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Covid and lock downs in a nutshell

Started by Frood, September 06, 2020, 11:09:28 AM

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QuoteThis is why we have armies of anti vaxxers in North America


I disagree "this is why"  ... Conspiracists have conspiracy in their DNA & will always create ammo



Some of the stuff going  on .. or at least questions about it  does give them more ammo to apply



Still & separately, I'd like to see solid proof some of the purported cures are cures

I'm not discounting then, I just want scientific proof
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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I've done some serious searching for proven effective treatment ... without much success so far a currently used drugs goes



I find tests and theories  & experiments  for example - but no active proven treatments even though I searched with those words



All of credence that came up was as follows

https://www.timesofisrael.com/3-existing-drugs-fight-coronavirus-with-almost-100-success-in-jerusalem-lab/"> Times of Israel - 3 existing drugs fight coronavirus with 'almost 100%' success in Jerusalem lab



https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns">Guardian - Huge study supporting ivermectin as Covid treatment withdrawn over ethical concerns

This article is more than 2 months old

The preprint endorsing ivermectin as a coronavirus therapy has been widely cited, but independent researchers find glaring discrepancies in the data



I keep looking and hoping
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Yet, in countries in Asia and Europe they are offering various existing treatments that are preventing hospitals from overflowing.

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I'm not saying any particular drug does not help. I want them to



 I'd just like to see some science proving  they do ... something beyond "hearsay" .. and am having difficulty finding solid meaty proofs
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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Quote from: cc post_id=422258 time=1633293099 user_id=88
I'm not saying any particular drug does not help. I want them to



 I'd just like to see some science proving  they do ... something beyond "hearsay" .. and am having difficulty finding solid meaty proofs

Portugal for example has had success with seroids.

[media]https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/06/19/portugal-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic-steroids-treatment-pleitgen-pkg-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn">https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/0 ... dn-vpx.cnn">https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/06/19/portugal-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic-steroids-treatment-pleitgen-pkg-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn[/media]

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Yes, I've also heard steroids work - but cannot find solid proof after a week of trying



That's the problem - We need more than individual doctors speaking on videos, snippets  and hearsay for ALL treatments



For example as posted above, "ivermectin as a coronavirus therapy has been widely cited, but independent researchers find glaring discrepancies in the data"
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Odinson

Steroids cause testicle shrinkage.



So thats a no-no.

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Fash and I are not too concerned about that for our use of them  ac_smile
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=422261 time=1633293648 user_id=88
Yes, I've also heard steroids work - but cannot find solid proof after a week of trying



That's the problem - We need more than individual doctors speaking on videos, snippets  and hearsay for ALL treatments



For example as posted above, "ivermectin as a coronavirus therapy has been widely cited, but independent researchers find glaring discrepancies in the data"

Most of the data that we can Google comes from the States. Perhaps Google is the problem, perhaps it's the States itself.

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Quote from: cc post_id=422261 time=1633293648 user_id=88
Yes, I've also heard steroids work - but cannot find solid proof after a week of trying



That's the problem - We need more than individual doctors speaking on videos, snippets  and hearsay for ALL treatments



For example as posted above, "ivermectin as a coronavirus therapy has been widely cited, but independent researchers find glaring discrepancies in the data"

There is no one size fits all treatment. There are a number of antivirals that can be used. There is immune based therapy like convalescent plasma. There are steroids. There is dexamethasone. There is Ivermectin. There is Remdesivir. There is baricitinib (Olumiant).



My point is we don't have to fill up our miniscule number of ICU beds. Because our health care system in Canada is so dysfunctional we can't handle even a minor spike in people entering ICU, we must be using treaments, We have them, they're cheap, use them ffs.

Odinson

Quote from: cc post_id=422263 time=1633294175 user_id=88
Fash and I are not too concerned about that for our use of them  ac_smile


I´m sure your husbands and mates will be pleased with you two roid-headed chicks.

Odinson

What about the guys who have nordic genetics and dont need steroids?



All this is from mothers milk.





Natural protection.

Anonymous

Quote from: Odinson post_id=422285 time=1633302354 user_id=136
What about the guys who have nordic genetics and dont need steroids?



All this is from mothers milk.





Natural protection.

Sweden and Denmark have had success with Remdesivir.

Anonymous

Quote from: Odinson post_id=422262 time=1633294077 user_id=136
Steroids cause testicle shrinkage.



So thats a no-no.

Is that what happened to the VF incels.

Odinson

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Quote from: Odinson post_id=422285 time=1633302354 user_id=136
What about the guys who have nordic genetics and dont need steroids?



All this is from mothers milk.





Natural protection.

Sweden and Denmark have had success with Remdesivir.


I dont know what kind of treatments they are using.





When I have a sore throat, I usually take a Mynthon.



They sell Mynthons in Sweden and Denmark too.



https://img.karkkainen.com/images/e_trim/c_pad,f_auto,h_320,q_auto,w_260/v1/tuotekuvat/64025124/mynthon-zipmint-eucaminttu-30-g-pastilli.jpg">