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If Men Earn More Than Women, it's Because They Work Longer Hours

Started by Anonymous, December 11, 2018, 01:15:07 PM

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Anonymous

I always knew the gender wage gap myth for the same work was bullshit. It doesn't exist in my industry or any other.



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A pair of Harvard University Ph.D. candidates may have put a dagger in the mythical "gender wage gap" oft cited by politicians and pundits as an issue that can be addressed through governmental policy.



In a paper titled, "Why Do Women Earn Less Than Men?" Valentin Bolotnyy and Natalia Emanuel study the unionized environment of the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA).



Economist John Phelan describes the MBTA as a "union shop with uniform hourly wages where men and women adhere to the same rules and receive the same benefits. Workers are promoted on the basis of seniority rather than performance, and male and female workers of the same seniority have the same choices for scheduling, routes, vacation, and overtime. There is almost no scope here for a sexist boss to favor men over women.



And yet, Bolotnyy and Emanuel reported that "female workers earn $0.89 on the male-worker dollar (weekly earnings)." The Ph.D. candidates used "confidential administrative data" on the authority's bus and train operators "to show that the weekly earnings gap can be explained by the workplace choices that women and men make."



From the abstract:



Women value time away from work and flexibility more than men, taking more unpaid time off using the Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA) and working fewer overtime hours than men. When overtime hours are scheduled three months in advance, men and women work a similar number of hours; but when those hours are offered at the last minute, men work nearly twice as many. When selecting work schedules, women try to avoid weekend, holiday, and split shifts more than men.



To avoid unfavorable work times, women prioritize their schedules over route safety and select routes with a higher probability of accidents. Women are less likely than men to game the scheduling system by trading off work hours at regular wages for overtime hours at premium wages.



In his Fee.com article on the subject, Phelan explains where the often cited 80 cents for every dollar figure is derived: "by taking the total annual earnings of men in the American economy in a given year and dividing that by the number of male workers. This gives you the average annual earnings of an American man. Then you do the same thing but for women. The average annual women's earnings come in at about 80 percent of the average annual man's earnings. Presto, you have a gender wage gap."



Because they've conducted a study on males and females working the same job at the same place, Phelan believes Bolotnyy and Emanuel's research will be difficult to dismiss.



"The 'gender wage gap' is as real as unicorns and has been killed more times than Michael Myers," writes Phelan. "Yet politicians feel the need to genuflect before this phantom figure."

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"I always knew the gender wage gap myth for the same work was bullshit. It doesn't exist in my industry or any other.



https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/10/gender-wage-gap-men-working-longer-hours/?utm_medium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/10/gend ... dium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/10/gender-wage-gap-men-working-longer-hours/?utm_medium=email

A pair of Harvard University Ph.D. candidates may have put a dagger in the mythical "gender wage gap" oft cited by politicians and pundits as an issue that can be addressed through governmental policy.



In a paper titled, "Why Do Women Earn Less Than Men?" Valentin Bolotnyy and Natalia Emanuel study the unionized environment of the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA).



Economist John Phelan describes the MBTA as a "union shop with uniform hourly wages where men and women adhere to the same rules and receive the same benefits. Workers are promoted on the basis of seniority rather than performance, and male and female workers of the same seniority have the same choices for scheduling, routes, vacation, and overtime. There is almost no scope here for a sexist boss to favor men over women.



And yet, Bolotnyy and Emanuel reported that "female workers earn $0.89 on the male-worker dollar (weekly earnings)." The Ph.D. candidates used "confidential administrative data" on the authority's bus and train operators "to show that the weekly earnings gap can be explained by the workplace choices that women and men make."



From the abstract:



Women value time away from work and flexibility more than men, taking more unpaid time off using the Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA) and working fewer overtime hours than men. When overtime hours are scheduled three months in advance, men and women work a similar number of hours; but when those hours are offered at the last minute, men work nearly twice as many. When selecting work schedules, women try to avoid weekend, holiday, and split shifts more than men.



To avoid unfavorable work times, women prioritize their schedules over route safety and select routes with a higher probability of accidents. Women are less likely than men to game the scheduling system by trading off work hours at regular wages for overtime hours at premium wages.



In his Fee.com article on the subject, Phelan explains where the often cited 80 cents for every dollar figure is derived: "by taking the total annual earnings of men in the American economy in a given year and dividing that by the number of male workers. This gives you the average annual earnings of an American man. Then you do the same thing but for women. The average annual women's earnings come in at about 80 percent of the average annual man's earnings. Presto, you have a gender wage gap."



Because they've conducted a study on males and females working the same job at the same place, Phelan believes Bolotnyy and Emanuel's research will be difficult to dismiss.



"The 'gender wage gap' is as real as unicorns and has been killed more times than Michael Myers," writes Phelan. "Yet politicians feel the need to genuflect before this phantom figure."

Overtime is not available where I work, but it is where my husband works..



There are not many females working there, but they usually turned down longer hours in the field when it was offered.

Anonymous

I don't really have an opinion on this. I  get a base salary, but most of my pay is performance based. If doesn't discriminate based on gender.



My girlfriend and my two sisters have never mentioned wage discrimination either, so I can't even offer third party anecdotal evidence.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"I don't really have an opinion on this. I  get a base salary, but most of my pay is performance based. If doesn't discriminate based on gender.



My girlfriend and my two sisters have never mentioned either so I can't even offer third party anecdotal evidence.

We don't know any lady who has said, I was paid less than others only because I'm a a woman.

Thiel

I don't have two wage scales for my employees; one for men and a lower one for women. None of my customers and suppliers pay men more than women either.



My female employees do take more unpaid time off though.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "Thiel"I don't have two wage scales for my employees; one for men and a lower one for women. None of my customers and suppliers pay men more than women either.



My female employees do take more unpaid time off though.

Hello Thiel, It's nice to see you again..

 ac_smile

Any Christmas plans?

Thiel

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Thiel"I don't have two wage scales for my employees; one for men and a lower one for women. None of my customers and suppliers pay men more than women either.



My female employees do take more unpaid time off though.

Hello Thiel, It's nice to see you again..

 ac_smile

Any Christmas plans?

Nice to see you too Fash.



I usually go to my sister's in Winnipeg on December 24. My nephews and their families all gather there too.
gay, conservative and proud

Odinson

I have never seen nor heard of a paper where it says "pay-scale for women"..

Anonymous

Quote from: "Odinson"I have never seen nor heard of a paper where it says "pay-scale for women"..

Because it doesn't exist.