Changing Politics & Economics of Western Countries vs The Pariah

[Anonymous]

Nobody seems to believe the fake story about this coronavirus originating in a wet market anymore.

[cc]

True. ^^ A fail by China to keep eyes off their lab





Taiwan President Calls on Beijing to Change Behavior in Order to Hold Talks

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TAIPEI, Taiwan—Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen said she wanted to have "meaningful dialogue" with China but only when Beijing was willing to drop its antagonism and show mutual respect, in a speech on Oct. 10 when Taiwan celebrated its National Day.



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"We are committed to upholding cross-strait stability, but this is not something Taiwan can shoulder alone; it is the joint responsibility of both sides," Tsai said.



"At this stage, the most pressing cross-strait issue is to discuss how we can live in peace and coexist based on mutual respect, goodwill, and understanding," Tsai said. "As long as the Beijing authorities are willing to resolve antagonisms and improve cross-strait relations, while parity and dignity are maintained, we are willing to work together to facilitate meaningful dialogue."

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Chinese Regime Presents 'Urgent Threat' to Institutions and Freedoms in the West: Canadian MP Garnett Genuis[/url][/b]



BY JUSTINA WHEALE AND JAN JEKIELEK October 10, 2020 Updated: October 10, 2020



The gravest security threat the free world faces is ongoing efforts by the Chinese regime and other non-state actors to influence elites and take over control of democratic institutions for their own purposes, says Canadian MP Garnett Genuis.



"It is a real and pressing and urgent threat to our way of life when our municipalities, our universities, private companies, community organizations, and political parties can be co-opted and pushed and pulled to serve the interests of a foreign power—interests and values that are hostile to our own," Genuis told Jan Jekielek on Epoch Times' American Thought Leaders.



As the Conservative Party's shadow minister for international development and human rights and a member of the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China, Genuis says there's a need for more awareness about the Chinese regime's covert influence operations "in every country, at every level."



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"There's a need for a broader recognition of the risk... a recognition of the fact that elites at every level are subject to efforts at this kind of co-opting, whether it's school boards, small town mayors, university presidents, individual members of parliament—there's a lot of attempt at this kind of influence," he said.



"It's so important for people in the free world, in every country at every level, to develop greater awareness about this."



In the past two months alone, a New York City police officer was arrested and accused of spying on the Tibetan community for the Chinese Consulate; five Chinese nationals were charged with allegedly hacking more than 100 companies and entities worldwide; a Chinese researcher at UCLA (University of California Los Angeles) was charged with destroying evidence (a hard drive) to hamper an investigation into whether he had transferred sensitive software to China; a NASA researcher was arrested and accused of hiding his funding from China; and a former CIA officer was arrested for allegedly spying for China for a decade.



Last month, The Epoch Times obtained a document leaked from one of the Chinese regime's foreign affairs offices that showed efforts to target elites in Genuis's home country, Canada. The leaked document revealed a list of targets for influence. Calgary Mayor Naheed Nenshi, a number of Calgary city officials, several academics, and a now-former mayor of St. John's were on it.

[Anonymous]

When will we wake up.

[cc]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-ties-to-us-riots-exposed-by-trevor-loudon-2_3531626.html">[size=110]China Ties to US Riots Exposed by 30 year researcher of  radical and terrorist groups and their covert influence on mainstream politics [/size]



Most of the riots that racked the United States within the last few months were organized by two socialist organizations that have close ties with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), said Trevor Loudon, author, and filmmaker, who has been researching radical and terrorist groups and their covert influence on mainstream politics for more than 30 years.



The Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO) based out of Minneapolis, an openly pro-CCP organization, and Bay Area-based Liberation Road, with very close ties to the Chinese consulate there and the Chinese Progressive Association (CPA), are behind the recent riots, Loudon said in a recent interview on Epoch Times' Crossroads program.



Liberation Road

Liberation Road is "basically a Chinese-directed movement," Loudon said. It is a socialist organization, drawing from Marxist ideology, "with a clear focus on building the resistance to Trump," its website said.



Liberation Road, whose people "burnt Ferguson, Missouri, to the ground in 2014," split from FRSO several years ago over the issue of whether to work with the Democratic Party "and it is the parent body of Black Lives Matter [BLM]," Loudon said.



Some media outlets denied the allegation about links of the Black Future Labs to the Chinese Communist regime because there are two organizations named "Chinese Progressive Association," one in San Francisco and one in Boston. The Black Future Labs works with only the Chinese Progressive Association in San Francisco, which is a different entity than its namesake in Boston, according to the New York Times.



However, both organizations named Chinese Progressive Association (CPA) "are controlled by Liberation Road," Loudon said. "Both of them are controlled by Maoist communists who have been a part of the same groups for 50 years now. They might be organizationally autonomous, but they are part of the same movement."

[Anonymous]

[size=110]China Ties to US Riots Exposed by 30 year researcher of  radical and terrorist groups and their covert influence on mainstream politics [/size]



Most of the riots that racked the United States within the last few months were organized by two socialist organizations that have close ties with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), said Trevor Loudon, author, and filmmaker, who has been researching radical and terrorist groups and their covert influence on mainstream politics for more than 30 years.



The Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO) based out of Minneapolis, an openly pro-CCP organization, and Bay Area-based Liberation Road, with very close ties to the Chinese consulate there and the Chinese Progressive Association (CPA), are behind the recent riots, Loudon said in a recent interview on Epoch Times' Crossroads program.



Liberation Road

Liberation Road is "basically a Chinese-directed movement," Loudon said. It is a socialist organization, drawing from Marxist ideology, "with a clear focus on building the resistance to Trump," its website said.



Liberation Road, whose people "burnt Ferguson, Missouri, to the ground in 2014," split from FRSO several years ago over the issue of whether to work with the Democratic Party "and it is the parent body of Black Lives Matter [BLM]," Loudon said.



Some media outlets denied the allegation about links of the Black Future Labs to the Chinese Communist regime because there are two organizations named "Chinese Progressive Association," one in San Francisco and one in Boston. The Black Future Labs works with only the Chinese Progressive Association in San Francisco, which is a different entity than its namesake in Boston, according to the New York Times.



However, both organizations named Chinese Progressive Association (CPA) "are controlled by Liberation Road," Loudon said. "Both of them are controlled by Maoist communists who have been a part of the same groups for 50 years now. They might be organizationally autonomous, but they are part of the same movement."

I'm not surprised at all.

[Anonymous]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-ties-to-us-riots-exposed-by-trevor-loudon-2_3531626.html">[size=110]China Ties to US Riots Exposed by 30 year researcher of  radical and terrorist groups and their covert influence on mainstream politics [/size]



Most of the riots that racked the United States within the last few months were organized by two socialist organizations that have close ties with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), said Trevor Loudon, author, and filmmaker, who has been researching radical and terrorist groups and their covert influence on mainstream politics for more than 30 years.



The Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO) based out of Minneapolis, an openly pro-CCP organization, and Bay Area-based Liberation Road, with very close ties to the Chinese consulate there and the Chinese Progressive Association (CPA), are behind the recent riots, Loudon said in a recent interview on Epoch Times' Crossroads program.



Liberation Road

Liberation Road is "basically a Chinese-directed movement," Loudon said. It is a socialist organization, drawing from Marxist ideology, "with a clear focus on building the resistance to Trump," its website said.



Liberation Road, whose people "burnt Ferguson, Missouri, to the ground in 2014," split from FRSO several years ago over the issue of whether to work with the Democratic Party "and it is the parent body of Black Lives Matter [BLM]," Loudon said.



Some media outlets denied the allegation about links of the Black Future Labs to the Chinese Communist regime because there are two organizations named "Chinese Progressive Association," one in San Francisco and one in Boston. The Black Future Labs works with only the Chinese Progressive Association in San Francisco, which is a different entity than its namesake in Boston, according to the New York Times.



However, both organizations named Chinese Progressive Association (CPA) "are controlled by Liberation Road," Loudon said. "Both of them are controlled by Maoist communists who have been a part of the same groups for 50 years now. They might be organizationally autonomous, but they are part of the same movement."

I suspected this and now we have the smoking gun.

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Chinese City Locks Down Neighborhoods, Shuts Hospitals Amid Growing CCP Virus Outbreak



After a CCP virus outbreak in Qingdao city, eastern China, authorities are scrambling to contain infections by locking down neighborhoods and requiring COVID-19 testing for all residents.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-city-locks-down-neighborhoods-shuts-down-hospitals-amid-growing-ccp-virus-outbreak_3536401.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-13">https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-c ... 2020-10-13">https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-city-locks-down-neighborhoods-shuts-down-hospitals-amid-growing-ccp-virus-outbreak_3536401.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-13

[Anonymous]

No surprises here. China lied or covered up everything about COVID-19.



Exclusive: China Had COVID-Like Patients Months Before Official Timeline

Internal CCP documents show patients in Wuhan had symptoms as early as September 2019, but authorities didn't disclose to the world



A series of leaked documents shows that patients in China with symptoms similar to COVID-19 were hospitalized months before the regime's official timeline, throwing into question when exactly the CCP virus began spreading in Wuhan, China's epidemic ground zero.



At least one patient started experiencing COVID-19-like symptoms in September 2019, according to hospital data obtained by The Epoch Times from a trusted source who has access to government documents. Dozens more were hospitalized over the following month.



Wuhan hospitals also reported several deaths in October 2019 due to severe pneumonia, lung infections, and other symptoms similar to COVID-19 patients.



The city's health commission only publicly announced an outbreak of a novel form of pneumonia on Dec. 31, 2019—after social media posts by whistleblower doctors had gone viral.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw-covid-19-like-patients-months-before-official-timeline-internal-documents_3537965.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw ... 2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw-covid-19-like-patients-months-before-official-timeline-internal-documents_3537965.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14

[Anonymous]

No surprises here. China lied or covered up everything about COVID-19.



Exclusive: China Had COVID-Like Patients Months Before Official Timeline

Internal CCP documents show patients in Wuhan had symptoms as early as September 2019, but authorities didn't disclose to the world



A series of leaked documents shows that patients in China with symptoms similar to COVID-19 were hospitalized months before the regime's official timeline, throwing into question when exactly the CCP virus began spreading in Wuhan, China's epidemic ground zero.



At least one patient started experiencing COVID-19-like symptoms in September 2019, according to hospital data obtained by The Epoch Times from a trusted source who has access to government documents. Dozens more were hospitalized over the following month.



Wuhan hospitals also reported several deaths in October 2019 due to severe pneumonia, lung infections, and other symptoms similar to COVID-19 patients.



The city's health commission only publicly announced an outbreak of a novel form of pneumonia on Dec. 31, 2019—after social media posts by whistleblower doctors had gone viral.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw-covid-19-like-patients-months-before-official-timeline-internal-documents_3537965.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw ... 2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw-covid-19-like-patients-months-before-official-timeline-internal-documents_3537965.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14

We had an outbreak of what we thought was the flu at our Toronto terminal in November 2019. At the time, they thought it was the flu even though two of the employees who got sick got a flu shot. Some of the symptoms included inability to smell, but they thought it was clogged nasal passages. Most people at CP now think it was a COVID outbreak.  All the employees were under fifty and all made a total recovery.

[Anonymous]

No surprises here. China lied or covered up everything about COVID-19.



Exclusive: China Had COVID-Like Patients Months Before Official Timeline

Internal CCP documents show patients in Wuhan had symptoms as early as September 2019, but authorities didn't disclose to the world



A series of leaked documents shows that patients in China with symptoms similar to COVID-19 were hospitalized months before the regime's official timeline, throwing into question when exactly the CCP virus began spreading in Wuhan, China's epidemic ground zero.



At least one patient started experiencing COVID-19-like symptoms in September 2019, according to hospital data obtained by The Epoch Times from a trusted source who has access to government documents. Dozens more were hospitalized over the following month.



Wuhan hospitals also reported several deaths in October 2019 due to severe pneumonia, lung infections, and other symptoms similar to COVID-19 patients.



The city's health commission only publicly announced an outbreak of a novel form of pneumonia on Dec. 31, 2019—after social media posts by whistleblower doctors had gone viral.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw-covid-19-like-patients-months-before-official-timeline-internal-documents_3537965.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw ... 2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw-covid-19-like-patients-months-before-official-timeline-internal-documents_3537965.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14

We had an outbreak of what we thought was the flu at our Toronto terminal in November 2019. At the time, they thought it was the flu even though two of the employees who got sick got a flu shot. Some of the symptoms included inability to smell, but they thought it was clogged nasal passages. Most people at CP now think it was a COVID outbreak.  All the employees were under fifty and all made a total recovery.

I guess they didn't get antibodies testing?

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We had an outbreak of what we thought was the flu at our Toronto terminal in November 2019. At the time, they thought it was the flu even though two of the employees who got sick got a flu shot. Some of the symptoms included inability to smell, but they thought it was clogged nasal passages. Most people at CP now think it was a COVID outbreak. All the employees were under fifty and all made a total recovery.

Could be. I'm still not sure my pneumonia in mid February was not "possibly" covid



Point. " even though two of the employees who got sick got a flu shot" in itself has no significance toward any view.



Flu shots have never been thought of as definite. Any pharmacist will merely say they:

1. reduce chances of getting flu

2. often reduce symptoms of those who do contract it

and that's the best we get from them



Similarly, I had pneumonia shot and was told similar to the above before contracting pneumonia



Also what Fash said, I and my doc have asked for but not gotten an antibody test .. Several months ago there was big talk that Canada was moving rapidly toward testing, but crickets since

[Anonymous]

Could be. I'm still not sure my pneumonia in mid February was not "possibly" covid



Point. " even though two of the employees who got sick got a flu shot" in itself has no significance toward any view.



Flu shots have never been thought of as definite. Any pharmacist will merely say they:

1. reduce chances of getting flu

2. often reduce symptoms of those who do contract it

and that's the best we get from them



Similarly, I had pneumonia shot and was told similar to the above before contracting pneumonia

I get a flu shot every year..



The pharmacists say it's effective between sixty and seventy per cent of the time.

[cc]

right .. which is why I mentioned having had flu shots is not an argument that it is not the flu .. which does not rule out possible   covid, it's just not an argument supporting covid



It would not surprise me if covid was around earlier than we we told .. although one would have thought that would have spread like wildfire as we knew nothing about prevention or control then

[Anonymous]

No surprises here. China lied or covered up everything about COVID-19.



Exclusive: China Had COVID-Like Patients Months Before Official Timeline

Internal CCP documents show patients in Wuhan had symptoms as early as September 2019, but authorities didn't disclose to the world



A series of leaked documents shows that patients in China with symptoms similar to COVID-19 were hospitalized months before the regime's official timeline, throwing into question when exactly the CCP virus began spreading in Wuhan, China's epidemic ground zero.



At least one patient started experiencing COVID-19-like symptoms in September 2019, according to hospital data obtained by The Epoch Times from a trusted source who has access to government documents. Dozens more were hospitalized over the following month.



Wuhan hospitals also reported several deaths in October 2019 due to severe pneumonia, lung infections, and other symptoms similar to COVID-19 patients.



The city's health commission only publicly announced an outbreak of a novel form of pneumonia on Dec. 31, 2019—after social media posts by whistleblower doctors had gone viral.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw-covid-19-like-patients-months-before-official-timeline-internal-documents_3537965.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw ... 2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-saw-covid-19-like-patients-months-before-official-timeline-internal-documents_3537965.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14

We had an outbreak of what we thought was the flu at our Toronto terminal in November 2019. At the time, they thought it was the flu even though two of the employees who got sick got a flu shot. Some of the symptoms included inability to smell, but they thought it was clogged nasal passages. Most people at CP now think it was a COVID outbreak.  All the employees were under fifty and all made a total recovery.

I guess they didn't get antibodies testing?

No, they didn't. I don't know what is happening in Ontario. I remember seoulbro saying he wanted to get that test, but couldn't.