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Anonymous

Billionaires and big corporations support carbon taxes. That should tell anybody with half a brain it's wrong.

Bricktop

The whole premise of "raise taxes to cool the planet" is as absurd as the flat earth movement.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"The whole premise of "raise taxes to cool the planet" is as absurd as the flat earth movement.

If you disagree with carbon taxes you are a denier. :crazy:

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"The whole premise of "raise taxes to cool the planet" is as absurd as the flat earth movement.

Carbon taxation is not a thermostat.

Anonymous

Here is an interesting perspective on climate change by climate scientist Dr Don Easterbrook.

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Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Here is an interesting perspective on climate change by climate scientist Dr Don Easterbrook.

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IHJ, I watched that video in it's entirety..



The amount of C02 in the atmosphere has only gone up eight one thousandth of one per cent since world war 2??

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Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Here is an interesting perspective on climate change by climate scientist Dr Don Easterbrook.

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I don't question the scientific assertion of CO2 being a heat trapping greenhouse gas. But, it is a trace gas. And by putting all their eggs in the C02 alone is warming the planet, the IPCC is not even looking at other things that have changed the temperatures throughout our history, primarily solar activity.

Bricktop

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Bricktop"The whole premise of "raise taxes to cool the planet" is as absurd as the flat earth movement.

If you disagree with carbon taxes you are a denier. :crazy:


Add it to the list.



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All that in ONE package!!!

Anonymous

All of the sacrifices we are making in the name of reducing C02 are being negated by volcanoes.



https://principia-scientific.org/new-co2-science-from-climate-demon-to-saint/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+psintl+%28Principia+Scientific+Intl+-+Latest+News%29&fbclid=IwAR0YQX2Cvqgn2yB-HaRr7A2LkDo5lLHMiyqKytl0tHYQwu-BXib2NfqfWQ8">https://principia-scientific.org/new-co ... ib2NfqfWQ8">https://principia-scientific.org/new-co2-science-from-climate-demon-to-saint/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+psintl+%28Principia+Scientific+Intl+-+Latest+News%29&fbclid=IwAR0YQX2Cvqgn2yB-HaRr7A2LkDo5lLHMiyqKytl0tHYQwu-BXib2NfqfWQ8

The new millenium is seeing revolutionary change in our understanding of carbon dioxide (CO2). Once the demon global warming gas, scientists are increasingly accepting they got that wrong. We examine some of the astonishing developments.



Robin Wylie, is a doctoral candidate in volcanology, at University College London. Like other experts in this field he will shock you with a surprising new fact. Planet Earth is a heavy smoker. The true extent of its habit, though, has only recently begun to surface.



Until around the start of this new century, the academic consensus was that volcanic output of carbon dioxide from erupting volcanoes was tiny. However, the science is now revealing a hidden side to our leaking planet.



In 1992, it was thought that volcanic degassing released something like 100 million tons of CO2 each year. Around the turn of the millennium, this figure was getting closer to 200 million tons.



Mike Burton, of the Italian National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology has found that it could be nearer to 600 million tons. It caps a staggering trend: A six-fold increase in just two decades. [1]



Another esteemed expert, Professor Ian Plimer, reveals what volcanologists and geologists have learned from the 2010 Icelandic eruption. He reports:



"Since its first spewing of volcanic ash, in just FOUR DAYS, it NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT humans have made in the previous five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet."



Of course, for the past 30 years we have been told by government climate 'scientists' that carbon dioxide must be suppressed because it is 'dangerous.' But more recently, even NASA is admitting CO2  is the vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.



Many already knew this from horticultural science where it is essential to pump huge quantities of CO2 into commercial greenhouses to boost crop yield. Paleo-geologists also confirm that over vast geological time scales we currently live in an era of extremely low atmospheric CO2 levels (see graph below).

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The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days from that Icelandic eruption – yes, FOUR DAYS – has totally erased every single effort all of us made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at any one time – EVERY DAY.

Plimer warns:



"I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more 'greenhouse gases' into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in all its years on earth."



Yes, folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over one year – think about it. Professor Plimer's book is well worth reading.



It isn't just volcanoes that form part of Earth's smoking habit. We mustn't forget forest fires. The fact of the matter is that the wildfire seen recently across the western USA and Australia alone will likely negate all efforts to reduce carbon emissions for the next two to three years. And such events can happen every year.



Now put into context the telling fact that our planet's average global temperature COOLED by more than half a degree Celsius from February 2016 to February 2018, according to recent NASA data.



Defying all the expectations for two decades of climate experts NASA's own data proves our planet has been cooling, despite much higher atmospheric CO2 levels.



Not only cooler despite more CO2, but earth is getting much greener!

Anonymous

QuoteProfessor Ian Plimer, reveals what volcanologists and geologists have learned from the 2010 Icelandic eruption. He reports:



"Since its first spewing of volcanic ash, in just FOUR DAYS, it NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT humans have made in the previous five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet."


I don't mind making sacrifices, but I do if all our efforts are in vain.

Anonymous

One of the main lies told by alarmists is that the world is running out of oil. Technology has debunked the peak oil myth. With conservation efforts, the world will be using petroleum products for at least the next two hundred years.



What's ironic about the alarmist argument is that they don't think the world will run out of rare earth metals and petroleum products used to make wind turbines and solar panels. :crazy:



The Earth is not running out of oil and gas, BP says

Global reserves could almost double by 2050 despite booming consumption, oil major says


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/11971280/The-Earth-is-not-running-out-of-oil-and-gas-BP-says.html">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/new ... -says.html">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/11971280/The-Earth-is-not-running-out-of-oil-and-gas-BP-says.html



The world is no longer at risk of running out of oil or gas, with existing technology capable of unlocking so much that global reserves would almost double by 2050 despite booming consumption, BP has said.



When taking into account all accessible forms of energy, including nuclear, wind and solar, there are enough resources to meet 20 times what the world will need over that period, David Eyton, BP Group head of technology said.



"Energy resources are plentiful. Concerns over running out of oil and gas have disappeared," Mr Eyton said at the launch of BP's inaugural Technology Outlook.



Oil and gas companies have invested heavily in squeezing the maximum from existing reservoirs by using chemicals, super computers and robotics. The halving of oil prices since last June has further dampened their appetite to explore for new resources, with more than $200bn-worth of projects scrapped in recent months.



By applying these technologies, the global proved fossil fuel resources could increase from 2.9 trillion barrels of oil equivalent (boe) to 4.8 trillion boe by 2050, nearly double the projected 2.5 trillion boe required to meet global demand until 2050, BP said.



With new exploration and technology, the resources could leap to a staggering 7.5 trillion boe, Mr Eyton said.



"We are probably nearing the point where potential from additional recovery from discovered reservoir exceeds the potential for exploration."

Anonymous

The amount of C02 in the atmosphere is nothing compared to the amount of C02 in the ground. Do you see why cutting man made carbon emissions is an expensive exercise in futility. One volcano can undo all our efforts.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/06/06/how-much-co2-does-a-single-volcano-emit/#501ba8045cbf">https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswith ... 1ba8045cbf">https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/06/06/how-much-co2-does-a-single-volcano-emit/#501ba8045cbf

Recent research about carbon reserves discovered underneath the United States has led to a new estimate of the amount of carbon in the Earth's upper mantle: approximately 100 trillion tons. By contrast, there are only about 3.2 trillion tons of CO2 (containing about 870 billion tons of actual carbon) in the atmosphere today.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"The amount of C02 in the atmosphere is nothing compared to the amount of C02 in the ground. Do you see why cutting man made carbon emissions is an expensive exercise in futility. One volcano can undo all our efforts.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/06/06/how-much-co2-does-a-single-volcano-emit/#501ba8045cbf">https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswith ... 1ba8045cbf">https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/06/06/how-much-co2-does-a-single-volcano-emit/#501ba8045cbf

Recent research about carbon reserves discovered underneath the United States has led to a new estimate of the amount of carbon in the Earth's upper mantle: approximately 100 trillion tons. By contrast, there are only about 3.2 trillion tons of CO2 (containing about 870 billion tons of actual carbon) in the atmosphere today.

I skimmed the article..



Even inactive volcanoes have high emissions..



I wonder if preventing volcanoes from erupting or degassing would be a lot more sensible goal than carbon taxes.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Herman"The amount of C02 in the atmosphere is nothing compared to the amount of C02 in the ground. Do you see why cutting man made carbon emissions is an expensive exercise in futility. One volcano can undo all our efforts.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/06/06/how-much-co2-does-a-single-volcano-emit/#501ba8045cbf">https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswith ... 1ba8045cbf">https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/06/06/how-much-co2-does-a-single-volcano-emit/#501ba8045cbf

Recent research about carbon reserves discovered underneath the United States has led to a new estimate of the amount of carbon in the Earth's upper mantle: approximately 100 trillion tons. By contrast, there are only about 3.2 trillion tons of CO2 (containing about 870 billion tons of actual carbon) in the atmosphere today.

I skimmed the article..



Even inactive volcanoes have high emissions..



I wonder if preventing volcanoes from erupting or degassing would be a lot more sensible goal than carbon taxes.

I have no idea. I have never heard any serious talk about it.

Thiel

Natural science versus political science. What a concept.



Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling



Climate change itself is already in the process of definitively rebutting climate alarmists who think human use of fossil fuels is causing ultimately catastrophic global warming.  That is because natural climate cycles have already turned from warming to cooling, global temperatures have already been declining for more than 10 years, and global temperatures will continue to decline for another two decades or more.



That is one of the most interesting conclusions to come out of the seventh International Climate Change Conference sponsored by the Heartland Institute, held last week in Chicago.  I attended, and served as one of the speakers, talking about The Economic Implications of High Cost Energy.



The conference featured serious natural science, contrary to the self-interested political science you hear from government financed global warming alarmists seeking to justify widely expanded regulatory and taxation powers for government bodies, or government body wannabees, such as the United Nations.  See for yourself, as the conference speeches are online.



What you will see are calm, dispassionate presentations by serious, pedigreed scientists discussing and explaining reams of data.  In sharp contrast to these climate realists, the climate alarmists have long admitted that they cannot defend their theory that humans are causing catastrophic global warming in public debate.  With the conference presentations online, let's see if the alarmists really do have any response.





The Heartland Institute has effectively become the international headquarters of the climate realists, an analog to the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).  It has achieved that status through these international climate conferences, and the publication of its Climate Change Reconsidered volumes, produced in conjunction with the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC).



Those Climate Change Reconsidered volumes are an equivalently thorough scientific rebuttal to the irregular Assessment Reports of the UN's IPCC.  You can ask any advocate of human caused catastrophic global warming what their response is to Climate Change Reconsidered.  If they have none, they are not qualified to discuss the issue intelligently.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/?fbclid=IwAR2te6o1JcC_iB2vxkILe0B-Lq5i3vtggiYi24JiqJ_66BQctML2VD7OboM#2e5107a63de0">https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferra ... 5107a63de0">https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/?fbclid=IwAR2te6o1JcC_iB2vxkILe0B-Lq5i3vtggiYi24JiqJ_66BQctML2VD7OboM#2e5107a63de0
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