The long term cost of lock downs

[Anonymous]

By Lorne Gunter of Sun News Media



Lockdown not needed now



Do we really need to return to pandemic lockdowns?



Quebec has basically reintroduced a form of lockdowns in its largest cities.



In Montreal and Quebec City, it is now illegal to have people from another address in your home, unless they are a caregiver or tradesperson.



And if they are a plumber or electrician or furnace tech, there may only be one in your home at a time.



I guess any leak or short circuit that is a two-person job will have to wait until the second wave has passed.



Bars in those cities are closed for a month and restaurants are limited to takeout only.



The Ontario government is also talking about stepping back from its third-stage reopenings to something approaching its first, limited relaunch from last spring.



Yet remember, while infections have risen noticeably in the past two weeks, on a per capita basis neither province has outbreaks even half as bad as in March and April.



When leaders talk about "following the science," they also have to heed their own advice when the science shows the situation is much better — so far — than during the first wave.



For one thing, we know a lot more about the virus than we did six months ago. We're better at treating it, isolating those who have it and tracing people they've been in contact with.



Deaths are mainly among the very old, the institutionalized and those who are extremely sick.



But even among those patients, the pandemic is now only about one-third as deadly as it once was.



That's not to say we can write off our most vulnerable citizens. However, it means we maybe don't need to adopt drastic, society- wide and economy-wide measures if most of the people with new infections are younger and unlikely to get really sick.



Alberta's numbers, while higher than in June, are stable — in the mid-100s most days. And increases since June are consistent with the increased personal movement since lockdowns ended. Schools are open, more people are working in offices, some people are taking short vacations inside Alberta and most are no longer going out only once a week to shop for groceries.



Hospitalizations are stable, ICU admissions are low — and those are more significant numbers than the raw numbers of active cases.

[Anonymous]

Singapore is always very worried about it's low birth rate. Even in a pandemic.



Singapore will pay citizens to have a baby during the pandemic



Singapore will offer a one-time payment to aspiring parents during the coronavirus pandemic.



The country's deputy prime minister said the incentive would help reassure people who face financial pressure and are worried about their jobs.



"We have received feedback that COVID-19 has caused some aspiring parents to postpone their parenthood plans," Heng Swee Keat told lawmakers on Monday.



"This is fully understandable, especially when they face uncertainty with their income," he added.



Heng said the payment would help parents with expenses, but he did not confirm how much would be paid out.



Despite a largely successful public health response to the pandemic, Singapore's economy has been thrown into a deep recession.



GDP likely shrank 12.6% in the second quarter compared to the same time the previous year, marking "the steepest drop on record," according to economists.



Singapore has one of the lowest birth rates in the world, a statistic that successive governments have attempted unsuccessfully to reverse.



The fertility rate now stands at just 1.14 births per woman, according to its national statistics body.



That places it level with Hong Kong, according to the World Bank. Only South Korea and the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico have lower rates.



Singapore has struggled to reverse the trend since the 1980s, with public campaigns encouraging childbirth and a host of financial and tax incentives unable to stop its slump.



"Like many developed countries, Singapore's key population challenges are our low fertility and an ageing population," the government wrote in a 2011 report. "Our aim is to achieve a sustainable population that supports both economic growth and social cohesion, so that Singapore remains vibrant and liveable."

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[Anonymous]

When Biden says he will listen to "science", it seems he will be selective which science he will listen to.



Over 14,000 Health Experts Sign Petition Against COVID-19 Lockdowns



More than 14,000 scientists and medical practitioners have signed a petition against lockdown measures put in place to curb the spread of COVID-19, the disease caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, saying that they are causing "irreparable damage."



As of Oct. 8, more than 9,400 medical practitioners and 4,900 medical and public health scientists have joined more than 120,000 members of the general public in signing the petition, which was created on Oct. 4 and co-authored by Harvard professor of medicine Dr. Martin Kulldorff, Oxford professor Dr. Sunetra Gupta, and Stanford Medical School professor Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.



"As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection," reads the petition, which is titled the Great Barrington Declaration, after the Massachusetts town where it was signed.



The petition calls for an end to current lockdown policies, saying that they are producing "devastating effects" on short- and long-term public health.



Some of these devastating effects, the doctors wrote, include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings, and deteriorating mental health. They argue that this will, in the future, lead to greater excess mortality, with the working class and younger generation "carrying the heaviest burden."



"Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice," the petition continues. "Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed."



They instead insist on an approach that instead focuses on protecting the most vulnerable, while working toward achieving so-called herd immunity, which they describe as "Focused Protection."



"The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk," the doctors state.



"Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal," the petition adds.



Hygiene measures including staying at home when unwell and frequent hand washing can help achieve the goal of herd immunity, the petition states. Young "low-risk" adults meanwhile return to the office rather than working from home, it adds.



"Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport, and other cultural activities should resume," the doctors advise. "People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity."

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[Anonymous]

There is a growing body of doctors who oppose lock downs.

[Anonymous]

And a big part of the losses can be attributed to forced depression, ie lock downs.



'The $16 Trillion Virus': Economists Estimate Financial Toll of COVID-19 on US



Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers and fellow Harvard University economist David Cutler argued in an essay on Oct. 12 that the pandemic will end up costing the United States $16 trillion, around four times the toll exacted by the 2007–2009 Great Recession.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-16-trillion-virus-economists-estimate-financial-toll-of-covid-19-on-us_3537252.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-16-tr ... 2020-10-14">https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-16-trillion-virus-economists-estimate-financial-toll-of-covid-19-on-us_3537252.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-10-14

[Gaon]

France is imposing a second national lock down starting November 1. They recorded a record 523 deaths   yesterday. Germany will impose a one month partial lock down effective Monday. Germany recorded 14,000 new cases on Wednesday.

[Anonymous]

I read old Freud's state, Victoria is lifting the lock down.

[Anonymous]

I read old Freud's state, Victoria is lifting the lock down.

I just read that Melbourne was in lock down for one hundred and eleven days.

[Frood]

I read old Freud's state, Victoria is lifting the lock down.

Not really... Kim Jong Dan keeps reneging and walking back or halving his promises should the numbers become small... we have between 0-4 cases per day in a state of roughly 6 million and yet we still can't leave the metro area, we can travel 25k instead of 5k, and restaurants are now allowed to open with limited seating so the restaurants can run at a loss... thanks dickfaced Dan!



November 8th is the next relaxation of rules but I'm not holding my breath...this is going to go on for another year....flash lockdowns.



Just like France, Germany, the UK, et cetera... government is addicted to power.

[Anonymous]

I read old Freud's state, Victoria is lifting the lock down.

Not really... Kim Jong Dan keeps reneging and walking back or halving his promises should the numbers become small... we have between 0-4 cases per day in a state of roughly 6 million and yet we still can't leave the metro area, we can travel 25k instead of 5k, and restaurants are now allowed to open with limited seating so the restaurants can run at a loss... thanks dickfaced Dan!



November 8th is the next relaxation of rules but I'm not holding my breath...this is going to go on for another year....flash lockdowns.



Just like France, Germany, the UK, et cetera... government is addicted to power.

That's most of Canada and the US.

[Anonymous]

I read old Freud's state, Victoria is lifting the lock down.

Not really... Kim Jong Dan keeps reneging and walking back or halving his promises should the numbers become small... we have between 0-4 cases per day in a state of roughly 6 million and yet we still can't leave the metro area, we can travel 25k instead of 5k, and restaurants are now allowed to open with limited seating so the restaurants can run at a loss... thanks dickfaced Dan!



November 8th is the next relaxation of rules but I'm not holding my breath...this is going to go on for another year....flash lockdowns.



Just like France, Germany, the UK, et cetera... government is addicted to power.

That's most of Canada and the US.

Quebec and Ontario have new lock downs in a few cities I believe.

[Anonymous]

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced a second national lockdown for England in an attempt to stem the spread of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.



From Thursday, all non-essential shops and hospitality will have to close for a month, though schools, colleges, and universities will remain open, Johnson said at a press conference in Downing Street on Saturday evening.



The new national restrictions will come into effect on Thursday, lasting until the beginning of December.

[Anonymous]

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced a second national lockdown for England in an attempt to stem the spread of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.



From Thursday, all non-essential shops and hospitality will have to close for a month, though schools, colleges, and universities will remain open, Johnson said at a press conference in Downing Street on Saturday evening.



The new national restrictions will come into effect on Thursday, lasting until the beginning of December.

I hope there is no second lock down anywhere in Canada.

[Anonymous]

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced a second national lockdown for England in an attempt to stem the spread of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.



From Thursday, all non-essential shops and hospitality will have to close for a month, though schools, colleges, and universities will remain open, Johnson said at a press conference in Downing Street on Saturday evening.



The new national restrictions will come into effect on Thursday, lasting until the beginning of December.

I aint surprised.

[Frood]

Dark Winter...the Great Reset is coming...



The US might escape it if Trump wins again.