We can't eradicate COVID, and we'd bankrupt ourselves trying

[Anonymous]

What are we doing about the pandemic? It's not exactly a trick question. But it's tricky because pace Yogi Berra, unless you know what you're trying to do, you will probably do something else.



At one point we knew. We were trying to contain then eradicate SARS-CoV-2 because we thought it was as deadly as it was contagious, including "flattening the curve" to protect the health system from its initial virulent onset. But it does not make sense to continue to act in this manner once we realize it is quite contagious but not as lethal as originally feared.



Would anyone really spend half the Gross National Product to wipe out the last vestige of shoplifting, or every minor skin rash?" Would we spend half of GDP to wipe out the last vestige of COVID-19? Perhaps, if we thought the alternative was to see one in 20 of us die, vital services collapse etc. We might also tolerate sidelining Parliament, mass unemployment, and the prime minister handing out half a billion dollars a day in unexamined spending while telling bureaucrats to ignore fraud despite a deficit likely to exceed $300 billion and push borrowing above total revenue.



When we thought this illness combined the contagiousness of the common cold with the consequences of the original 2002-04 SARS, such conduct made sense. Not any more. But we're having trouble shaking off the mindset.



Tuesday's Post had the usual "experts say" we're reopening too fast, without a detailed plan, without the "outbreak under control." And "to open up effectively, you need to know you can detect and squash any new cluster before they can explode."



You would if it was the Plague, Black, Justinian or otherwise. Maybe even the Spanish flu. But it's not. It's nowhere close.



Four out of five COVID-19 deaths have been linked to seniors' homes. Thus the most important thing this number tells us is COVID-19 poses little threat to people who are neither old nor sick. So little that when it first got into the hospitals, nobody noticed.



Our dangerous obsession with perfect safety has us still talking of building a wall, keeping it out, beating it in two years. What would it take to keep out flu? Beat the common cold in two years?



So what should we be trying to do about SARS-CoV-2? Not make sure nobody ever dies of it. Not flatten the curve to protect the health system. We already did, postponing many other needed procedures to brace for a tsunami that wasn't coming.



I'd like to know how "experts say" we're going to meet the next pandemic, natural or not, if we've destroyed the economy, public finances and our health in a foolish attempt to eradicate this one totally.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-robson-we-cant-eradicate-covid-and-wed-bankrupt-ourselves-trying">https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-r ... ves-trying">https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-robson-we-cant-eradicate-covid-and-wed-bankrupt-ourselves-trying



Would we spend half of GDP to wipe out the last vestige of COVID-19? Perhaps, if we thought the alternative was to see one in 20 of us die.

[Anonymous]

Lockdowns and shutting down businesses, schools, public works was imposed on us because they said our hospitals would be overwhelmed..



That never happened, so they moved the goal posts.

[Anonymous]

Lockdowns and shutting down businesses, schools, public works was imposed on us because they said our hospitals would be overwhelmed..



That never happened, so they moved the goal posts.

Exactly. It is very contagious like a cold, but it is not even to as lethal as SARS was. But, we continue to inflict massive damage on our nations for something reserved for a plague, but is not a plague.

[Anonymous]

My boy and his girlfriend have a lot to say about all of this. It is pretty frickin extreme what we are doing. Like they were trying to contain a contagious form of cancer.

[Anonymous]

We have really lost our heads haven't we.

[Anonymous]

My boy and his girlfriend have a lot to say about all of this. It is pretty frickin extreme what we are doing. Like they were trying to contain a contagious form of cancer.

It made sense at first, because we didn't know much about it.

[deadskinmask]

My boy and his girlfriend have a lot to say about all of this. It is pretty frickin extreme what we are doing. Like they were trying to contain a contagious form of cancer.

It made sense at first, because we didn't know much about it.

i knew alot about it.... i read dr faucci's article in the new england journal of medicine.... its a flu with a mortality rate of 0.1%.... and as i've said before this isn't about the disease.... this is about creating a fear of a disease.... this is gonna be the cornerstone for every policy they couldn't usher in under the confines of the constitution....

[Anonymous]

My boy and his girlfriend have a lot to say about all of this. It is pretty frickin extreme what we are doing. Like they were trying to contain a contagious form of cancer.

It made sense at first, because we didn't know much about it.

i knew alot about it.... i read dr faucci's article in the new england journal of medicine.... its a flu with a mortality rate of 0.1%.... and as i've said before this isn't about the disease.... this is about creating a fear of a disease.... this is gonna be the cornerstone for every policy they couldn't usher in under the confines of the constitution....

It set a dangerous precedent.

[deadskinmask]

My boy and his girlfriend have a lot to say about all of this. It is pretty frickin extreme what we are doing. Like they were trying to contain a contagious form of cancer.

It made sense at first, because we didn't know much about it.

i knew alot about it.... i read dr faucci's article in the new england journal of medicine.... its a flu with a mortality rate of 0.1%.... and as i've said before this isn't about the disease.... this is about creating a fear of a disease.... this is gonna be the cornerstone for every policy they couldn't usher in under the confines of the constitution....

It set a dangerous precedent.

no doubt.... but its not a precedent.... the government has stripped away our rights.... bottom line.... now i know alot of ppl will say 'temporarily'.... lol.... ok.... but honestly when has a government ever 'given anything back'.... yeah....

[Anonymous]

My boy and his girlfriend have a lot to say about all of this. It is pretty frickin extreme what we are doing. Like they were trying to contain a contagious form of cancer.

It made sense at first, because we didn't know much about it.

i knew alot about it.... i read dr faucci's article in the new england journal of medicine.... its a flu with a mortality rate of 0.1%.... and as i've said before this isn't about the disease.... this is about creating a fear of a disease.... this is gonna be the cornerstone for every policy they couldn't usher in under the confines of the constitution....

Can you post a link to Dr Fauci's article.

[deadskinmask]

an you post a link to Dr Fauci's article.

all my links are down and replaced with fear porn.... i'll look through my earlier posts elsewhere and find it.... the article is called Navigating The Uncharted....

[Anonymous]

an you post a link to Dr Fauci's article.

all my links are down and replaced with fear porn.... i'll look through my earlier posts elsewhere and find it.... the article is called Navigating The Uncharted....

Thank you. I am Velvet by the way. ac_hithere

[deadskinmask]

an you post a link to Dr Fauci's article.

all my links are down and replaced with fear porn.... i'll look through my earlier posts elsewhere and find it.... the article is called Navigating The Uncharted....

Thank you. I am Velvet by the way. ac_hithere

you're welcome.... call me skinz.... its easier to type....

[Anonymous]

What are we doing about the pandemic? It's not exactly a trick question. But it's tricky because pace Yogi Berra, unless you know what you're trying to do, you will probably do something else.



At one point we knew. We were trying to contain then eradicate SARS-CoV-2 because we thought it was as deadly as it was contagious, including "flattening the curve" to protect the health system from its initial virulent onset. But it does not make sense to continue to act in this manner once we realize it is quite contagious but not as lethal as originally feared.



Would anyone really spend half the Gross National Product to wipe out the last vestige of shoplifting, or every minor skin rash?" Would we spend half of GDP to wipe out the last vestige of COVID-19? Perhaps, if we thought the alternative was to see one in 20 of us die, vital services collapse etc. We might also tolerate sidelining Parliament, mass unemployment, and the prime minister handing out half a billion dollars a day in unexamined spending while telling bureaucrats to ignore fraud despite a deficit likely to exceed $300 billion and push borrowing above total revenue.



When we thought this illness combined the contagiousness of the common cold with the consequences of the original 2002-04 SARS, such conduct made sense. Not any more. But we're having trouble shaking off the mindset.



Tuesday's Post had the usual "experts say" we're reopening too fast, without a detailed plan, without the "outbreak under control." And "to open up effectively, you need to know you can detect and squash any new cluster before they can explode."



You would if it was the Plague, Black, Justinian or otherwise. Maybe even the Spanish flu. But it's not. It's nowhere close.



Four out of five COVID-19 deaths have been linked to seniors' homes. Thus the most important thing this number tells us is COVID-19 poses little threat to people who are neither old nor sick. So little that when it first got into the hospitals, nobody noticed.



Our dangerous obsession with perfect safety has us still talking of building a wall, keeping it out, beating it in two years. What would it take to keep out flu? Beat the common cold in two years?



So what should we be trying to do about SARS-CoV-2? Not make sure nobody ever dies of it. Not flatten the curve to protect the health system. We already did, postponing many other needed procedures to brace for a tsunami that wasn't coming.



I'd like to know how "experts say" we're going to meet the next pandemic, natural or not, if we've destroyed the economy, public finances and our health in a foolish attempt to eradicate this one totally.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-robson-we-cant-eradicate-covid-and-wed-bankrupt-ourselves-trying">https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-r ... ves-trying">https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-robson-we-cant-eradicate-covid-and-wed-bankrupt-ourselves-trying



Would we spend half of GDP to wipe out the last vestige of COVID-19? Perhaps, if we thought the alternative was to see one in 20 of us die.

Societal collapse as a response to the equivalent of a flu bug. This is the exact point when the West lost it's collective fucking mind.

[deadskinmask]

Can you post a link to Dr Fauci's article

here ya go.... this was published in february....



https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387">https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387



i'd like to point out that bill gates has the patent for corona virus.... how could someone have a patent for something if it wasn't manufactured and why would you patent anything if you didn't have atleast a basic understanding of its capabilities....