New Zealand now understands gun control

[Gaon]

I know that's only a meme Gaon, but to compare those totalitarians to what New Zealand has done is more than a stretch.

I would not make such a silly comparison.

[Wazzzup]

They didn't need to ban guns. the New Zealand firearm murder rate declined the same as Australia's, who banned guns.



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[Bricktop]

As always, a set of lines makes a nice headline, but fails to explain the numbers in the graph.



The reduction is ONLY in relation to homicide deaths. Not total firearm related deaths. Given the population size of New Zealand, Australia and Canada compared to the US, the correct measurement for comparison is the standard deviation, not average per 100,000.



This is why people declare there are lies, damn lies and statistics. People roll out a statistic which is not an accurate measurement of the true data.



Also, the statistics do not explain the cause of the spikes and troughs, which are far more meaningful.

[Bricktop]

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Ah, memes...where lies go in order to deceive.

[Skippy]

I decry the Howard restrictions on gun ownership in the aftermath of the port Arthur massacre. Australia is in a precarious situation being surrounded by hostile Asian countries. Japanese admiral yamamoto one said invasion of the US was impossible because there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. Now that oz has disarmed itself they are vunarable to china and Indonesia. Thank god some aussies buried their semi automatics to use if they are invaded

[Bricktop]

Perhaps before the Japanese or anyone else considers invading Australia on the premise that there are fewer guns per capita than other nations, they may wish to consider invading Italy, Mexico, Russia, Northern Ireland, South Africa or Spain...amongst the almost 180 nations with fewer guns per capita than Australia.



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Prior to the invasion of their country by the US, the Iraqi's provided thousands of civilians with AK47's to supplement the military with a civilian security force.



Most of them, on seeing a US tank or helicopter, dropped their weapons and legged it.



Most civilians in any other country would do the same thing. Including the US.

[Skippy]

Perhaps before the Japanese or anyone else considers invading Australia on the premise that there are fewer guns per capita than other nations, they may wish to consider invading Italy, Mexico, Russia, Northern Ireland, South Africa or Spain...amongst the almost 180 nations with fewer guns per capita than Australia.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country">//https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country



Prior to the invasion of their country by the US, the Iraqi's provided thousands of civilians with AK47's to supplement the military with a civilian security force.



Most of them, on seeing a US tank or helicopter, dropped their weapons and legged it.



Most civilians in any other country would do the same thing. Including the US.

They will want to invade for its reasourses the gold mines and opals and iron ore, just like Hitler invaded Russia for the same aim. I suppose the US and UK won't be around for ever to protect australia

[Bricktop]

I doubt our gold resources are of a dimension to attract unwanted guests and amongst all of the idiotic, asinine and pointless reasons men have gone to war, none would be so silly and trite as wanting access to opals. The world already has access to our vast iron ore stocks.



The US, UK, Canada and New Zealand will always stand together, because we share common geneology and racial origins. We are, in effect, cousins in a very real sense. Perhaps New Zealand will stand alone, but if push came to shove, they would help as they've done in the past.



Invading Australia would be no easy task. There is no chance of a surprise attack, given the distances required to reach our shores with a military force capable of invasion. Australia would probably have MONTHS of forewarning, and on that basis, any invader would need to consider where they would land. If they tried to circumvent the country to land in the south or east, their fleet would be easy pickings. The only realistic option would be to invade from the north.



They would then need to cross the vast expanse of desert and bushland that has very little water to reach the larger population centres. Australia is not like Iraq, where the desert is just a flat sandpit. Australia's desert is harsh landscape, with very few roads (that would have been destroyed before the enemy fleet arrived). It is a massive barrier between north and south east, with few passages for military convoys. Any mobilisation would be exposed to air attacks as well as ground based disruption. Australia would be tougher to invade than Afghanistan.



Australia's military is modern and well equipped, with full backing and support from the US and the UK. The US is bound to Australia's defence by the ANZUS treaty, which binds the two nations together in time of conflict. In return the US operates strategically crucial espionage facilities in Australia. Any attack on Australia would be an attack on US interests.



Australia's status with the US is the equivalent of Israel's...even stronger when you consider the racial and cultural commonalities.



Our potential enemies know this well.

[Skippy]

Any invasion by China of Australia would likely be followed by ethnic cleansing, just like they are doing in Tibet, Siankiang (East Turkistan) and Inner Mongolia, owing to the size of the chinese population they could flood Austraila with 100 million han chinese

[Bricktop]

I think you need to peruse an atlas.



Whilst I take the point you're making...moving 100 million people ANYWHERE would be a logistical mountain of problems. And how will they feed themselves when they get here. Australia does not have the capacity to feed and water that many people.



If China wanted to extend it's boundaries, it would be far better to move into SE Asia and Korea than Australia.

[Anonymous]

I decry the Howard restrictions on gun ownership in the aftermath of the port Arthur massacre. Australia is in a precarious situation being surrounded by hostile Asian countries. Japanese admiral yamamoto one said invasion of the US was impossible because there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. Now that oz has disarmed itself they are vunarable to china and Indonesia. Thank god some aussies buried their semi automatics to use if they are invaded

If China does invade, their plan probably is not a conventional invasion..



They will bring a nation to it's knees with an economic embargo and e-warfare.