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Covid and lock downs in a nutshell

Started by Frood, September 06, 2020, 11:09:28 AM

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The Massachusetts Department of Health announced this week that it would be tweaking its health tracking methodology after the approach led to a "significant overcount" in COVID-19 deaths in the state.



In a press release Thursday, the department acknowledged it would be retroactively removing 4,081 deaths from the state's overall count while adding 400 deaths, making the net change a decrease of roughly 3,700.



The overcount was reportedly the result of a faulty criterion for inclusions that logged deaths as resulting from COVID-19 if the individual had a confirmed positive test within a certain timeframe prior to their passing.



The State House News Service reported that under the old methodology, Massachusetts deemed a fatality COVID-related if it met at least one of three criteria:



A case investigation determined the virus "caused" or "contributed" to the death;

The death certificate listed COVID-19 or an "equivalent term" as the cause; or

The deceased individual had a COVID-19 diagnosis within 60 days of death.

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Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=442992 time=1646856700 user_id=2015
Manitoba is lifting masking requirements on Tuesday, March 15.

Today here.



Going to be interesting to see how it all goes over short & long hauls
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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Quote from: cc post_id=443262 time=1647016572 user_id=88
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=442992 time=1646856700 user_id=2015
Manitoba is lifting masking requirements on Tuesday, March 15.

Today here.



Going to be interesting to see how it all goes over short & long hauls

Short term, no shock to the system. Long term, unknown.

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Quote from: cc post_id=443262 time=1647016572 user_id=88
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=442992 time=1646856700 user_id=2015
Manitoba is lifting masking requirements on Tuesday, March 15.

Today here.



Going to be interesting to see how it all goes over short & long hauls

Short term, no shock to the system. Long term, unknown.

I'll be comparing numbers (especially including hospital) to see how recent trend fares
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Frood

Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

The city of Tokyo and twelve other prefectures in Japan are lifting all COVID restrictions and mandates.

Anonymous

China says they had a "record" 5000 cases yesterday. They are so full of it.

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Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=443729 time=1647455735 user_id=2015
China says they had a "record" 5000 cases yesterday. They are so full of it.

That's pathetic
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=443743 time=1647467781 user_id=88
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=443729 time=1647455735 user_id=2015
China says they had a "record" 5000 cases yesterday. They are so full of it.

That's pathetic

It's laughable.

Anonymous

Who knows how many cases China actually has.

Anonymous

Last year's dramatic spike in excess deaths—mortality not attributed to COVID-19—has appeared to wane. Between October and January, the number of such deaths decreased by more than half, according to death certificate data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).



In January, fewer than 7,500 Americans died in excess of the average for the same month in 2019 and 2018, before the COVID-19 pandemic, adjusted for the country's population change. About 5,000 of those deaths were attributed to COVID-19, leaving fewer than 2,500 to other causes.



By contrast, in September, there were over 14,000 such excess deaths, with fewer than 9,000 attributed to COVID.

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How many people died in USA from the flu in 2018?  (no measures)

https://www.google.com/search?q=number+of+deaths+in+Canada+from+flu+in+2018+-+2019%3F&ei=grJRYt7mKILU9APU8p2gAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjer-nQsYf3AhUCKn0KHVR5BxQQ4dUDCA4&oq=number+of+deaths+in+Canada+from+flu+in+2018+-+2019%3F&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAw6BwgAEEcQsANKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQjQtYmMoBYIDhAWgBcAF4AIABlQSIAewLkgEGMTguNS0xmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz">https://www.google.com/search?q=number+ ... nt=gws-wiz">https://www.google.com/search?q=number+of+deaths+in+Canada+from+flu+in+2018+-+2019%3F&ei=grJRYt7mKILU9APU8p2gAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjer-nQsYf3AhUCKn0KHVR5BxQQ4dUDCA4&oq=number+of+deaths+in+Canada+from+flu+in+2018+-+2019%3F&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAw6BwgAEEcQsANKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQjQtYmMoBYIDhAWgBcAF4AIABlQSIAewLkgEGMTguNS0xmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz

34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season (no public measures)



Covid for 2 years = 1,011,665 (despite many public measures to blunt) .. The annual number of flu deaths over the past month



Valid question  .. How many more deaths, more long covids & more ongoing injuries if no measures?





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Hmmmmm  :wink:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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Quote from: cc post_id=446271 time=1649523540 user_id=88
Not a meme - Not some mouth on the net  .. Not Made Up



How many people died in USA from the flu in 2018?  (no measures)

https://www.google.com/search?q=number+of+deaths+in+Canada+from+flu+in+2018+-+2019%3F&ei=grJRYt7mKILU9APU8p2gAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjer-nQsYf3AhUCKn0KHVR5BxQQ4dUDCA4&oq=number+of+deaths+in+Canada+from+flu+in+2018+-+2019%3F&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAw6BwgAEEcQsANKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQjQtYmMoBYIDhAWgBcAF4AIABlQSIAewLkgEGMTguNS0xmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz">https://www.google.com/search?q=number+ ... nt=gws-wiz">https://www.google.com/search?q=number+of+deaths+in+Canada+from+flu+in+2018+-+2019%3F&ei=grJRYt7mKILU9APU8p2gAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjer-nQsYf3AhUCKn0KHVR5BxQQ4dUDCA4&oq=number+of+deaths+in+Canada+from+flu+in+2018+-+2019%3F&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAw6BwgAEEcQsANKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQjQtYmMoBYIDhAWgBcAF4AIABlQSIAewLkgEGMTguNS0xmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz

34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season (no public measures)



Covid for 2 years = 1,011,665 (despite many public measures to blunt) .. The annual number of flu deaths over the past month



Valid question  .. How many deaths, long covids & ongoing injuries if no measures?



More Doug



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Hmmmmm  :wink:

Yes, hmmmm cc.