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Unread postPosted: November 17th, 2019, 8:49 pm 
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Climate refugees...

Are they really a thing?

Of course not. That's just another bs reason to rush more people into the country. If the Green party actually cared about climate change, they would make ending immigration part of their platform.

David Suzuki said Canada was full.


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Unread postPosted: November 17th, 2019, 9:29 pm 
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iron horse jockey wrote:
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Climate refugees...

Are they really a thing?

Of course not. That's just another bs reason to rush more people into the country. If the Green party actually cared about climate change, they would make ending immigration part of their platform.

The more people we have, the more C02 absorbing mature forests have to be cleared.

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Unread postPosted: November 17th, 2019, 10:06 pm 
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Economic growth and population growth doesnt go together with climate cleaning..

And the only reason why they want more population is to man the different factory positions.


We can downsize... Its just the greedy, small dicked investor who doesnt like it..


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Unread postPosted: November 18th, 2019, 4:36 am 
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Economic growth and population growth doesnt go together with climate cleaning..

And the only reason why they want more population is to man the different factory positions.


We can downsize... Its just the greedy, small dicked investor who doesnt like it..

Aren't most factories becoming more automated and less labour intensive.


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Unread postPosted: November 28th, 2019, 8:37 am 
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Climate alarmism fake news abounds in Canada.

By Lorrie Goldstein of Sun News Media

Political vows on climate change are fake news

It’s astounding how the media, concerned as we are about “fake news”, continue to report Canadian and global targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change as if they’re real.

They aren’t. They’re fake news.

They’re meaningless words on a page, whether they come from the United Nations, or Canada’s environment ministry, that will never be achieved.

How do we know? Because the best indicator of future performance is past practice.

In the three decades Canadian Liberal and Conservative governments have been setting emission reduction targets to fight climate change, not one has come close to achieving them.

We know Prime Minister Justin Trudeau doesn’t have Canada on a path to “exceed” his pledge to reduce our emissions to 30% below 2005 levels by 2030, as he promised during the election.

How? Because he’s so far behind meeting his pledge to reduce our emissions to 17% below 2005 levels by 2020, he’d have to shut down the equivalent of 61% of Canada’s entire transportation sector within 13 months to do it it.

We know because in the two decades since then prime minister Jean Chretien signed the UN’S Kyoto accord, the forerunner of the 2015 Paris accord, Canada’s emissions have gone up, not down, by 4.2%.

We know because since 2005, while our emissions have dropped by a mere 2%, in the last year for which Canadian figures are available (2017), they went up 1.1%.

Canada’s Ecofiscal Commission, which just released a report saying Trudeau would have to raise his current carbon price of $20 per tonne of emissions to $210 per tonne by 2030 to meet the 2030 reduction target he agreed to under the 2015 Paris climate accord, knows it.

It also knows the authors of the Paris accord now say the commitments almost every nation on Earth made under it in 2015, are inadequate to avert what they describe as catastrophic warming.

We know that almost every target every nation has set to reduce its emissions under the Paris accord, including Canada’s, is fake news.

How? Because the just-released 2019 UN emissions report shows global emissions rose by an average of 1.5% annually for the past decade, and that to put them on track to meet the UN’S 2030 target, they will have to decrease by an average of 7.6% annually for the next decade.

That’s not going to happen because of the global economic damage it would cause.

What it comes to climate change, what we have collectively opted for, as indicated by the results of the recent federal election, is the phenomenon described by George Monbiot, one of the world’s most knowledgeable climate change journalists, in his 2006 book, Heat: How To Stop The Planet From Burning.

“Our response will be to demand that the government acts, while hoping that it doesn’t,” Monbiot wrote. “We will wish our governments to pretend to act. We get the moral satisfaction of saying what we know to be right, without the discomfort of doing it.”

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Unread postPosted: November 28th, 2019, 4:00 pm 
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Climate alarmism fake news abounds in Canada.

By Lorrie Goldstein of Sun News Media

Political vows on climate change are fake news

It’s astounding how the media, concerned as we are about “fake news”, continue to report Canadian and global targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change as if they’re real.

They aren’t. They’re fake news.

They’re meaningless words on a page, whether they come from the United Nations, or Canada’s environment ministry, that will never be achieved.

How do we know? Because the best indicator of future performance is past practice.

In the three decades Canadian Liberal and Conservative governments have been setting emission reduction targets to fight climate change, not one has come close to achieving them.

We know Prime Minister Justin Trudeau doesn’t have Canada on a path to “exceed” his pledge to reduce our emissions to 30% below 2005 levels by 2030, as he promised during the election.

How? Because he’s so far behind meeting his pledge to reduce our emissions to 17% below 2005 levels by 2020, he’d have to shut down the equivalent of 61% of Canada’s entire transportation sector within 13 months to do it it.

We know because in the two decades since then prime minister Jean Chretien signed the UN’S Kyoto accord, the forerunner of the 2015 Paris accord, Canada’s emissions have gone up, not down, by 4.2%.

We know because since 2005, while our emissions have dropped by a mere 2%, in the last year for which Canadian figures are available (2017), they went up 1.1%.

Canada’s Ecofiscal Commission, which just released a report saying Trudeau would have to raise his current carbon price of $20 per tonne of emissions to $210 per tonne by 2030 to meet the 2030 reduction target he agreed to under the 2015 Paris climate accord, knows it.

It also knows the authors of the Paris accord now say the commitments almost every nation on Earth made under it in 2015, are inadequate to avert what they describe as catastrophic warming.

We know that almost every target every nation has set to reduce its emissions under the Paris accord, including Canada’s, is fake news.

How? Because the just-released 2019 UN emissions report shows global emissions rose by an average of 1.5% annually for the past decade, and that to put them on track to meet the UN’S 2030 target, they will have to decrease by an average of 7.6% annually for the next decade.

That’s not going to happen because of the global economic damage it would cause.

What it comes to climate change, what we have collectively opted for, as indicated by the results of the recent federal election, is the phenomenon described by George Monbiot, one of the world’s most knowledgeable climate change journalists, in his 2006 book, Heat: How To Stop The Planet From Burning.

“Our response will be to demand that the government acts, while hoping that it doesn’t,” Monbiot wrote. “We will wish our governments to pretend to act. We get the moral satisfaction of saying what we know to be right, without the discomfort of doing it.”

Political grandstanding.

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Unread postPosted: December 3rd, 2019, 4:25 pm 
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Unread postPosted: December 7th, 2019, 2:55 pm 
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I was watching Global news last night and they are claiming the price of food is going up because of climate change. No, the reason the price of food and other commodities is going up is because of the Liberal government’s carbon tax.

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Unread postPosted: December 8th, 2019, 5:13 pm 
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It's what progtards wanted.

https://business.financialpost.com/opin ... l1kWO2pQMo
As Vancouver drivers suffer gas-price pain, carbon-tax backers go suspiciously quiet

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Unread postPosted: December 8th, 2019, 5:20 pm 
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Since 2018, China has INCREASED emissions by 57%, India by 105%. Trudeau's favourite place from which to import oil? Up 59%. In the meantime, the United States with *no* carbon tax has decreased by 12%.

And Canada? With our punishing carbon tax? Up 1.6%. Again, despite all, Trump wins. Snigger at that Mr. Prime Minister.
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Unread postPosted: December 11th, 2019, 10:15 am 
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Ottawa is subsidizing e-cars, but has no idea of their impact on emissions or climate change.
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E-cars emitting carbon concerns

The federal government is unsure what impact its electric car rebate program is having on carbon emissions in canada.

In fact, Transport canada doesn’t even know if the program, which has doled out $165 million in rebates for people who have bought carbon-friendly electric vehicles, is having any impact on climate change, according to blacklock’s reporter.

assistant deputy transport minister anurahda marisetti, testifying monday at the senate national finance committee, said the rebates have increased the market share of electric vehicles, up 1% this year. marisetti said 31,000 rebate claims — up to $5,000 for cars priced at $45,000 or less — have been processed.

but ryan Pilgrim, the transport department’s chief financial officer, had no clue about how it has reduced carbon emissions.

“Unfortunately we don’t have the data with us on cost per ton,” Pilgrim said.

The uncertainty had conservative senators incredulous.

“so, you don’t really care whether the person drives 2,000 miles or 100,000 miles, you just give them the money? It doesn’t really matter?” senator david Tkachuk asked.

apparently not, even though the program has handed over $165 million in rebates.


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Unread postPosted: December 11th, 2019, 10:23 am 
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Ottawa is subsidizing e-cars, but has no idea of their impact on emissions or climate change.
:crazy:

E-cars emitting carbon concerns

The federal government is unsure what impact its electric car rebate program is having on carbon emissions in canada.

In fact, Transport canada doesn’t even know if the program, which has doled out $165 million in rebates for people who have bought carbon-friendly electric vehicles, is having any impact on climate change, according to blacklock’s reporter.

assistant deputy transport minister anurahda marisetti, testifying monday at the senate national finance committee, said the rebates have increased the market share of electric vehicles, up 1% this year. marisetti said 31,000 rebate claims — up to $5,000 for cars priced at $45,000 or less — have been processed.

but ryan Pilgrim, the transport department’s chief financial officer, had no clue about how it has reduced carbon emissions.

“Unfortunately we don’t have the data with us on cost per ton,” Pilgrim said.

The uncertainty had conservative senators incredulous.

“so, you don’t really care whether the person drives 2,000 miles or 100,000 miles, you just give them the money? It doesn’t really matter?” senator david Tkachuk asked.

apparently not, even though the program has handed over $165 million in rebates.

Good find Fash. :thumbup:

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Unread postPosted: December 11th, 2019, 1:12 pm 
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So True Dope has more money to give to his billionaire friends.

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So True Dope has more money to give to his billionaire friends.

We all know Trudeau's carbon tax is a revenue policy not an environmental one.


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Unread postPosted: December 11th, 2019, 4:55 pm 
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the transport department’s chief financial officer, had no clue about how it has reduced carbon emissions.

Only in Ottawa.

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Unread postPosted: December 11th, 2019, 5:15 pm 
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iron horse jockey wrote:
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the transport department’s chief financial officer, had no clue about how it has reduced carbon emissions.

Only in Ottawa.

This is part of Trudeau's climate change plan and he has no idea of how if it works or not.


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Unread postPosted: December 11th, 2019, 6:32 pm 
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Fashionista wrote:
Ottawa is subsidizing e-cars, but has no idea of their impact on emissions or climate change.
:crazy:

E-cars emitting carbon concerns

The federal government is unsure what impact its electric car rebate program is having on carbon emissions in canada.

In fact, Transport canada doesn’t even know if the program, which has doled out $165 million in rebates for people who have bought carbon-friendly electric vehicles, is having any impact on climate change, according to blacklock’s reporter.

assistant deputy transport minister anurahda marisetti, testifying monday at the senate national finance committee, said the rebates have increased the market share of electric vehicles, up 1% this year. marisetti said 31,000 rebate claims — up to $5,000 for cars priced at $45,000 or less — have been processed.

but ryan Pilgrim, the transport department’s chief financial officer, had no clue about how it has reduced carbon emissions.

“Unfortunately we don’t have the data with us on cost per ton,” Pilgrim said.

The uncertainty had conservative senators incredulous.

“so, you don’t really care whether the person drives 2,000 miles or 100,000 miles, you just give them the money? It doesn’t really matter?” senator david Tkachuk asked.

apparently not, even though the program has handed over $165 million in rebates.

Only government could get away with wasting $165 million.

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Unread postPosted: December 20th, 2019, 5:24 pm 
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If anyone can persuade Trudeau to end his disastrous spirit quest on renewable energy, it's Michael Shellenberger

https://edmontonjournal.com/business/lo ... llenberger
There is a brilliant way to build Canada with cleaner energy and higher levels of prosperity.

Sadly, it’s not the way that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau proposes, with his misguided shift to renewable energy from oil and gas.

Canada should build on its impressive strength in nuclear power and its potential for liquified natural gas exports, Shellenberger says.

This will actually help the country reach or exceed its climate commitments while building its wealth, as opposed to the Trudeau Liberal plan that will gut the economy and not come anywhere close to curbing greenhouse gas emissions.

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