeler.

Suffice it to say that I reject the hysterical libelous clip and the OP out of hand.

My only question is, who exactly is the "YOU" that Wheeler is screaming about whilst pretending that they are actually watching OANN or giving a rat's ass what she is saying?

Is she talking to Thunberg's parents? to the Swedish educational system which by any measure is superior to any in North America?

I'm sure Herman is posting this because he likes overcooked blondes whom he imagines might sit on his lap and drink barrel wash with him. But what is the lure of this lurid false nonsense for Fash?


So, are we to believe the contrary; that a 16 year old girl has the intellect, experience, education and authority to act as a "global leader"?

That those who parade this snotling before cameras and who give her the microphone are NOT manipulating and controlling this poor wretch?

What the left is doing to this child is a disgrace. An aberration that should lead to prosecutions for abusing a child.

Do you disagree? Do you condone the use of a child as a poster icon for leftist ideology?

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Bricktop wrote:
Peaches wrote:
I won't bother to link you to verifiable information regarding OANN, its owner and funding, its editorial slant or its fondness for wingnut conspiracy theories. Similarly, there is no need to document the bonkers bona fides of the hysterical Kool-Aid drinking trollop Liz Wheeler.

Suffice it to say that I reject the hysterical libelous clip and the OP out of hand.

My only question is, who exactly is the "YOU" that Wheeler is screaming about whilst pretending that they are actually watching OANN or giving a rat's ass what she is saying?

Is she talking to Thunberg's parents? to the Swedish educational system which by any measure is superior to any in North America?

I'm sure Herman is posting this because he likes overcooked blondes whom he imagines might sit on his lap and drink barrel wash with him. But what is the lure of this lurid false nonsense for Fash?


So, are we to believe the contrary; that a 16 year old girl has the intellect, experience, education and authority to act as a "global leader"?

That those who parade this snotling before cameras and who give her the microphone are NOT manipulating and controlling this poor wretch?

What the left is doing to this child is a disgrace. An aberration that should lead to prosecutions for abusing a child.

Do you disagree? Do you condone the use of a child as a poster icon for leftist ideology?

He says Sweden's educational system is better than Canada or the USA and therefore she hasn't had climate alarmism drilled into her mind to the point that it has become a serious mental health issue..

Peaches believes the people financing her global campaign are not manipulating her.

Peaches says pointing out that this autistic girl is a victim of child abuse is libel.


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Unread postPosted: September 27th, 2019, 10:38 am 
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Destroying the mental health of impressionable adolescents is just a little collateral damage for people like AOC and Naomi Klein. As long as they get top down socialism. A little child abuse be damned.

By Anthony Furey of Sun News Media

Parents need to keep a close eye on what the climate strike tells their kids

There’s a famous flashback scene in the old Woody Allen movie Annie Hall where the main character’s mother takes her son to the doctor. She tells the doctor her son is depressed and won’t do anything. The doctor asks why and the sullen boy explains that he read that the universe is continually expanding: “Someday it will break apart, and that will be the end of everything.”

I used to find that scene funny. Now I’m not so sure anymore because it hits too close to home.

On Friday, many thousands of Canadian schoolchildren will be exposed to similar rhetoric that may frighten them and cause them undue stress as they attend the various Global Climate Strike rallies taking part across the country.

University classes are being cancelled and school boards are sending permission slips home asking parents to allow their kids to attend one of these rallies.

Parents need to pay close attention to what will be happening in schools on Friday. While most parents are likely comfortable with their children being taught the basics of environmentalism — don’t litter, don’t pollute — these rallies go way beyond that. Climate activism heavily overlaps with political and ideological rhetoric and this Friday’s planned events will be no exception.

“Our planet is on fire. We have to act now,” reads a message on popular Instagram account Youth strike 4 climate, a group that’s promoting the rallies. These sorts of doomsday messages will be out in full force and have already been proven to scare and damage impressionable young minds.

Climate anxiety. Eco grief. Solastalgia. Look them up. These terms are now frequently used by mental health experts to discuss the rising concerns that have come out of all of this alarmist rhetoric.

The American Psychological Association has even released a 70-page guidebook to help professionals navigate mental health issues related to fretting over climate change.

This can rise to extreme cases. While many people have celebrated the passion behind teenager Greta Thunberg’s activism, it has not come without its personal costs. “Thunberg began suffering from depression as a child, by her own admission, in part because she learned about climate change at age eight,” explains one newspaper. “She was later diagnosed with autism and obsessive compulsive disorder and gradually became despondent as she obsessed over her fear of climate change. She developed mutism and an eating disorder so severe that she once went two months without food, and she stopped going to school.”

Whatever your thoughts on climate change, do you want anything resembling this happening to your child? Do you want your child placed in therapy because of what they’ve heard at a school field trip? It should be possible to discuss environmental and climate issues without traumatizing children.

On Wednesday a man from Manchester, England, posted on social media that a 14-year old boy from the school his wife works at committed suicide in part because of climate change anxiety. There are no news reports on this and there very well may be another side to the story, but just the possibility of this being true should cause a chill to run through the spine of every parent. Is this a world we want to live in?

There is also an undeniable political element to the climate strike. U.S. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Canadian celebrity activist Naomi Klein have made it clear they want to use the climate change issue to herald a socialist revolution. And they aren’t the fringe voices at these gatherings. They’re the ringleaders.

Climate Justice Toronto posted on social media about all of the signs they’re building to wave during the supposedly child-friendly rally. One of them, in all capitals, reads F--- CAPITALISM.

Parents, please be wary about what your kids are seeing and hearing. If they’re exposed to this strike, talk to them before and after to monitor what they’ve been told. Ideally, keep them away from it entirely.

Woody Allen’s famous neurotic antics is funny to see on film. But it’s not something you want to see in your kids.

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Greta isn't being conned.

You cannot wreck 85% of the world's forests and think that isn't going to affect climate change, global warming or any bloody name you want to call it.

Our children's future is being robbed from them.

Continuous "economic growth" is utter bullshit and should be curbed immediately.

I do not want to live on a planet with nothing but dead farms sporting one tree in the middle of it with hundreds of sheep trying to get a bit of shade... fuck farmers,

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Greta isn't being conned.

You cannot wreck 85% of the world's forests and think that isn't going to affect climate change, global warming or any bloody name you want to call it.

Our children's future is being robbed from them.

Continuous "economic growth" is utter bullshit and should be curbed immediately.

I do not want to live on a planet with nothing but dead farms sporting one tree in the middle of it with hundreds of sheep trying to get a bit of shade... fuck farmers,

(Sorry Herman, I don't mean you)

I just proved she is being conned. She gave a totally erroneous statement about climate disasters that she was told and believed and then repeated it inside the UN. Did anyone correct this little pawn? Not a chance.

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He says Sweden's educational system is better than Canada or the USA and therefore she hasn't had climate alarmism drilled into her mind to the point that it has become a serious mental health issue..

Peaches believes the people financing her global campaign are not manipulating her.

Peaches says pointing out that this autistic girl is a victim of child abuse is libel.


Kindly quote my post and underline the language where I said the things you claim I said. All three of them are highlighted.

With respect to the third thing, allow me to help you out. I said the blonde's screed was libelous, but I didn't say why. Nor did I identify in my post the reason for my claim. However, before you start up with me on the topic of libel, please be advised that I have a minor concentration in journalism that dates back to an era where libel in print media was still taken seriously.

This is purported to be a section of your forum dedicated to reasoned argument and discussion, not for name calling and putting words into the mouth of another poster.

I've previously identified a few posters here who operate in those ways, and called them out for it only to see that no one here seems really to be interested in civility or reasoned conversation. Please don't make me add you, the forum owner, to that list of people I no longer converse with.

I'll check back.

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I just proved she is being conned. She gave a totally erroneous statement about climate disasters that she was told and believed and then repeated it inside the UN. Did anyone correct this little pawn? Not a chance.



If you expect others to take your GRAPH as "proof" of something, you'd do well to enlarge it so they can see what the SOURCE is, and maybe even say something about that source to help them understand why you find it credible. I think you already know this, because in academia (even in economics departments) it's a common practice.

While you're at it, you might need to amplify your SUPPOSITION as to why she preached inaccurate data to the UN, since you do not know the identities of the people you blame.

I love watching CONs do hatchet jobs on children who don't behave the way they are "supposed to."

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If you expect others to take your GRAPH as "proof" of something, you'd do well to enlarge it so they can see what the SOURCE is

I wish you would hold wealthy alarmists who prey on children to the same standard. But, since you asked, the graph comes from the international disaster database.

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While you're at it, you might need to amplify your SUPPOSITION as to why she preached inaccurate data to the UN, since you do not know the identities of the people you blame.

Many of the same people that our Green Party leader quotes when she makes patently false doom and gloom statements. But, I have already posted some of the names of wealthy financiers of her and her entourage's carbon intensive globe trotting.
the-blue-cashew-f2/worldwide-climate-protests-t11131-40.html

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I've previously identified a few posters here who operate in those ways, and called them out for it only to see that no one here seems really to be interested in civility or reasoned conversation. Please don't make me add you, the forum owner, to that list of people I no longer converse with.

I consider myself civil and reasoned. I consider the owner of this board the epitome of civility and pragmatism. But, that is not to say we are going to accept false hysteria. I am actually a believer in anthropogenic global warming.

One of the more knowledgeable and unbiased voices on the subject is Bjorn Lomborg. He wrote this recently which was published in the Australian.

The Paris treaty is likely to cost between $US1 trillion and $2 trillion ($1.5 trillion and $2.9 trillion) a year, making it the costliest treaty in history. Not surprisingly, research shows that it will increase poverty. Its effects are not evenly felt; increasing electricity prices hurts the poor the most.

At great cost, the Paris Agreement will reduce emissions by just 1 per cent of what politicians have promised. The UN body organising the Paris Agreement finds that if all its promises were fulfilled (which they are not on track to achieve), it would cut about 60 billion tonnes of CO2 equivalents, whereas about 6000 billion tonnes are needed to get to the promised 2C target.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquir ... d497b03359

Like Lomborg, I reject the hyperbole and yes, outright doom and gloom lies. I reject the unnecessary and useless proposals that alarmists propose that are paid for on the backs of middle class families in Western countries. We can not only stop more C02 emissions right now and make gasoline a renewable resource, we can take out C02 emissions that are in the atmosphere now. And all this without changing our entire infrastructure and way of life. But, the alarmists have shown no interest in affordable solutions. And they have convinced autistic little girls they won't work either.

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It just goes to show how powerful her message was and it hit nerves.

She's a bloody heroine.


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Some more inconvenient truths for poor little brainwashed Greta.

Personal GDP and life expectancy in the fossil fuel era:
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More food being grown:
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The earth greener than it's ever been in the satellite era:
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Why are past times that were warmer than today referred to as “climate optimums?” How did that morph into a “climate crisis?”
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