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Started by Gaon, February 20, 2019, 01:14:37 AM

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Gaon

A fascinating tidbit of history not widely known outside of Israel.



SON OF 'JAPANESE SCHINDLER' DEDICATES MEMORIAL IN JERUSALEM



Roughly 6,000 Jews were saved by Chiune Sugihara, Japanese ambassador to Lithuania in 1940, who granted them visas to travel to Japan and escape the Nazis.



The story of Oskar Schindler, the German industrialist who saved hundreds of Jews from death in the Holocaust and honored by Yad Vashem as a "Righteous Among the Nations," is one of the most well known episodes in Holocaust history.



Less well known is the story of the "Japanese Schindler," Chiune Sugihara, who according to estimates saved roughly 6,000 Lithuanian Jews simply by granting them visas.



ugihara was Japan's ambassador to Lithuania in 1940, when the Germans invaded the country. Jews came to the Japanese consulate in the hope of obtaining visas to escape the Nazis. The Japanese government denied Sugihara's request to grant them visas, but he decided to disobey the order and grant them anyway.



He was able to print and stamp about 2,000 family visas, on which multiple people could travel, before he was forced to leave Kaunas (at that time the Lithuanian capital). According to witnesses, he kept writing visas on his way to the train, and when he ran out of time he threw papers stamped with the consulate seal and his signature out the train window, so that refugees in the following crowd could write the visas on their own.



Once he returned to Japan, he was fired by the government for disobediance.

 

A report on Israel's Kan News followed Sugihara's son, Nobuki, at a dedication of a plaque for his father at the Chamber of the Holocaust, a small museum on Mt. Zion in Jerusalem.



The elder Sugihara was recognized as a Righteous Among the Nations in 1985. He refused a monetary award from the Israeli government, but he agreed to accept a scholarship for his son to study in Jerusalem.





"My father didn't tell me anything [about his work in Lithuania] when I was a child," said Nobuki in Hebrew in an interview with Kan. He was 19 years old when he discovered what his father did.





After asking his father what he thought when he was granting the visas, Chiune replied that he only hoped that one or two Jewish refugees would escape from the situation in Europe.

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Son-of-Japanese-Schindler-dedicates-memorial-in-Jerusalem-580814">https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Son-of-J ... lem-580814">https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Son-of-Japanese-Schindler-dedicates-memorial-in-Jerusalem-580814
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Anonymous

I've read that one or more Japanese officials had saved Jews in Europe..



Ho Feng Shan was like a Chinese Schindler

https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/19/asia/china-jews-schindler-ho-feng-shan/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/19/asia/chi ... index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/19/asia/china-jews-schindler-ho-feng-shan/index.html

Odinson

It is not as interesting as a german doing it..

caskur

Japs were interned in Australia during WW2.



Japs were disgusting...



I don't know how I feel about them but my grandma's generation couldn't stand them...



They murdered 200 nurses in Darwin... so for that act alone, they shouldn't be forgiven...





They just marched the 200 nurses into the sea and machine gunned them.



My brother went to Japan last year for a holiday...
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

@realAzhyaAryola

Quote from: "Odinson"It is not as interesting as a german doing it..


Of course you know that is a bigoted comment just because he's a slanted-eyed person. Well, I'm told Germans stink because they are uncircumcised.
@realAzhyaAryola



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@realAzhyaAryola

Well, I hated the Japs for a long time growing up as a kid. They beheaded my great grandfather whose house they wanted to use as a headquarters.
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@realAzhyaAryola

I cannot hold a grudge forever though. I have moved on.
@realAzhyaAryola



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Odinson

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Odinson"It is not as interesting as a german doing it..


Of course you know that is a bigoted comment just because he's a slanted-eyed person. Well, I'm told Germans stink because they are uncircumcised.


The only thing that is so fascinating about Oskar Schindler is that he was the "righteous man" among his ilk.





People like reading stories about germans who spared some jews.









Japanese or any other ethnicity doing it just aint as interesting.

Gaon

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"Well, I hated the Japs for a long time growing up as a kid. They beheaded my great grandfather whose house they wanted to use as a headquarters.

That's awful. And I am not defending the Axis power, Japan. But, in the war machine that was the Empire of Japan, at least one person risked serious consequences to save lives.
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caskur

Well civilians aren't armed so are completely defenseless against the military so any act of saving any civilians was an act of compassion.



Acts of compassion were displayed by both sides..



But gypsies were bad and still are today.



I'd never bother saving one.





If you're wondering why, the reason is, they're steep into child pornography and child exploitation. Unforgivable.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"Well civilians aren't armed so are completely defenseless against the military so any act of saving any civilians was an act of compassion.



Acts of compassion were displayed by both sides..



But gypsies were bad and still are today.



I'd never bother saving one.





If you're wondering why, the reason is, they're steep into child pornography and child exploitation. Unforgivable.

I'm sure there are good Roma people.

Odinson

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"Well civilians aren't armed so are completely defenseless against the military so any act of saving any civilians was an act of compassion.



Acts of compassion were displayed by both sides..



But gypsies were bad and still are today.



I'd never bother saving one.





If you're wondering why, the reason is, they're steep into child pornography and child exploitation. Unforgivable.

I'm sure there are good Roma people.


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Anonymous

Quote from: "Gaon"A fascinating tidbit of history not widely known outside of Israel.



SON OF 'JAPANESE SCHINDLER' DEDICATES MEMORIAL IN JERUSALEM



Roughly 6,000 Jews were saved by Chiune Sugihara, Japanese ambassador to Lithuania in 1940, who granted them visas to travel to Japan and escape the Nazis.



The story of Oskar Schindler, the German industrialist who saved hundreds of Jews from death in the Holocaust and honored by Yad Vashem as a "Righteous Among the Nations," is one of the most well known episodes in Holocaust history.



Less well known is the story of the "Japanese Schindler," Chiune Sugihara, who according to estimates saved roughly 6,000 Lithuanian Jews simply by granting them visas.



ugihara was Japan's ambassador to Lithuania in 1940, when the Germans invaded the country. Jews came to the Japanese consulate in the hope of obtaining visas to escape the Nazis. The Japanese government denied Sugihara's request to grant them visas, but he decided to disobey the order and grant them anyway.



He was able to print and stamp about 2,000 family visas, on which multiple people could travel, before he was forced to leave Kaunas (at that time the Lithuanian capital). According to witnesses, he kept writing visas on his way to the train, and when he ran out of time he threw papers stamped with the consulate seal and his signature out the train window, so that refugees in the following crowd could write the visas on their own.



Once he returned to Japan, he was fired by the government for disobediance.

 

A report on Israel's Kan News followed Sugihara's son, Nobuki, at a dedication of a plaque for his father at the Chamber of the Holocaust, a small museum on Mt. Zion in Jerusalem.



The elder Sugihara was recognized as a Righteous Among the Nations in 1985. He refused a monetary award from the Israeli government, but he agreed to accept a scholarship for his son to study in Jerusalem.





"My father didn't tell me anything [about his work in Lithuania] when I was a child," said Nobuki in Hebrew in an interview with Kan. He was 19 years old when he discovered what his father did.





After asking his father what he thought when he was granting the visas, Chiune replied that he only hoped that one or two Jewish refugees would escape from the situation in Europe.

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Son-of-Japanese-Schindler-dedicates-memorial-in-Jerusalem-580814">https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Son-of-J ... lem-580814">https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Son-of-Japanese-Schindler-dedicates-memorial-in-Jerusalem-580814

A great human story.

Odinson

Doing all kinds of dishonest labour is part of the gypsy culture..



Most of them cannot read or write.





They run all kinds of scams to get more welfare..



Gypsy families are tight and they pool in their gains from welfare scams, burglary, thievery etc.







They even double park...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Odinson"Doing all kinds of dishonest labour is part of the gypsy culture..



Most of them cannot read or write.





They run all kinds of scams to get more welfare..



Gypsy families are tight and they pool in their gains from welfare scams, burglary, thievery etc.







They even double park...

Oh no.

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