Coronavirus Facts

[Anonymous]

Experts Disgraced Themselves By Prioritizing Woke Politics Over Public Health



https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/13/public-health-experts-coronavirus-james-pinkerton/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=kfF8o_VZFx2N3T0IBUDhs_wEl5Q9HocvDE_Kddy5">https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/13/publ ... cvDE_Kddy5">https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/13/public-health-experts-coronavirus-james-pinkerton/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=kfF8o_VZFx2N3T0IBUDhs_wEl5Q9HocvDE_Kddy5



On June 4, Politico — not exactly a hotbed of right-wingers — noted the new emphasis, headlining its story, "Suddenly, Public Health Officials Say Social Justice Matters More Than Social Distance." As the article put it, the new party line is "confounding to many who spent the spring strictly isolated on the advice of health officials, only to hear that the need might not be so absolute after all."



And yes, that reminds me — as you might recall as well — that in between the preoccupation with the "r" word, racism, there was the preoccupation of the "l" word, lockdown. Yes, from February to late May, Big Public Health had a prescription for the rest of us: put the economy in a coma.



It took a while to figure out that shutting down the jobs of working people wasn't such a good idea, when few of them were jeopardized by the virus. At the same time, moving COVID-19 carriers out of hospitals and into nursing homes was a really bad idea — because the elderly were, and are, highly jeopardized. That's why 80% of COVID-19 deaths have been among those 65 and older.



Yet as we all know, the public-health authorities and the politicians who have listened to them chose to dig in their heels, sticking with an obviously catastrophic lockdown policy. Why? Perhaps because the "experts" were stubbornly attached to their mental paradigm. Or perhaps because they just don't care much about what happens to Middle America — and maybe they even take delight in sticking it to those who might be "racist."



In fact, lockdown was the public-health party-line until the May 25 death of George Floyd. Then, as protesters — joined, of course, by rioters and looters — filled the streets, the health "experts" cheered them on, lockdown be damned.



Osagie K. Obasogie, a bioethicist at the University of California at Berkeley, wrote that the real public-health problem is the "police violence pandemic."



For perspective on that claim, we might note that in 2019, 235 black Americans were shot to death by the police, as well as 769 of other races. Even those death totals, put together, do not qualify as a "pandemic." (For further perspective, we might note in 2018, the latest year for which data are available, 7,407 black people were murdered, as part of 14,123 Americans overall.)

[Anonymous]

This virus has been politicized, especially South of the border.

[Berry Sweet]

What's the point of a vaccine? I'm starting to question this.  They have flu shots every year (I never get one and never get sick) there are people who get these flu shots and continuously get sick from it.



If they still don't know scientifically much about this virus, what's the point?  It seems like no one knows anything.

[Anonymous]

What's the point of a vaccine? I'm starting to question this.  They have flu shots every year (I never get one and never get sick) there are people who get these flu shots and continuously get sick from it.



If they still don't know scientifically much about this virus, what's the point?  It seems like no one knows anything.

There are different types of influenza. They can't vaccinate for all of them. There is one type of COVID. There are many vaccines being developed as I type.

[Anonymous]

What's the point of a vaccine? I'm starting to question this.  They have flu shots every year (I never get one and never get sick) there are people who get these flu shots and continuously get sick from it.



If they still don't know scientifically much about this virus, what's the point?  It seems like no one knows anything.

Immunity....you get that by vaccination or by catching it and recovering..



And there are many vaccine trials, some entering the third phase..



Still, a vaccine is unlikely before mid spring 2021.

[Anonymous]

This is disheartening.



This City Is Experiencing an "Extremely Severe" Second Wave of Coronavirus



The spike represents the most significant surge in China since February, coming after a 56 consecutive day stretch without a new locally reported transmitted case of the novel coronavirus. According to reports, 106 new cases have been reported in Beijing over the past five days.



Chinese state media took to the airwaves with a theory that Beijing's second wave is the result of a mutated version of the virus brought back to China from abroad. "It clearly indicates the virus strain is different from what it was two months ago," Wu Zunyou, chief epidemiologist at the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, told state broadcaster CGTN 0n June 16. "The virus strain is the major epidemic strain in European countries. So it is from outside China brought to Beijing."

https://bestlifeonline.com/beijing-second-wave-coronavirus/">https://bestlifeonline.com/beijing-seco ... ronavirus/">https://bestlifeonline.com/beijing-second-wave-coronavirus/

[Anonymous]

You cannot believe anything out of China.

[Anonymous]

You cannot believe anything out of China.

I never did.

[Anonymous]

This is disheartening.



This City Is Experiencing an "Extremely Severe" Second Wave of Coronavirus



The spike represents the most significant surge in China since February, coming after a 56 consecutive day stretch without a new locally reported transmitted case of the novel coronavirus. According to reports, 106 new cases have been reported in Beijing over the past five days.



Chinese state media took to the airwaves with a theory that Beijing's second wave is the result of a mutated version of the virus brought back to China from abroad. "It clearly indicates the virus strain is different from what it was two months ago," Wu Zunyou, chief epidemiologist at the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, told state broadcaster CGTN 0n June 16. "The virus strain is the major epidemic strain in European countries. So it is from outside China brought to Beijing."

https://bestlifeonline.com/beijing-second-wave-coronavirus/">https://bestlifeonline.com/beijing-seco ... ronavirus/">https://bestlifeonline.com/beijing-second-wave-coronavirus/

It originated in China despite China's plea of not guilty.

[Anonymous]

This study seems to confirm what we've been told.



Under-20s half as likely to contract coronavirus: study



People under the age of 20 are half as likely to contract COVID-19 than the rest of the population, according to new modeling released on Tuesday that suggests four out of five infected young people show no symptoms.



The team estimated that under-20s are at half the risk of COVID-19 infection than over-20s.



They also found a wide variation in symptomatic cases linked to age: only 21 percent of those aged 10 to 19 were likely to show symptoms compared with 69 percent of over-70s.



The researchers then simulated COVID-19 outbreaks in 146 capital cities around the world to see what effect school closures had on the spread of the disease.



Unlike with influenza outbreaks, where transmission was modeled to be sharply curtailed if schools were closed, the authors found the measure had little effect on stopping the novel coronavirus spreading.

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[Anonymous]

This study seems to confirm what we've been told.



Under-20s half as likely to contract coronavirus: study



People under the age of 20 are half as likely to contract COVID-19 than the rest of the population, according to new modeling released on Tuesday that suggests four out of five infected young people show no symptoms.



The team estimated that under-20s are at half the risk of COVID-19 infection than over-20s.



They also found a wide variation in symptomatic cases linked to age: only 21 percent of those aged 10 to 19 were likely to show symptoms compared with 69 percent of over-70s.



The researchers then simulated COVID-19 outbreaks in 146 capital cities around the world to see what effect school closures had on the spread of the disease.



Unlike with influenza outbreaks, where transmission was modeled to be sharply curtailed if schools were closed, the authors found the measure had little effect on stopping the novel coronavirus spreading.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-under-20s-coronavirus.html">https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06- ... virus.html">https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-under-20s-coronavirus.html

It's time to open the schools.

[Anonymous]

This study seems to confirm what we've been told.



Under-20s half as likely to contract coronavirus: study



People under the age of 20 are half as likely to contract COVID-19 than the rest of the population, according to new modeling released on Tuesday that suggests four out of five infected young people show no symptoms.



The team estimated that under-20s are at half the risk of COVID-19 infection than over-20s.



They also found a wide variation in symptomatic cases linked to age: only 21 percent of those aged 10 to 19 were likely to show symptoms compared with 69 percent of over-70s.



The researchers then simulated COVID-19 outbreaks in 146 capital cities around the world to see what effect school closures had on the spread of the disease.



Unlike with influenza outbreaks, where transmission was modeled to be sharply curtailed if schools were closed, the authors found the measure had little effect on stopping the novel coronavirus spreading.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-under-20s-coronavirus.html">https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06- ... virus.html">https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-under-20s-coronavirus.html

The kids have to get back to school in the fall. That is important.

[Oak]

"Just 6.1% of the population of Sweden had developed coronavirus antibodies by late May, a lower measure than some of its health agency's earlier models had predicted.



Uhm, fail.  All those deaths for no real protection.  Herd immunity is rare.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-herd-immunity-hopes-fading-130220788.html">https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-herd ... 20788.html">https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-herd-immunity-hopes-fading-130220788.html

[cc]

The fellow who initiated their plan a few days ago said things did not work as he thought they would .. and that he would do it quite differently if he had it to do again



I have been baffled with the use of the "herd" term bandied about like as though it meant something ... always sounded real hokey to me .. what it really means is when "everyone" has had it  ... which they are not even close to ... and if immunity is lasting,  which has not been established



I've been charting Sweden and some states and provinces ... last week Sweden started to climb rapidly again and as of 4 days ago disappeared from the World Statistics  completely .. the "today" numbers that is (new cases, new deaths, active cases etc)  .. not a good sign

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/">https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ .. when it disappeared it had the highest death rate per case and highest per million people of the 10 or so I track. (Canada, a bit better than Sweden, has a not great ratio I'll add .. dunno why)

Note: That site empties today data around supper time here, and fills in next day as figures come in



Another item, science still has not established immunity strength &  duration and a cpl of small studies didn't look like very long lasting (a catastrophe for the world if proven out). I just posted a small study on that today on another thread.

If they prove true, it's not good

[Anonymous]

"Just 6.1% of the population of Sweden had developed coronavirus antibodies by late May, a lower measure than some of its health agency's earlier models had predicted.



Uhm, fail.  All those deaths for no real protection.  Herd immunity is rare.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-herd-immunity-hopes-fading-130220788.html">https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-herd ... 20788.html">https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-herd-immunity-hopes-fading-130220788.html

You're cherry picking data. Belarus has never had a lock down, has few if any restrictions and yet has just 351 deaths from COVID. The Chinese province of Taiwan took a different approach than Western countries and has just 7 deaths to coronavirus.



We do know that 53,000 surgeries and treatments were postponed indefinitely in our largest province, Ontario that we will never know how deaths it caused. That's just one province.



We also know that lock downs will cause hundreds of thousands of deaths around the world due to famine alone.



Sweden has the same problem as Canada. Both countries have disproportionate numbers of deaths in senior's care facilities. Both countries should have locked down it's senior's care facilities. Locking down healthy populations for a virus that 99% recover from is the definition of insane. The world is paying the price for such madness.