Islamophobia is Very Much Alive in Canada

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Re: Islamophobia is Very Much Alive in Canada

#21 Unread post by Fashionista » June 9th, 2021, 10:18 pm

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Re: Islamophobia is Very Much Alive in Canada

#22 Unread post by Fashionista » June 10th, 2021, 6:29 am

The leader of the federal NDP couldn't be more wrong about this country..

A mentally ill young man who attacked randome people is not representative of Canadians, and Jagmeet Singh knows that.

Rupa Subramanya: No, Jagmeet, Canada is not a racist country. It's one of the most tolerant places on earth

Singh does the cause of fighting racism no favours by taking an extreme and exaggerated position that I, as an immigrant and person of colour, cannot agree with

As we mourn the family of four Muslim-Canadians who were killed in London, Ont., on June 6, leaving behind an orphaned child, and as it appears that the motive of the alleged killer was hatred toward Muslims, questions are being asked about the extent of racism in this country. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh went so far as to claim that “Canada is a place of racism” and that “Muslims are not safe in this country.” But is Canada really as racist as Singh claims?

There is certainly no question that hate crimes against many minority groups — including Jewish, Muslim and Asian Canadians — have been on the rise recently. Statistics Canada found that police-reported hate crimes increased in 2019 from the previous year, and reports of anti-Asian hate crimes have surged throughout the pandemic.

Any evidence that racism is on the rise is deplorable and every racist incident must be condemned in the strongest possible terms. However, Singh does the cause of fighting racism no favours by taking an extreme and exaggerated position that I, as an immigrant and person of colour, cannot agree with. Are there racists in Canada? Sure. Is Canada a racist country? Absolutely not.

By any metric, Canada is one of the most tolerant countries on the planet, and one which I am proud to call home. The 2020 World Values Survey places Canada amongst the most racially tolerant countries in the world, with less than five per cent of those surveyed saying that they would not want to have “people of another race” as their neighbours.

I first experienced racism, not in Canada, but in India and the Middle East, two places where I grew up. I was routinely denigrated by some Indians for having darker skin and by some Arabs for being Indian, dark skinned and not a Muslim. These prejudices can be vicious. The truth is that many people of colour who immigrate to Canada are “racialized” long before they arrive here.

That racism can, and does, exist between people of colour is a reality that’s entirely missing from the discourse on race in Canada, where it’s assumed to be perpetrated solely by old stock white Canadians, with people of colour as their victims. An honest conversation about racism in Canada must acknowledge these complexities, especially given demographic changes driven by large-scale immigration from non-Western countries.

There is ample anecdotal evidence that some immigrants bring the baggage of religion, caste, skin complexion and social class, to say nothing of traditional patriarchal norms that discriminate against women. Such cultural baggage can fuel intolerance operating on many different dimensions simultaneously.

For example, in the United States, there have been allegations of bias against “lower caste” employees in Silicon Valley tech companies that are dominated by “upper caste” Indo-Americans, some of which are being litigated in court. This has led some civil rights groups to petition the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, a federal government agency, to recognize caste-based discrimination as being equivalent to racial discrimination.

We’re not even having such conversations in Canada, perhaps because the culture of political correctness and the woke creed make it impossible to find any faults within any community other than that of old stock Canadians. Yet, any serious reckoning with the problem of racism and discrimination more broadly will have to contend with these other dimensions of bias and bigotry that are swept under the rug.

Sweeping assertions from the far left, such as Singh’s “Canada is a place of racism,” admit no such nuance, when the reality is that Canada has been, and continues to be, a welcoming home for everyone, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexuality or any other identity marker.

Statements such as Singh’s fail to set the stage for a serious discussion about issues of race and identity in Canada, by positing an extreme narrative in which Canada is irredeemably racist and beyond redemption. Nothing could be further from the truth.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rupa-s ... s-on-earth

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Re: Islamophobia is Very Much Alive in Canada

#23 Unread post by Shen Li » June 10th, 2021, 9:43 am

Jagmeet Singh's campaign motto: Vote for me you racist pieces of human excrement.
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Re: Islamophobia is Very Much Alive in Canada

#24 Unread post by Herman » June 10th, 2021, 12:55 pm

Fashionista wrote: June 10th, 2021, 6:29 am The leader of the federal NDP couldn't be more wrong about this country..

A mentally ill young man who attacked randome people is not representative of Canadians, and Jagmeet Singh knows that.

Rupa Subramanya: No, Jagmeet, Canada is not a racist country. It's one of the most tolerant places on earth

Singh does the cause of fighting racism no favours by taking an extreme and exaggerated position that I, as an immigrant and person of colour, cannot agree with

As we mourn the family of four Muslim-Canadians who were killed in London, Ont., on June 6, leaving behind an orphaned child, and as it appears that the motive of the alleged killer was hatred toward Muslims, questions are being asked about the extent of racism in this country. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh went so far as to claim that “Canada is a place of racism” and that “Muslims are not safe in this country.” But is Canada really as racist as Singh claims?

There is certainly no question that hate crimes against many minority groups — including Jewish, Muslim and Asian Canadians — have been on the rise recently. Statistics Canada found that police-reported hate crimes increased in 2019 from the previous year, and reports of anti-Asian hate crimes have surged throughout the pandemic.

Any evidence that racism is on the rise is deplorable and every racist incident must be condemned in the strongest possible terms. However, Singh does the cause of fighting racism no favours by taking an extreme and exaggerated position that I, as an immigrant and person of colour, cannot agree with. Are there racists in Canada? Sure. Is Canada a racist country? Absolutely not.

By any metric, Canada is one of the most tolerant countries on the planet, and one which I am proud to call home. The 2020 World Values Survey places Canada amongst the most racially tolerant countries in the world, with less than five per cent of those surveyed saying that they would not want to have “people of another race” as their neighbours.

I first experienced racism, not in Canada, but in India and the Middle East, two places where I grew up. I was routinely denigrated by some Indians for having darker skin and by some Arabs for being Indian, dark skinned and not a Muslim. These prejudices can be vicious. The truth is that many people of colour who immigrate to Canada are “racialized” long before they arrive here.

That racism can, and does, exist between people of colour is a reality that’s entirely missing from the discourse on race in Canada, where it’s assumed to be perpetrated solely by old stock white Canadians, with people of colour as their victims. An honest conversation about racism in Canada must acknowledge these complexities, especially given demographic changes driven by large-scale immigration from non-Western countries.

There is ample anecdotal evidence that some immigrants bring the baggage of religion, caste, skin complexion and social class, to say nothing of traditional patriarchal norms that discriminate against women. Such cultural baggage can fuel intolerance operating on many different dimensions simultaneously.

For example, in the United States, there have been allegations of bias against “lower caste” employees in Silicon Valley tech companies that are dominated by “upper caste” Indo-Americans, some of which are being litigated in court. This has led some civil rights groups to petition the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, a federal government agency, to recognize caste-based discrimination as being equivalent to racial discrimination.

We’re not even having such conversations in Canada, perhaps because the culture of political correctness and the woke creed make it impossible to find any faults within any community other than that of old stock Canadians. Yet, any serious reckoning with the problem of racism and discrimination more broadly will have to contend with these other dimensions of bias and bigotry that are swept under the rug.

Sweeping assertions from the far left, such as Singh’s “Canada is a place of racism,” admit no such nuance, when the reality is that Canada has been, and continues to be, a welcoming home for everyone, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexuality or any other identity marker.

Statements such as Singh’s fail to set the stage for a serious discussion about issues of race and identity in Canada, by positing an extreme narrative in which Canada is irredeemably racist and beyond redemption. Nothing could be further from the truth.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rupa-s ... s-on-earth
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Re: Islamophobia is Very Much Alive in Canada

#25 Unread post by Thiel » June 10th, 2021, 7:14 pm

@realAzhyaAryola wrote: June 8th, 2021, 5:11 pm What a terrible tragedy. Now, one boy is alone because he and his family were ran over by a deranged islamophobe and he is the lone survivor.
I don't believe Islamophobia or racism is much of a problem in Canada.
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#26 Unread post by Fashionista » June 10th, 2021, 7:36 pm

Thiel wrote: June 10th, 2021, 7:14 pm
@realAzhyaAryola wrote: June 8th, 2021, 5:11 pm What a terrible tragedy. Now, one boy is alone because he and his family were ran over by a deranged islamophobe and he is the lone survivor.
I don't believe Islamophobia or racism is much of a problem in Canada.
Jagmeet SIngh doesn't either..

But, he feels dividing people by race is a political winner for him.

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#27 Unread post by Thiel » June 10th, 2021, 8:02 pm

Fashionista wrote: June 10th, 2021, 7:36 pm
Thiel wrote: June 10th, 2021, 7:14 pm
@realAzhyaAryola wrote: June 8th, 2021, 5:11 pm What a terrible tragedy. Now, one boy is alone because he and his family were ran over by a deranged islamophobe and he is the lone survivor.
I don't believe Islamophobia or racism is much of a problem in Canada.
Jagmeet SIngh doesn't either..

But, he feels dividing people by race is a political winner for him.
It might be.
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Re: Islamophobia is Very Much Alive in Canada

#28 Unread post by @realAzhyaAryola » June 10th, 2021, 8:51 pm

Fashionista wrote: June 9th, 2021, 11:26 am cc, up in Edmonton they've had several random attacks on women wearing Islamic garments.
Precisely, Fash. You just confirmed that this sick young man is not a singular problem and I agree with you. He is not alone. This will happen again too. You are intelligent, Fash, and I know you did not believe that I implied Canada is an islamophobic country but it is true that there is islamophobia in Canada coming from muslim-hating people in Canada. While the statement that Canada is tolerant may be true, let us not fool ourselves that there are no racists or islamophobes in Canada because they do exist in Canada. We of all people should know this. These types of people have made appearances in these forums for ages and we know they are Canadian.
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#29 Unread post by @realAzhyaAryola » June 10th, 2021, 8:54 pm

cc la Mata Hari wrote: June 9th, 2021, 3:37 pm
@realAzhyaAryola wrote: June 9th, 2021, 2:18 pm Image
Good. Real Progress.

That's considerably more mature than the OP in effect saying Canada is a bigoted country .. and using a hokey word created by 4 unindicted hard core islamist terror conspirators at CAIR so that you and others like you could use it as a handy-dandy cudgel to do so .. (sadly, the other 5 were indicted, sentenced and jailed years ago)
Says the resident islamophobe. Your ilk makes me sick. Just because you keep blathering about something it does not make it true.

Educate yourself please before it’s too late. Islamophobia is a word. Learn a lesson today: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Islamophobia

Whatever idiotic thing you say to me, I reject it. Your words are inconsequential to me because you’re full of bullshit all the damn time. I do not take your kind seriously. Just get away from me already. I also give zero fucks if you don’t like the headings of any of my threads, Cancel Culture Queen. Fuck off. Deal with it.
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#30 Unread post by @realAzhyaAryola » June 10th, 2021, 8:56 pm

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#31 Unread post by Fashionista » June 10th, 2021, 8:58 pm

@realAzhyaAryola wrote: June 10th, 2021, 8:56 pm Image
Jagmeet Singh knows he's not telling the truth.

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#32 Unread post by iron horse jockey » June 10th, 2021, 9:24 pm

Fashionista wrote: June 10th, 2021, 6:29 am The leader of the federal NDP couldn't be more wrong about this country..

A mentally ill young man who attacked randome people is not representative of Canadians, and Jagmeet Singh knows that.

Rupa Subramanya: No, Jagmeet, Canada is not a racist country. It's one of the most tolerant places on earth

Singh does the cause of fighting racism no favours by taking an extreme and exaggerated position that I, as an immigrant and person of colour, cannot agree with

As we mourn the family of four Muslim-Canadians who were killed in London, Ont., on June 6, leaving behind an orphaned child, and as it appears that the motive of the alleged killer was hatred toward Muslims, questions are being asked about the extent of racism in this country. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh went so far as to claim that “Canada is a place of racism” and that “Muslims are not safe in this country.” But is Canada really as racist as Singh claims?

There is certainly no question that hate crimes against many minority groups — including Jewish, Muslim and Asian Canadians — have been on the rise recently. Statistics Canada found that police-reported hate crimes increased in 2019 from the previous year, and reports of anti-Asian hate crimes have surged throughout the pandemic.

Any evidence that racism is on the rise is deplorable and every racist incident must be condemned in the strongest possible terms. However, Singh does the cause of fighting racism no favours by taking an extreme and exaggerated position that I, as an immigrant and person of colour, cannot agree with. Are there racists in Canada? Sure. Is Canada a racist country? Absolutely not.

By any metric, Canada is one of the most tolerant countries on the planet, and one which I am proud to call home. The 2020 World Values Survey places Canada amongst the most racially tolerant countries in the world, with less than five per cent of those surveyed saying that they would not want to have “people of another race” as their neighbours.

I first experienced racism, not in Canada, but in India and the Middle East, two places where I grew up. I was routinely denigrated by some Indians for having darker skin and by some Arabs for being Indian, dark skinned and not a Muslim. These prejudices can be vicious. The truth is that many people of colour who immigrate to Canada are “racialized” long before they arrive here.

That racism can, and does, exist between people of colour is a reality that’s entirely missing from the discourse on race in Canada, where it’s assumed to be perpetrated solely by old stock white Canadians, with people of colour as their victims. An honest conversation about racism in Canada must acknowledge these complexities, especially given demographic changes driven by large-scale immigration from non-Western countries.

There is ample anecdotal evidence that some immigrants bring the baggage of religion, caste, skin complexion and social class, to say nothing of traditional patriarchal norms that discriminate against women. Such cultural baggage can fuel intolerance operating on many different dimensions simultaneously.

For example, in the United States, there have been allegations of bias against “lower caste” employees in Silicon Valley tech companies that are dominated by “upper caste” Indo-Americans, some of which are being litigated in court. This has led some civil rights groups to petition the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, a federal government agency, to recognize caste-based discrimination as being equivalent to racial discrimination.

We’re not even having such conversations in Canada, perhaps because the culture of political correctness and the woke creed make it impossible to find any faults within any community other than that of old stock Canadians. Yet, any serious reckoning with the problem of racism and discrimination more broadly will have to contend with these other dimensions of bias and bigotry that are swept under the rug.

Sweeping assertions from the far left, such as Singh’s “Canada is a place of racism,” admit no such nuance, when the reality is that Canada has been, and continues to be, a welcoming home for everyone, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexuality or any other identity marker.

Statements such as Singh’s fail to set the stage for a serious discussion about issues of race and identity in Canada, by positing an extreme narrative in which Canada is irredeemably racist and beyond redemption. Nothing could be further from the truth.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rupa-s ... s-on-earth
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#33 Unread post by iron horse jockey » June 10th, 2021, 9:31 pm

@realAzhyaAryola wrote: June 10th, 2021, 8:54 pm Islamophobia is a word. Learn a lesson today: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Islamophobia
Another prog buzzword, that's all. Just like cultural appropriation, microaggression, white privilege, heteronormativity, and I identify as.
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#34 Unread post by cc la Irma » June 10th, 2021, 10:03 pm

iron horse jockey wrote: June 10th, 2021, 9:31 pm
@realAzhyaAryola wrote: June 10th, 2021, 8:54 pm Islamophobia is a word. Learn a lesson today: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Islamophobia
Another prog buzzword, that's all. Just like cultural appropriation, microaggression, white privilege, heteronormativity, and I identify as.
No different than any of them
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#35 Unread post by cc la Irma » June 11th, 2021, 6:57 am

Seems my mouse went a bit mad on click - If management would delete my screwups, it would be appreciated.

I'll try to do better as I really screwed this one up



The Politics of Grief

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How to turn grief into a political rally


Seems the NDP won this political battle hands down by using the in vogue easy/ sleazy method of blaming the country


Where were they all for the 15 hunted down and shot one by one on Danforth ?? .. Nowhere of course. ... a quick token message from 1 (one) from far away Ottawa ... followed by crickets
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#36 Unread post by seoulbro » June 11th, 2021, 9:23 am

cc la Mata Hari wrote: June 11th, 2021, 6:57 am Seems my mouse went a bit mad on click - If management would delete my screwups, it would be appreciated.

I'll try to do better as I really screwed this one up



The Politics of Grief

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How to turn grief into a political rally


Seems the NDP won this political battle hands down by using the in vogue easy/ sleazy method of blaming the country


Where were they all for the 15 shot on Danforth ?? .. a quick token message from 1 (one) and then crickets
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#37 Unread post by Fashionista » June 11th, 2021, 10:43 am

cc la Mata Hari wrote: June 11th, 2021, 6:57 am Seems my mouse went a bit mad on click - If management would delete my screwups, it would be appreciated.

I'll try to do better as I really screwed this one up



The Politics of Grief

Image

How to turn grief into a political rally


Seems the NDP won this political battle hands down by using the in vogue easy/ sleazy method of blaming the country


Where were they all for the 15 hunted down and shot on Danforth ?? .. a quick token message from 1 (one) from far away Ottawa ... followed by crickets

I think I got them all cc.
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#38 Unread post by cc la Irma » June 11th, 2021, 10:48 am

Thank you Fash
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#39 Unread post by Herman » June 11th, 2021, 3:19 pm

The more I read about this, the more I believe mental illness was the motive behind that kid mowing down a family in his vehicle.
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#40 Unread post by Fashionista » June 11th, 2021, 3:27 pm

Herman wrote: June 11th, 2021, 3:19 pm The more I read about this, the more I believe mental illness was the motive behind that kid mowing down a family in his vehicle.
Oh he was defintely a disturbed young man.

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