The long term cost of lock downs

[Anonymous]

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul declares 'disaster emergency' in New York until mid-January over omicron despite no cases of new variant in the US yet.

We don't need this kind of panic....not yet anyway.

[Anonymous]

China's domestic air traffic, once the world's envy after a fast rebound during the pandemic, is faltering due to a zero-COVID policy that has led to tighter travel rules in Beijing and weaker consumer confidence after repeated small outbreaks.



The outlook for the fourth quarter, normally a popular time for southerners to head north for winter breaks and northerners to head south for warmer weather, is dimming due to COVID-19 related disruptions at a time when international traffic is negligible.

[Anonymous]

Tyranny runs amok in Australia.



Supermarkets in the Australian state of Queensland will have the option to exclude unvaccinated people from entering under new vaccine rules.



Starting on Dec. 17, anyone who enters a café, restaurant, bar, theater, museum, library, stadium, or similar venues will have to show proof they are fully vaccinated for COVID-19. The rules, however, are not mandatory for supermarkets and grocery stores, although Australian officials said every business—including supermarkets, groceries, and other essential businesses—has the option to impose a mandate.

[Bricktop]

It's getting worse here.



Interstate travel has opened up, and the inevitable spotfires of infected people have emerged after returning from other States.



They returned positive tests at the airport. They have been quarantined AT THEIR EXPENSE ($6K) for 14 days, despite the fact that they have been immunised.



As I and many others have declared since this huge impetus to vaccinate people began with the promise of stopping the spread, this was all a lie. Vaccinations benefit the individual, especially the vulnerable, but it does NOT stop infections between people. Thus, the entire strategy of apartheid and mandatory passports is based on a falsehood.



If you are vaccinated, you're fine. You may contract the virus and spread it to others, but of they are vaccinated they are fine. If someone unvaccinated contracts the virus and becomes critically ill, its the choice they made. Just like every other choice we make as humans.



People are not stupid. They know the risk. Those in the high risk groups are vaccinated. Those in low risk groups can afford to ignore it.

[Frood]

It's getting worse here.



Interstate travel has opened up, and the inevitable spotfires of infected people have emerged after returning from other States.



They returned positive tests at the airport. They have been quarantined AT THEIR EXPENSE ($6K) for 14 days, despite the fact that they have been immunised.



As I and many others have declared since this huge impetus to vaccinate people began with the promise of stopping the spread, this was all a lie. Vaccinations benefit the individual, especially the vulnerable, but it does NOT stop infections between people. Thus, the entire strategy of apartheid and mandatory passports is based on a falsehood.



If you are vaccinated, you're fine. You may contract the virus and spread it to others, but of they are vaccinated they are fine. If someone unvaccinated contracts the virus and becomes critically ill, its the choice they made. Just like every other choice we make as humans.



People are not stupid. They know the risk. Those in the high risk groups are vaccinated. Those in low risk groups can afford to ignore it.

Agreed....



....and if it's found out or later agreed that these jabs were a really bad idea for the species, the jabbed will have to wear it for going along with it. The pure bloods never tried to mandate or coerce anybody. We won't be the scapegoats like we've been painted now.

[cc]

..... stopping the spread, this was all a lie. Vaccinations benefit the individual, especially the vulnerable,



but it does NOT stop infections between people.



Thus, the entire strategy of apartheid and mandatory passports is based on a falsehood.

You keep blabbering



Now prove it does not stop some or even most infection

[Frood]

Water is wet, fire is hot.... prove otherwise.

[cc]

An admission that you cannot ?



Sounds like it



However it was for Brick, not a smartass know nothing who can prove nothing whatsoever

[Frood]

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[Frood]

An admission that you cannot ?



Sounds like it



However it was for Brick, not the smartass know nothing

Prove it!



 ac_toofunny

[cc]

Fail!! - try a meme or video



Issue is

..... stopping the spread, this was all a lie. Vaccinations benefit the individual, especially the vulnerable,



but it does NOT stop infections between people.



Thus, the entire strategy of apartheid and mandatory passports is based on a falsehood.

 Prove it does not stop many or most

[Frood]

:MG_216:

[Bricktop]

Fail!! - try a meme or video



Issue is

..... stopping the spread, this was all a lie. Vaccinations benefit the individual, especially the vulnerable,



but it does NOT stop infections between people.



Thus, the entire strategy of apartheid and mandatory passports is based on a falsehood.

 Prove it does not stop many or most

I can't. I am not qualified.



But...how about this?



"Although preventing severe disease and deaths remains the primary public health goal in the acute phase of the pandemic, and is still being achieved by available COVID-19 vaccines despite the emergence of the delta variant, addressing SARS-CoV-2 transmission is a crucial additional consideration. Reducing transmission is necessary to reduce virus circulation, reach herd immunity and end this tragic pandemic. This study confirms that COVID-19 vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and also accelerates viral clearance in the context of the delta variant. However, this study unfortunately also highlights that the vaccine effect on reducing transmission is minimal in the context of delta variant circulation."



From some radical rag called The Lancet. Apparently it's used as an authoritative resource for doctors.



https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 3/fulltext">https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00690-3/fulltext[/url]



Will that be all?

[Frood]

If cc insists on repeatedly editing her posts after people reply, I'll just scrollcap the lot each time and post it up alongside.

[cc]

Just as I thot .. That's old stuff, known from just after the gitgo. It does not stop transmission from any infected vaccinated person  .. agreed



- it does however, as clearly stated in your quote,  "This study confirms that COVID-19 vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and also accelerates viral clearance in the context of the delta variant."  ... thus it clearly does stop (often & most often) infections to a vaccinated person ... thereby greatly reducing the number of infected people around  .. thus does reduce spread (The less who are infected, the less who will become infected)



You words were misleading, although not intentionally as they can be taken 2 ways.



Now, based on your own submission, would you please stop saying vaccines do NOT stop infections between people because they so often do. ( "reduces the risk of delta variant infection" )





The lancet (having had to retract many items on this virus already) needs to re-think "However, this study unfortunately also highlights that the vaccine effect on reducing transmission is minimal in the context of delta variant circulation.""

This makes no sense / is ludicrous especially while acknowledging vaccine "reduces the risk of delta variant infection" and the great majority are vaccinated ffs. (They are trying to have it both ways on the very same issue)

Our country is over 90% in fact , so  "reduces the risk of delta variant infection" plays a large role in the number getting infected.