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Along with two other complexes in Detroit and Warren, Ohio. Nearly twenty six hundred good jobs with full benefits lost. This is devastating to Oshawa's economy.



Oshawa assembly plant



The Oshawa plant, where GM Canada has its headquarters, produces the Chevrolet Impala and the Cadillac XTS cars, the majority of which are shipped south of the border, along with the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickup trucks.



The complex is one of three GM manufacturing facilities in Ontario, along with St. Catharines and Ingersoll.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"Along with two other complexes in Detroit and Warren, Ohio. Nearly twenty six hundred good jobs with full benefits lost. This is devastating to Oshawa's economy.



Oshawa assembly plant



The Oshawa plant, where GM Canada has its headquarters, produces the Chevrolet Impala and the Cadillac XTS cars, the majority of which are shipped south of the border, along with the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickup trucks.



The complex is one of three GM manufacturing facilities in Ontario, along with St. Catharines and Ingersoll.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438

I feel terrible for the people of Oshawa Ontario..



We can empathize in Alberta, because of Rachel Notley and Justin Trudeau thousands of good jobs have left Alberta for the USA.....perhaps my husband's job too.

 :sad:

JOE

Quote from: "seoulbro"Along with two other complexes in Detroit and Warren, Ohio. Nearly twenty six hundred good jobs with full benefits lost. This is devastating to Oshawa's economy.



Oshawa assembly plant



The Oshawa plant, where GM Canada has its headquarters, produces the Chevrolet Impala and the Cadillac XTS cars, the majority of which are shipped south of the border, along with the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickup trucks.



The complex is one of three GM manufacturing facilities in Ontario, along with St. Catharines and Ingersoll.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438


Wha? After a change of government?!



What happened seoulbro?



I thought Ford would be Ontario's savior, eh.

Anonymous

Quote from: "JOE"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Along with two other complexes in Detroit and Warren, Ohio. Nearly twenty six hundred good jobs with full benefits lost. This is devastating to Oshawa's economy.



Oshawa assembly plant



The Oshawa plant, where GM Canada has its headquarters, produces the Chevrolet Impala and the Cadillac XTS cars, the majority of which are shipped south of the border, along with the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickup trucks.



The complex is one of three GM manufacturing facilities in Ontario, along with St. Catharines and Ingersoll.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438


Wha? After a change of government?!



What happened seoulbro?



I thought Ford would be Ontario's savior, eh.

He scrapped the carbon tax and made electricity more affordable, so Ford did his part..



In the end, robotics are taking over a lot of manufacturing.

 :sad:

JOE

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "JOE"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Along with two other complexes in Detroit and Warren, Ohio. Nearly twenty six hundred good jobs with full benefits lost. This is devastating to Oshawa's economy.



Oshawa assembly plant



The Oshawa plant, where GM Canada has its headquarters, produces the Chevrolet Impala and the Cadillac XTS cars, the majority of which are shipped south of the border, along with the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickup trucks.



The complex is one of three GM manufacturing facilities in Ontario, along with St. Catharines and Ingersoll.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438


Wha? After a change of government?!



What happened seoulbro?



I thought Ford would be Ontario's savior, eh.

He scrapped the carbon tax and made electricity more affordable, so Ford did his part..



In the end, robotics are taking over a lot of manufacturing.

 :sad:


Will there be any jobs left for our children?



I think I'll be fine, but I worry about tge next generation

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "JOE"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Along with two other complexes in Detroit and Warren, Ohio. Nearly twenty six hundred good jobs with full benefits lost. This is devastating to Oshawa's economy.



Oshawa assembly plant



The Oshawa plant, where GM Canada has its headquarters, produces the Chevrolet Impala and the Cadillac XTS cars, the majority of which are shipped south of the border, along with the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickup trucks.



The complex is one of three GM manufacturing facilities in Ontario, along with St. Catharines and Ingersoll.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438


Wha? After a change of government?!



What happened seoulbro?



I thought Ford would be Ontario's savior, eh.

He scrapped the carbon tax and made electricity more affordable, so Ford did his part..



In the end, robotics are taking over a lot of manufacturing.

 :sad:

Precisely. How many jobs have been saved because of Ford reversing the job killing  policies of the previous government.



Meanwhile Toyota is investing $1.4 billion in Ontario plants.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/toyota-cambridge-trudeau-wynne-1.4649155">https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/toyota ... -1.4649155">https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/toyota-cambridge-trudeau-wynne-1.4649155

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"Along with two other complexes in Detroit and Warren, Ohio. Nearly twenty six hundred good jobs with full benefits lost. This is devastating to Oshawa's economy.



Oshawa assembly plant



The Oshawa plant, where GM Canada has its headquarters, produces the Chevrolet Impala and the Cadillac XTS cars, the majority of which are shipped south of the border, along with the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickup trucks.



The complex is one of three GM manufacturing facilities in Ontario, along with St. Catharines and Ingersoll.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.4920438">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/general-motors-closure-oshawa-assembly-plant-1.4920438

They are shuttering 4 plants in the USA. I don't why GM can't make it work while other car companies are adding jobs.

Bricktop

Because if Australia is anything to go by, GM cannot give their pieces of crap away. Since GM shut down manufacturing here, nearly 20% of their dealers have either switched brands, or just closed their doors.



I believe some Ford dealers have done likewise.



The lesson here is do NOT build a manufacturing sector around foreign companies. They will move manufacturing where they can get the cheapest labour, and that will NEVER be in western countries.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Because if Australia is anything to go by, GM cannot give their pieces of crap away. Since GM shut down manufacturing here, nearly 20% of their dealers have either switched brands, or just closed their doors.



I believe some Ford dealers have done likewise.



The lesson here is do NOT build a manufacturing sector around foreign companies. They will move manufacturing where they can get the cheapest labour, and that will NEVER be in western countries.

Not true. Toyota and Honda have been expanding manufacturing in Canada.

Bricktop

Because the dollars add up to build in Canada and supply the US market.



When the Korean cars start squeezing them out of market share, what do you think they will do? Close Japanese plants?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Because the dollars add up to build in Canada and supply the US market.



When the Korean cars start squeezing them out of market share, what do you think they will do? Close Japanese plants?

Actually, Hyundai is expanding it's manufacturing in the USA. It's cheaper for Korean and Japanese auto manufacturers to build plants in North America than export from Asia. The tariffs would make their cars cost prohibitive.



Hyundai plans $3.1B investment in U.S. plants

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/01/19/hyundai-plans-31b-investment-us-plants-research/96779920/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/ca ... /96779920/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/01/19/hyundai-plans-31b-investment-us-plants-research/96779920/

Bricktop

So, if they build MORE cars, someone is going to sell LESS cars.



However, I suspect the really vulnerable manufacturers are Ford, GM and Chrysler. Their cars are generally well below the standard of even the South Koreans now.



If it wasn't for their "truck" line, Ford in Australia would be in serious trouble. GM sales are in free fall, and they don't seem to be able to arrest it. None of their Asian made vehicles are worth the money, so they're trying some US built "trucks" here. It won't help them. European car sales are skyrocketing, and market leaders are either Japanese or Korean.



GM (branded as "Holden" here) will be gone in less then 20 years if they cannot find something to sell for our market.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"So, if they build MORE cars, someone is going to sell LESS cars.



However, I suspect the really vulnerable manufacturers are Ford, GM and Chrysler. Their cars are generally well below the standard of even the South Koreans now.



If it wasn't for their "truck" line, Ford in Australia would be in serious trouble. GM sales are in free fall, and they don't seem to be able to arrest it. None of their Asian made vehicles are worth the money, so they're trying some US built "trucks" here. It won't help them. European car sales are skyrocketing, and market leaders are either Japanese or Korean.



GM (branded as "Holden" here) will be gone in less then 20 years if they cannot find something to sell for our market.

I read Ford is doing okay here, but maybe it's only trucks, I don't know.



Chrysler has had different partners and they can't seem to make it work..



They are partnered with Fiat now.

Bricktop

Fiat owns Chrysler, and Jeep.



Those brands are regarded as one of the worst for build quality, reliability, support and customer service. Their sales here are dropping dramatically after a couple of years of solid growth. Most people who bought them would never buy another.



Also the parent, brand, Fiat, is regarded as high risk, as well as one of their flagship marques, Alfa Romeo. But Alfa's were always poorly built and unreliable. Their myth exceeds reality by some margin.

Anonymous

North American auto makers produce decent trucks, but the cars are lacking. Malibus are good cars. Chrysler cars are junk and have been that way for a long time.