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The long term cost of lock downs

Started by Anonymous, June 13, 2020, 02:51:31 PM

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Breakfall

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Canadians aren't suggesting lockdowns surely?

Not yet Bonkerfist, but our prime minister continues to ignore the science and refuses to lift mask, and vaccine mandates for international travel to and from this country.


He's just a child really! Daddy's little cupcake. This is one of the sides of politics that really sucks!

Anonymous

I knew it.



There is no remorse at the CDC. Far from it. The model of virus control deployed over the last 27 months is now part of normal operations. It wants it institutionalized.



The bureaucracy has now codified this into a new online tool that instructs cities and states precisely of what they are supposed to do given a certain level of community spread. The new tool doesn't say lockdowns as such but the entire model of containment via masks and distancing is baked in, and it can be easily expanded at will.



To understand how absurd this is, consider that as of this writing, major parts of Southern Florida are supposed to be masked up, according to the map provided by the CDC, because COVID testing reveals high community spread.



Hardly anyone in Florida has worn a mask since 2020. The very notion is a joke there. However, what happens to the other states and what happens when or if political control of Florida changes to a pro-lockdown party?

https://www.theepochtimes.com/cdc-wants-its-covid-regime-made-permanent_4526246.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe-ai&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-06-12-ai-26&est=IL2MN2UxwhZ1bbWn7O%2FBaPoo4%2Bw%2BrxxIKEMw7Dc6K4LZoWUAhZZMGy%2Fbw2PSxaPufQ%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/cdc-wants ... PufQ%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/cdc-wants-its-covid-regime-made-permanent_4526246.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe-ai&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-06-12-ai-26&est=IL2MN2UxwhZ1bbWn7O%2FBaPoo4%2Bw%2BrxxIKEMw7Dc6K4LZoWUAhZZMGy%2Fbw2PSxaPufQ%3D%3D


Anonymous

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Canadians will not accept lockdowns again.

Anonymous

We made a mistake letting them do that to us the first time.

Anonymous

Canada's Coercive COVID-19 Mandates a 'Tragic Error': Former Ontario Chief Medical Officer

Canada's public health agency made a "tragic error" by grounding its COVID-19 response policies on coercion rather than persuasion, which was a key medical principle that had been thrown away during the pandemic, according to Dr. Richard Schabas, a former Ontario chief medical officer of health.



Schabas, who served as Ontario's top doctor from 1987 to 1997, said on June 24 that the public health principle that he practiced for decades was "based on persuasion, not coercion," and would hardly resort to legal powers in medical interventions.



He said that governments' COVID-19 vaccination mandates have backfired, as instead of meeting the intention of getting more people vaccinated, they have resulted in more people being turned away in the long run.



"By polarizing the issue, by making it a question of coercion, they've taken a group of people—many people who would have been persuaded to take the vaccine—and lock them down as being opposed to vaccines because they don't want to be forced," he said.



"I think that's a tragic error."

https://www.theepochtimes.com/canadas-coercive-covid-19-mandates-are-a-tragic-error-doctor_4556152.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe-ai&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-06-27-ai-25&est=5whNfaCl55fY7jXKz2ry5gq7G0e09S78%2BkWg1yZXlkG0nRQkDSNB%2BiRSU%2BidxE27Mw%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/canadas-c ... 27Mw%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/canadas-coercive-covid-19-mandates-are-a-tragic-error-doctor_4556152.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe-ai&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-06-27-ai-25&est=5whNfaCl55fY7jXKz2ry5gq7G0e09S78%2BkWg1yZXlkG0nRQkDSNB%2BiRSU%2BidxE27Mw%3D%3D

Anonymous

Vaccinologist and key contributor to mRNA technology Robert Malone testified to the Texas Senate committee on Health & Human Services on June 28, highlighting some administrative actions during the pandemic that he thinks were incorrectly handled and that should be taken into consideration for the future.



Malone is also a specialist in clinical research, medical affairs, regulatory affairs, project management proposal management, vaccines, and biodefense.



He said that prior to the Chinese Communist Party virus outbreak, the standard procedure would have been for the CDC (Center for Disease Control and Prevention), a federal agency, to give advice to state public health authorities in order to regulate medical practices.



"Up until the present, that's always been acknowledged. The role of the federal government is in consultation and support and advice. This approach has not been implemented during the COVID crisis ... during SARS-Cov2 COVID-19 outbreak, new policies and practices have been implemented," Malone testified in the hearing.



Malone has been involved with previous outbreak responses, including AIDS, anthrax, smallpox, and has worked on the smallpox vaccine, influenza vaccine, Ebola, Zika, and now SARS-Cov2.

Anonymous

Here we go again.



Canada resuming mandatory random COVID-19 testing for air travellers



OTTAWA - The federal government is bringing back mandatory random COVID-19 testing for air travellers coming into Canada, starting July 19.

A little more than a month after pausing the measure, the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) announced Thursday it will be re-implementing random testing for fully vaccinated air travellers arriving into the country at four major Canadian airports: Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto.



The testing will be conducted offsite, either at in-person appointments at "select testing provider locations and pharmacies," or using virtual appointments and self-swab tests. The ArriveCAN app will make the random selections, and travellers will receive an email within 15 minutes of filling out their customs declaration, detailing how they can arrange their tests.



Travellers will then have to organize how and where to complete their test with a designated test provider at no cost, whether that be making an in-person testing appointment or picking up a test to self swab during a virtual appointment.



The mandatory random testing only applies to fully-vaccinated travellers. Unless exempt, unvaccinated travellers will still have to test on days one and eight of their mandatory 14-day quarantine. If a fully-vaccinated traveller tests positive, a 10-day isolation is required, regardless of the province or territory in which the traveller resides.



Mandatory random testing continues at land border points of entry, the government added.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-resuming-mandatory-random-covid-19-testing-for-air-travellers-1.5987380">https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-re ... -1.5987380">https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-resuming-mandatory-random-covid-19-testing-for-air-travellers-1.5987380

Thiel

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=464137 time=1657849739 user_id=114
Here we go again.



Canada resuming mandatory random COVID-19 testing for air travellers



OTTAWA - The federal government is bringing back mandatory random COVID-19 testing for air travellers coming into Canada, starting July 19.

A little more than a month after pausing the measure, the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) announced Thursday it will be re-implementing random testing for fully vaccinated air travellers arriving into the country at four major Canadian airports: Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto.



The testing will be conducted offsite, either at in-person appointments at "select testing provider locations and pharmacies," or using virtual appointments and self-swab tests. The ArriveCAN app will make the random selections, and travellers will receive an email within 15 minutes of filling out their customs declaration, detailing how they can arrange their tests.



Travellers will then have to organize how and where to complete their test with a designated test provider at no cost, whether that be making an in-person testing appointment or picking up a test to self swab during a virtual appointment.



The mandatory random testing only applies to fully-vaccinated travellers. Unless exempt, unvaccinated travellers will still have to test on days one and eight of their mandatory 14-day quarantine. If a fully-vaccinated traveller tests positive, a 10-day isolation is required, regardless of the province or territory in which the traveller resides.



Mandatory random testing continues at land border points of entry, the government added.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-resuming-mandatory-random-covid-19-testing-for-air-travellers-1.5987380">https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-re ... -1.5987380">https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-resuming-mandatory-random-covid-19-testing-for-air-travellers-1.5987380

I heard. Cases are rising around the world again. We will never drop the ArriveCan app as long as Trudeau's Liberals are the government.
gay, conservative and proud

Thiel

The Canadian military is going to end vaccine mandates.
gay, conservative and proud

Frood

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The Canadian military is going to end vaccine mandates.


Too little, too late... their majority are already poisoned and nobody wants to join anyway. Why sign up with all the propaganda about Russia, Russia, Russia.... and then the mandates from earlier?



Fuck government and fuck government jobs.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Flip flopper Fauci does it again.



Fauci Claims He Never Recommended COVID-19 Lockdowns



White House medical adviser Anthony Fauci claimed Monday that he never recommended "locking anything down" when pressed about what he would do differently regarding the COVID-19 pandemic.



"First of all, I didn't recommend locking anything down," Fauci replied during an interview published by The Hill's "Rising" program on Monday, suggesting it had been a recommendation from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).



"Go back and look at my statements," he added, "that we need to do everything we can to keep the schools open and safe."



Although it's unclear exactly what Fauci meant by lockdowns, in October 2020, Fauci had publicly recommended that former President Donald Trump "shut the whole country down," although it's not clear what he meant as presidents don't have the authority to hand down sweeping lockdowns.



"When it became clear that we had community spread in the country ... I recommended to the president that we shut the country down," he said in an event with students at the College of the Holy Cross in October 2020.





If the United States didn't "shut down completely the way China did," then the spread of COVID-19 wouldn't be stopped, Fauci continued to say at the time. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) since early 2020 has pursued a "zero COVID" strategy that some analysts say is tantamount to economic suicide.



Closing Schools and Bars

In August 2020, Fauci said that public schools should remain closed across the country to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Fauci also publicly suggested multiple times in 2020 that bars and restaurants should remain closed, then arguing that there was a binary choice between opening schools or bars.



"You have a choice—either close the bars or close the schools. Because, if you have people congregating in bars, it's likely you're going to stay red," the longtime head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said in November 2020.



Also during the interview with The Hill, Fauci said there should have been "much more stringent restrictions" imposed on asymptomatic people in 2020.



"We know now, two and a half years later, that anywhere from 50 to 60 percent of the transmission occur from someone without symptoms, either someone who never will get symptoms or someone who is in the pre-symptomatic stage," he said.



It's not clear how Fauci came to this conclusion about asymptomatic spread. Physician Aaron Kheriaty wrote for the Brownstone Institute that "no respiratory virus in history" has been known to spread asymptomatically.



"Had we known that then, the insidious nature of spread in the community would have been much more of an alarm and there would have been much, much more stringent restrictions in the sense of very, very heavy, encouraging people to wear masks, physical distancing or what have you," added Fauci, who again called for mask-wearing in schools, workplaces, and "anything that brings people together in a closed environment" in some areas.

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