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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 11:40 am 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/Od4dL9Lip2/tunnel_29

It is large - but if interested, it is divided into reasonable length sections / stages, yet is presented continuously - Kudos to researchers, programmers of this presentation and especially to all actual brave participants

Story is put together in a great easy to keep your place format - including separate section linked tabs at top

In 1961, Joachim Rudolph escaped from one of the world’s most brutal dictatorships. A few months later, he began tunnelling his way back in. Why?

The Tunnel
It all began with a knock at the door. Joachim, a 22-year-old engineering student, was in his room at university in West Berlin. He had been studying there for a few months, spending his free time taking photographs, or going to jazz nights.

At his door were two Italian students he knew in passing who had come to ask for his help. They needed to get some friends out of East Berlin and they wanted to do this by digging a tunnel.

This was October 1961, just two months after the Berlin Wall had gone up. It was built by the East German government to stop the flood of people leaving the communist dictatorship for a better life in the West. But what was so extraordinary about it was the speed with which it had been built.

Tens of thousands of East German soldiers had gone into the streets of East Berlin in the dead of night, stringing barbed wire from posts and making concrete barricades. By the next morning, this barrier cut through the whole city, snaking through parks, playgrounds, cemeteries and squares.

Although the wall had been hastily put together (and wasn’t as tall or as heavily guarded as it would later become) it changed the city overnight.

When people woke up on 13 August 1961, they suddenly found themselves on one side of it. Wives were cut off from their husbands, brothers from their sisters. There were even stories of newborn babies in the West now separated from their mothers.

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SECOND TUNNEL
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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 11:43 am 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/Od4dL9Lip2/tunnel_29#group-The-Death-Strip-IryVAEVqdN

It is large - but if interested, it is divided into reasonable length sections / stages, yet is presented continuously - Kudos to researchers, programmers of this presentation and to all actual brave participants

Story is put together in a great easy to keep your place format

In 1961, Joachim Rudolph escaped from one of the world’s most brutal dictatorships. A few months later, he began tunnelling his way back in. Why?

The Tunnel
It all began with a knock at the door. Joachim, a 22-year-old engineering student, was in his room at university in West Berlin. He had been studying there for a few months, spending his free time taking photographs, or going to jazz nights.

At his door were two Italian students he knew in passing who had come to ask for his help. They needed to get some friends out of East Berlin and they wanted to do this by digging a tunnel.

This was October 1961, just two months after the Berlin Wall had gone up. It was built by the East German government to stop the flood of people leaving the communist dictatorship for a better life in the West. But what was so extraordinary about it was the speed with which it had been built.

Tens of thousands of East German soldiers had gone into the streets of East Berlin in the dead of night, stringing barbed wire from posts and making concrete barricades. By the next morning, this barrier cut through the whole city, snaking through parks, playgrounds, cemeteries and squares.

Although the wall had been hastily put together (and wasn’t as tall or as heavily guarded as it would later become) it changed the city overnight.

When people woke up on 13 August 1961, they suddenly found themselves on one side of it. Wives were cut off from their husbands, brothers from their sisters. There were even stories of newborn babies in the West now separated from their mothers.

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He tunnelled back in?


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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 11:47 am 
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Yes- I have not got that far so do not get that part of it - I would assume to help others get to West Berlin

it is a long story = extremely well put together

First Tunnel When Flooding Almost Stopped Them
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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 11:58 am 
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Yes- I have not got that far so do not get that part of it - I would assume to help others get to West Berlin

it is a long story = extremely well put together

I have no doubt it's a fascinating story.


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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 12:51 pm 
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cc wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/Od4dL9Lip2/tunnel_29

It is large - but if interested, it is divided into reasonable length sections / stages, yet is presented continuously - Kudos to researchers, programmers of this presentation and especially to all actual brave participants

Story is put together in a great easy to keep your place format - including separate section links at top

In 1961, Joachim Rudolph escaped from one of the world’s most brutal dictatorships. A few months later, he began tunnelling his way back in. Why?

The Tunnel
It all began with a knock at the door. Joachim, a 22-year-old engineering student, was in his room at university in West Berlin. He had been studying there for a few months, spending his free time taking photographs, or going to jazz nights.

At his door were two Italian students he knew in passing who had come to ask for his help. They needed to get some friends out of East Berlin and they wanted to do this by digging a tunnel.

This was October 1961, just two months after the Berlin Wall had gone up. It was built by the East German government to stop the flood of people leaving the communist dictatorship for a better life in the West. But what was so extraordinary about it was the speed with which it had been built.

Tens of thousands of East German soldiers had gone into the streets of East Berlin in the dead of night, stringing barbed wire from posts and making concrete barricades. By the next morning, this barrier cut through the whole city, snaking through parks, playgrounds, cemeteries and squares.

Although the wall had been hastily put together (and wasn’t as tall or as heavily guarded as it would later become) it changed the city overnight.

When people woke up on 13 August 1961, they suddenly found themselves on one side of it. Wives were cut off from their husbands, brothers from their sisters. There were even stories of newborn babies in the West now separated from their mothers.

...........................................................................
SECOND TUNNEL
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Very interesting cc.


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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 2:03 pm 
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cc wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/Od4dL9Lip2/tunnel_29

It is large - but if interested, it is divided into reasonable length sections / stages, yet is presented continuously - Kudos to researchers, programmers of this presentation and especially to all actual brave participants

Story is put together in a great easy to keep your place format - including separate section links at top

In 1961, Joachim Rudolph escaped from one of the world’s most brutal dictatorships. A few months later, he began tunnelling his way back in. Why?

The Tunnel
It all began with a knock at the door. Joachim, a 22-year-old engineering student, was in his room at university in West Berlin. He had been studying there for a few months, spending his free time taking photographs, or going to jazz nights.

At his door were two Italian students he knew in passing who had come to ask for his help. They needed to get some friends out of East Berlin and they wanted to do this by digging a tunnel.

This was October 1961, just two months after the Berlin Wall had gone up. It was built by the East German government to stop the flood of people leaving the communist dictatorship for a better life in the West. But what was so extraordinary about it was the speed with which it had been built.

Tens of thousands of East German soldiers had gone into the streets of East Berlin in the dead of night, stringing barbed wire from posts and making concrete barricades. By the next morning, this barrier cut through the whole city, snaking through parks, playgrounds, cemeteries and squares.

Although the wall had been hastily put together (and wasn’t as tall or as heavily guarded as it would later become) it changed the city overnight.

When people woke up on 13 August 1961, they suddenly found themselves on one side of it. Wives were cut off from their husbands, brothers from their sisters. There were even stories of newborn babies in the West now separated from their mothers.

...........................................................................
SECOND TUNNEL
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Make a good movie.

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 4:20 pm 
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I've read about Joachim Rudolph.

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 5:24 pm 
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Herman wrote:
Make a good movie.

It did

The Tunnel (1962)
1h 30min | Documentary | TV Movie 10 December 1962

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2221494/?r ... flmg_slf_1

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 5:33 pm 
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cc wrote:
Herman wrote:
Make a good movie.

It did

The Tunnel (1962)
1h 30min | Documentary | TV Movie 10 December 1962

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2221494/?r ... flmg_slf_1

:thumbup:

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 6:23 pm 
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Basically same people - Tunnel 57, 3 years later was a tunnel under the Berlin Wall that on the third and fourth October 1964 was the location of a mass escape by 57 East Berlin citizens.

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 6:46 pm 
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cc wrote:
Basically same people - Tunnel 57, 3 years later was a tunnel under the Berlin Wall that on the third and fourth October 1964 was the location of a mass escape by 57 East Berlin citizens.

Weren't East German border guards ordered to shoot to kill?


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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 6:56 pm 
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Yes. Shoot on sight. But they can only shoot what they know is there

There was an incident in this where one tunneler shot a Stasi in shoulder when they were found out and another Stasi lost it and killed his comrade (friendly fire) ... they got away - must have gone like hell through tunnel? I forget the point in time but it must have been the end of Tunnel 57 as Staci had found the entrance on the East side .. can't find it now
The soldier was included on the ceremonial plaque for Tunnel 57 in West Berlin

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 7:06 pm 
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cc wrote:
Yes. Shoot on sight. But they can only shoot what they know is there

There was an incident in this where one tunneler shot a Stasi in shoulder when they were found out and another Stasi lost it and killed him (friendly fire) ... they got away - must have gone like hell through tunnel? I forget the point in time but it must have been the end of Tunnel 75 .. can't find it now
The soldier was included on the ceremonial plaque for Tunnel 57 in West Berlin

It must have been a horrible place to live if people would risk certain death if detected.....much like North Korea.


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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 7:08 pm 
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Control was total ,, Stasi was vicious and efficient ... spying on everyone and enforcement also - East Berliners lived a 1984

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Control was total ,, Stasi was vicious and efficient ... spying on everyone and enforcement also - East Berliners lived a 1984

I thought it was 1989.


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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 7:28 pm 
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Yes, liberation was

I'm referring to the book / movie 1984 where govt control was total .. East Berliners lived it

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Unread postPosted: November 3rd, 2019, 7:45 pm 
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Great part of history. My paternal grandparents are from Germany.

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cc wrote:
Yes, liberation was

I'm referring to the book / movie 1984 where govt control was total .. East Berliners lived it

Ah, I see cc.


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Fashionista wrote:
cc wrote:
Yes, liberation was

I'm referring to the book / movie 1984 where govt control was total .. East Berliners lived it

Ah, I see cc.


The book we were suppose to of read this year Fash :laugh:

I did finally see the movie though.

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Blazor wrote:
Fashionista wrote:
cc wrote:
Yes, liberation was

I'm referring to the book / movie 1984 where govt control was total .. East Berliners lived it

Ah, I see cc.


The book we were suppose to of read this year Fash :laugh:

I did finally see the movie though.

Maybe she did.

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