Two fools meeting...

[Anonymous]

Italians eat all that,...



The Mexicans just use Cumin in their dishes...



I've never heard of Oaxaca or Chipotle... I'll have to look up that.

I've never seen refried beans, or black turtle beans on a Italian restaurant menu.

Because refried beans are called something else in Italy. Italians are HUGE bean eaters.



Minestrone soup has various beans in it and their most common soup.



I had an Italian girlfriend come back from the USA 35 years ago who was going all nuts over Mexican food and made some for me... why she was excited was, she said, "Mexican food is just like Italian food with different spices."



The Spaniards influenced Mexico, and the Spaniards served ancient Rome. Although tomato and corn and I think potato were from South America so someone somewhere took tomatoes, potatoes and corn to Europe.

Corn is a staple in Mexican cuisine(as it is throughout the Americas) and pasta is a staple in Italian cuisine..



Italians add olive oil to everything and Mexicans add lime..



The herbs Italians use are not part of Mexican cuisine..



The commonality seems to be tomatoes.

[caskur]

Wiki says refried beans are Pinto Beans usually and they originated in Northern Spain.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refried_beans">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refried_beans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinto_bean">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinto_bean





I want know who the first cooks were and how they thought up their dishes. A subject that has always fascinated me.

[caskur]

Italians eat all that,...



The Mexicans just use Cumin in their dishes...



I've never heard of Oaxaca or Chipotle... I'll have to look up that.

I've never seen refried beans, or black turtle beans on a Italian restaurant menu.

Because refried beans are called something else in Italy. Italians are HUGE bean eaters.



Minestrone soup has various beans in it and their most common soup.



I had an Italian girlfriend come back from the USA 35 years ago who was going all nuts over Mexican food and made some for me... why she was excited was, she said, "Mexican food is just like Italian food with different spices."



The Spaniards influenced Mexico, and the Spaniards served ancient Rome. Although tomato and corn and I think potato were from South America so someone somewhere took tomatoes, potatoes and corn to Europe.

Corn is a staple in Mexican cuisine(as it is throughout the Americas) and pasta is a staple in Italian cuisine..



Italians add olive oil to everything and Mexicans add lime..



The herbs Italians use are not part of Mexican cuisine..



The commonality seems to be tomatoes.

But olive oil is only a recent addition.. it was far too expensive for the average Italian so they used lard... same as the Thai... they use lard as well. They buy pork bellies, roast them until all the fat comes out... sit around in rings (the women), eat the crackle and use the lard in cooking over the next month... I know bc I used to sit with them and watch what they did...





Thai like lime as well...





Corn or whole wheat.. or brown rice and potato are the complex carbs... that's the difference in the nations really. Lemon and olive oil is the traditional salad dressing of Europe... or  Mediterranean  Europe at least.

[caskur]

So I just looked up Black Turtle Beans in Wiki and that bean is native to the Americas wiki says..



"The black turtle bean is a small, shiny variety of the common bean (Phaseolus vulgaris) especially popular in Latin American cuisine, though it can also be found in the Cajun and Creole cuisines of south Louisiana. Like most common beans, it is native to the Americas, but has been introduced around the world. It is also used in East Indian cooking, Punjabi cuisine, and in Maharshtrian cuisine, it is known as Kala Ghevada. It is used interchangeably with vigna mungo (black gram) in countries such as the United States. The black turtle bean is often simply called the black bean (frijoles negros, zaragoza, judía negra, poroto negro, or caraota o habichuela negra in Spanish; and feijão preto in Portuguese), although this terminology can cause confusion with other black beans."

[Wazzzup]

While its different than the OP.  This article made me think of the title "two fools meeting"



Actress and liberal activist Debra Messing apologized this week after her Instagram photo of cupcakes decorated as vulvas offended members of the trans community.



The "Will & Grace" star celebrated International Women's Day on Friday by posting a photo showing a dozen cupcakes decorated as vulvas in varying colors, shapes and sizes.



"Powerful, beautiful, and sweet," Ms. Messing wrote.



The actress later amended the post after members of the trans community apparently complained.



"I want to apologize to my trans sisters," Ms. Messing wrote. "This photo was supposed to be light, & sassy. The first thing I thought when I saw this photo was 'wow how wonderful. Each one is unique in color and shape and size.'



"The porn industry has perpetuated this myth of what a 'beautiful' vagina looks like and as a result there are women who feel shame or insecure about the shape of the vulva," she continued. "I loved that this picture said 'every single one is beautiful and unique and that's powerful.' I did not, however, think 'but there are innumerable beautiful, unique and powerful women who don't have a vagina.' And I SHOULD have. And for that I am so so sorry.[/quote]  when crazies meet