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We spent years trying to deport a man - and now he's suing us

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I am a firm believer that orderly skills based immigration is an economic bonanza. But, abuses of our refugee process are a drag on our limited resources. Reforms need to be implemented to prevent illegal border crossings, speed up hearings and quicker exit orders for those who's claims for asylum are rejected.



An Egyptian man is suing the federal government for $34 million for supposedly violating his rights, plus an additional $3.4 million in punitive damages, according to a report in the National Post.



For 17 years, the feds have been trying to deport the man, named Mahmoud Jaballah, over his alleged terror ties.



Despite the best efforts of our security and intelligence community, our leftist courts repeatedly dismissed evidence tying Jaballah to various terrorists and terror attacks on the basis of how the information was collected.



In Canada, it always seems like the rights and freedoms of terrorists comes first.



The lawsuit and the failed court cases are just the tip of the iceberg, however, when it comes to the absurdity of this case.



Back in 1996, Jaballah and his family used fake passports from Saudi Arabia to come to Canada. They lied and took advantage of our generosity.



When the family arrived, they admitted that they were Egyptian asylum seekers and filed for refugee status. Their claim was based on the fact that they said they would be persecuted by the Egyptian government if they were to be deported.



Unlike many bona fide refugees fleeing Egypt at the time, the Jaballah family were not Coptic Christians or members of the persecuted Jewish community.



They weren't part of an ethnic minority nor were they religious dissidents who had contradicted barbaric apostasy or blasphemy laws.



No no. The reason Jaballah said he could not return to Egypt was because the Egyptian government believed he was part of al Qaeda.



You know, the notorious terrorist organization led by Osama bin Laden that just five years later crashed planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing nearly 3,000 innocent civilians and dozens of Canadians. That al Qaeda.



He was an alleged refugee because he was an alleged terrorist.



Rather than sending Jaballah back on the first plane to Cairo, remarkably, Canada let him stay.



This despite the fact that his own country accused him of being linked to terrorists engaged in a covert war against the West.



Thankfully, not everyone in the federal government was as naive as those in the immigration department who let him stay. Canada's intelligence agency, CSIS, immediately started investigating Jaballah.



By tapping his phone and surveilling his whereabouts, CSIS was able to gather enough evidence to claim he was a national security threat to Canada. He was arrested in 1999 through a national security certificate — a tool used to deport non-citizens who are deemed to be a threat to national security.



The federal courts, however, dismissed the certificate and Jaballah was let go. He was arrested again in 2001, and this time held for several years following 9/11. In 2007, however, the use of national security certificates were found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and Jaballah was once again set free.



In 2008, he was arrested again, this time over the allegation he was tied to the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Africa that killed 200 people. He was held but once again set free due to technicalities in how the evidence was gathered.



For over twenty years, Jaballah has managed to stay in Canada despite the continued and best efforts of the government of Canada.



Now, he's suing us for $37 million.



This case demonstrates everything wrong with our legal and our immigration system.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-we-spent-years-trying-to-deport-a-man-and-now-hes-suing-us">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... s-suing-us">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-we-spent-years-trying-to-deport-a-man-and-now-hes-suing-us

Anonymous

I never used to look at it, but I'm seeing more all the time, that illegal border crossings are a drag on taxpayer funded agencies as well as a security risk. It's not just the US that needs to do something about illegal immigration. We need to reform our refugee process.



By Anthony Furey of Sun News Media



Bordering on a phobia

Illegal immigration real thing, in the US and Canada




I'm not sure it's supposed to work this way, but I just read one of those tedious pieces that "fact checks" everything Donald Trump says and maybe it was supposed to turn me against the wall but it's left me thinking more than ever that it's probably something they should be doing sooner or later.



"There is a growing humanitarian and security crisis at our Southern border," the U.S. President said Tuesday during his televised address to the nation defending the need for a southern wall.



Here's what the left-leaning outlet NPR concluded in their check of the claim: "Illegal border crossings in the most recent fiscal year (ending in September 2018) were actually lower than either 2016 or 2014 and much lower than at their peak around 2000. The number of unauthorized border-crossers is also dwarfed by the number of people who overstay their visas. But there has been a spike in crossings in the past few months, topping 60,000 in both October and November."



Wait, what? No matter where it sits in the long-term rankings, that is a big number of people apprehended crossing illegally into the country in just one month, especially when it's not like there's some massive war or natural disaster on the other side.



The Customs and Border Patrol website pegs the full tally for November at 62,456. The highest over the last five years is 66,842, that was in October 2016 just before Trump was elected. The lowest is April 2017 at 15,798, and it's believed — although hasn't been proven — that this was caused because potential crossers wrongly thought Trump had tightened the border substantially so they initially stopped bothering to head over.



Either way, w[size=150]hen your number of annual apprehended individuals — and this isn't all of the people crossing illegally, just those stopped by border agents — is consistently in the half a million range, you have a serious problem.

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Why do Democrats and the left in the U.S. now refuse to discuss this rationally? For the most part, it's just silly accusations of immorality and racism.



Is it just, as Trump himself suggested on Tuesday, because he's the one now asking for it? After all, they supported versions of it in the past.



"The government has built nearly 700 miles of wall and fencing since 2006, mostly on federal land and where the terrain does not provide a natural barrier," The New York Times reported last year. The current $5.7 billion Trump is seeking and not yet getting, which is causing this partial shutdown, is to build an extra 200 miles.



Is expanding the wall the magical solution that will cure all? Most likely not. But nothing is. What it is though is one of the many methods available to tackle the problem. So give it a shot. And spare everyone the over-the top outrage.



Now those who argue that it's an unattractive symbol representing a barrier between two countries aren't wrong. But that just explains why it's sad that the U.S. has this problem in the first place.



Thankfully the Canadian conundrum at Roxham Road is nowhere near as bad as what's happening in the U.S., but Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his ministers still have the same phobia as the U.S. Democrats when it comes to talking about border security.



We do have a problem though. That is a fact. [size=150]We never used to have a steady stream of people crossing illegally into Canada. Now we do. Around 1,500 per month. It's not a good thing. But you wouldn't know it from the current government, which spends more time using the issue as an opportunity to call Andrew Scheer and the Conservatives bad names than they do discussing solutions.

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And so far there doesn't seem to be a cure for this strange affliction.

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"I am a firm believer that orderly skills based immigration is an economic bonanza. But, abuses of our refugee process are a drag on our limited resources. Reforms need to be implemented to prevent illegal border crossings, speed up hearings and quicker exit orders for those who's claims for asylum are rejected.



An Egyptian man is suing the federal government for $34 million for supposedly violating his rights, plus an additional $3.4 million in punitive damages, according to a report in the National Post.



For 17 years, the feds have been trying to deport the man, named Mahmoud Jaballah, over his alleged terror ties.



Despite the best efforts of our security and intelligence community, our leftist courts repeatedly dismissed evidence tying Jaballah to various terrorists and terror attacks on the basis of how the information was collected.



In Canada, it always seems like the rights and freedoms of terrorists comes first.



The lawsuit and the failed court cases are just the tip of the iceberg, however, when it comes to the absurdity of this case.



Back in 1996, Jaballah and his family used fake passports from Saudi Arabia to come to Canada. They lied and took advantage of our generosity.



When the family arrived, they admitted that they were Egyptian asylum seekers and filed for refugee status. Their claim was based on the fact that they said they would be persecuted by the Egyptian government if they were to be deported.



Unlike many bona fide refugees fleeing Egypt at the time, the Jaballah family were not Coptic Christians or members of the persecuted Jewish community.



They weren't part of an ethnic minority nor were they religious dissidents who had contradicted barbaric apostasy or blasphemy laws.



No no. The reason Jaballah said he could not return to Egypt was because the Egyptian government believed he was part of al Qaeda.



You know, the notorious terrorist organization led by Osama bin Laden that just five years later crashed planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing nearly 3,000 innocent civilians and dozens of Canadians. That al Qaeda.



He was an alleged refugee because he was an alleged terrorist.



Rather than sending Jaballah back on the first plane to Cairo, remarkably, Canada let him stay.



This despite the fact that his own country accused him of being linked to terrorists engaged in a covert war against the West.



Thankfully, not everyone in the federal government was as naive as those in the immigration department who let him stay. Canada's intelligence agency, CSIS, immediately started investigating Jaballah.



By tapping his phone and surveilling his whereabouts, CSIS was able to gather enough evidence to claim he was a national security threat to Canada. He was arrested in 1999 through a national security certificate — a tool used to deport non-citizens who are deemed to be a threat to national security.



The federal courts, however, dismissed the certificate and Jaballah was let go. He was arrested again in 2001, and this time held for several years following 9/11. In 2007, however, the use of national security certificates were found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and Jaballah was once again set free.



In 2008, he was arrested again, this time over the allegation he was tied to the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Africa that killed 200 people. He was held but once again set free due to technicalities in how the evidence was gathered.



For over twenty years, Jaballah has managed to stay in Canada despite the continued and best efforts of the government of Canada.



Now, he's suing us for $37 million.



This case demonstrates everything wrong with our legal and our immigration system.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-we-spent-years-trying-to-deport-a-man-and-now-hes-suing-us">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... s-suing-us">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-we-spent-years-trying-to-deport-a-man-and-now-hes-suing-us

He applies for refugee status because as an Al Q member he was being persecuted. :crazy:



I will be so glad to get out of this prog hole of a country. Five yeas and two months to go.

cc

I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"Suing for "gross incompetence"?

Wouldn't it be great if we could bring a class action lawsuit against Justine for gross incompetence.

Bricktop


Gaon

Quote from: "Bricktop"You could move to Australia.



No immigrant floods here.

Hasn't Australia lowered the number of immigrants they are going to accept this year?
The Russian Rock It

Bricktop

Yes. That is LEGAL immigrants.



Illegals don't get in. Period.

Anonymous

We have to reform our refugee policy quickly before it gets out of hand.



Costs rise on refugee backlog

$74M not enough to clear claims: Internal documents




OTTAWA — The arms length agency that processes refugee claims in Canada estimated it would need twice as much money as it will ultimately receive to significantly tackle a major backlog in asylum claims, caused in part from an influx of irregular migrants.



Documents obtained under access-to-information law show the Immigration and Refugee Board drafted costing estimates in November 2017 showing it would need $140 million annually plus an additional $40 million in one-time costs to finalize 36,000 extra refugee cases every year.



That's how many cases the board would need to complete to cut the backlog and also meet the current intake of new asylum claims.



The government ultimately earmarked $74 million to the IRB over two years in last year's federal budget to address Canada's refugee backlog, which currently stands at over 64,000.



The IRB says in the documents the amount will not be enough to finalize the outstanding claims within two years and that a longer-term strategy is needed to tackle the problem.



The documents also reveal employees processing the claims have raised concerns about heavy workloads, problems with their pay due to the Phoenix pay system and have pressed management about when the influx of claims will